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Security Breach Grounds Planes At YVR

Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:53 am

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col.../2006/09/17/vancouver-airport.html

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All departing flights at Vancouver International Airport were put on hold for more than two hours Sunday morning after a security guard noticed what appeared to be a prohibited item on the screen of an X-ray machine.

Shouldn't this sort of thing be noticed and decided before the passenger is allowed to leave the security area and head off to his or her gate? So much for being so safe now. I suppose it's better than not doing a re-screening at all; but at the same time I think this whole security thing is a little overkill, and even then if someone really wants to blow up a plane, they're gunna.



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RE: Security Breach Grounds Planes At YVR

Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:00 pm

From my airport security experiences (working it) the ideal situation is to stop the bag a) inside the x-ray chamber and for the bag checker to catch it as the bag exits or b) to stop the x-ray belt soon enough that the bad doesn't reach the end of the cage so the pax can pick it up. But usually there are a**holes reaching up inside the cage to grab their bag because they are late to catch a plane or just impatient. This can result in confusion of which bag was it, and sometimes all the x-ray screener needs is a different view, but with the bag gone, you have to assume the worst and try and find something that may not even be what it is. On the flip side of that last part, sometimes looking at an object the first time it might seem like nothing, but if put through again at another angle or on its side, standing up what have you, there is a totally different view of the questionable object, which hopefully will be identified as a non threat. However if the screener still cannot tell a bag check is the next step. Hope it helps.
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RE: Security Breach Grounds Planes At YVR

Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:05 pm

i agree... its all for safety...
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RE: Security Breach Grounds Planes At YVR

Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:18 am

I see that our country is adopting the same paranoid way as our big Southern friend. Sad.

Quoting CVG2LGA (Reply 1):
But usually there are a**holes reaching up inside the cage to grab their bag because they are late to catch a plane or just impatient. This can result in confusion of which bag was it, and sometimes all the x-ray screener needs is a different view, but with the bag gone, you have to assume the worst and try and find something that may not even be what it is.

I find this behaviour really scary. Knowing one can be arrested for crime by saying the word "bomb" at a check point, I would not put my hands in the detector to attempt to fail the x-ray screening. I would be scared to be also arrested for crime. But people are insane sometimes!
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RE: Security Breach Grounds Planes At YVR

Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:49 am

Hey, after 9/11, I don't care if they have to shut down the airport bacause of security. The more they do this the less likely these dumbies will try anything again in this country.

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RE: Security Breach Grounds Planes At YVR

Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:38 pm

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 4):
don't care if they have to shut down the airport bacause of security

Agree.

Beside the GOOD LOOKING thing, I would suggest CSATA to seriously consider recruiting personnel that served in the military and just forget all together about those internship-programs, part-time, casual or summer jobs.
 
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RE: Security Breach Grounds Planes At YVR

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:27 am

I was on a WS 737 on my way to YUL when this happened. We all had to get off the airplane and go through security again. Most of the people were alright with it, but a few were getting pretty upset as if they were the only ones inconvenienced.

I agree, I don't care if they have to shut down the whole airport because of security. Better safe than sorry.
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RE: Security Breach Grounds Planes At YVR

Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:59 am

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 4):
Hey, after 9/11, I don't care if they have to shut down the airport bacause of security. The more they do this the less likely these dumbies will try anything again in this country.

Your attitude brings tears of joy to terrorists. They don't have to do anything and massive disruption is generated.
 
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RE: Security Breach Grounds Planes At YVR

Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:24 am

i heard BA flight 86 (not 100% SURE about number) to LHR was delayed for almost a day cause of this... maybe that flight had to do something with the scare.

[Edited 2006-09-20 23:27:02]

[Edited 2006-09-20 23:34:28]
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RE: Security Breach Grounds Planes At YVR

Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:35 am

Not that this is really pertinent, but when going through security i always place my spotting scope on top of my bag so security screeners can see it before it goes through, can see it as it goes through and can see it as it comes out. Even had security in Sydney, Australia try it out! I've never had a problem with that scope ever since i placed it outside my bag at security.

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Ps.....screeners at MAN ALWAYS know exactly what it is and never bat an eyelid! I guess they're used to us MAN spotters!
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