YYZSaabGuy
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Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:50 pm

From the CBC website:

Last Updated: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 | 7:11 AM ET
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An Air India flight was ordered to return to Toronto's Pearson International Airport Monday night after a suspicious package was found on board, say reports.

The flight, which was believed to be heading for Birmingham, England, left Toronto around 10:30 p.m. ET.

About an hour later, the pilot reported that he wanted to return to Toronto.

The plane was evacuated and has been parked away from the airport's three terminals while its luggage and cargo are being inspected.

The passengers have been taken to a nearby hotel and are being interviewed by police, who have launched an investigation.

Police are expected to release more information Tuesday.
 
Gr8Circle
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:31 pm

Quoting YYZSaabGuy (Thread starter):
The flight, which was believed to be heading for Birmingham, England

Why do respectable news sites like CBC use such language....? A simple lookup of the AI timetable or flight schedules would have informed them that the flight WAS heading for Birmingham, England......where was the doubt...?
 
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:34 pm



Quote:

This article says that the package was detonated by the bomb disposal squad.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...18/20060919?hub=TopStories&s_name=

An Air India Flight was turned back to Toronto's Pearson International airport Monday night after a suspicious package was found on board.

Peel Regional Police confirmed the Air India flight 188 was turned back around an hour after take-off from Toronto.

Const. Pete Brandwood, of Peel Regional Police, said Tuesday that the suspicious package had been detonated by bomb disposal experts in Toronto.

"There's nothing to suggest the contents of the package were suspicious," Brandwood told reporters, adding that it was going to take investigators "some time" to find out exactly what the package contained.

Brandwood said the pilot and crew on board the plane were alerted to the package by a passenger who discovered it in the bathroom.

The flight took off at around 9:30 p.m. ET Monday night en route to Delhi, India, with a planned stop over in Birmingham, England.

After being diverted back to Pearson, around 140 passengers were taken off the plane at around 11 p.m. ET and taken to a hotel.
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:34 pm

I heard a passenger on the radio this morning, from YYZ, who had been on this flight..

Some details:

- Passengers were informed of the security issue, either during the return to YYZ, or after they had arrived.

- Passengers have been routinely fed and given drinks.

- They have had their passports taken from them and have not had them returned yet.

- No information has been given to the passengers as to when they will be departing.

This flight will likely be delayed either until later today ,or tomorrow. I'd suspect that the delays will continue further down the line this week for Air India, as the crew has likely gone over their max allotted hours, meaning they will have to wait for another crew, likely. (Unless there is one in Toronto already).

Quite a nightmare for Air India, but apparently nothing out of the ordinary, apart from the fact that there was a suspicious package in the galley.

Air India is routinely late.

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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:49 pm

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 1):

Why do respectable news sites like CBC use such language....? A simple lookup of the AI timetable or flight schedules would have informed them that the flight WAS heading for Birmingham, England......where was the doubt...?

Timetables and even websites are subject to change. A news organization should treat them as a statement of intent, not the definitive word. Good news that there was no bomb.
 
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:57 pm

In these times, and with the past history of terror attacks on Air India from Canada, (one that went down off the coast of Ireland killing all on board) they made the right decision. I do hope they find the package was not a bomb. Perhaps we need to remind people better to make sure to take everything with them off the a/c or if they visit the lav.
 
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:06 am

Quoting Lnglive1011yyz (Reply 3):
Quite a nightmare for Air India, but apparently nothing out of the ordinary, apart from the fact that there was a suspicious package in the galley.

Air India is routinely late.

Quite an irrelevant remark, I think....being late in this case was necessary, given the circumstances....
 
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:09 am

Quoting Sebring (Reply 4):
Timetables and even websites are subject to change. A news organization should treat them as a statement of intent, not the definitive word. Good news that there was no bomb.

Not a very important issue really....all I was saying is that the destination of the flight is something that could have been easily ascertained by calling the airline or some airport official......using the words "The flight, which was believed to be heading for Birmingham" makes it sound as though there was something dubious about the flights destination.....maybe it's just me....
 
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:13 am

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 7):
Not a very important issue really....all I was saying is that the destination of the flight is something that could have been easily ascertained by calling the airline or some airport official......using the words "The flight, which was believed to be heading for Birmingham" makes it sound as though there was something dubious about the flights destination.....maybe it's just me....

Sure, call Air India's Toronto office at 2 a.m.
 
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:21 am

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 6):
Quite an irrelevant remark, I think....being late in this case was necessary, given the circumstances....

Actually, my comment *wasn't* irrelevant.. it is you who took it out of context..

Air India is routinely late at YYZ. No one can deny that.

I was merely informing the rest of A.net who may NOT be privy to that information, as it is with regards to Air India's service in YYZ.

Again, the flight was delayed due to a suspicious package, and RIGHTFULLY so.

However, if most YYZ'ers had been AT YYZ, none of us would have thought anything out of the ordinary, as it's quite normal to see AI rest over-night in YYZ.

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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:06 am

Quoting Lnglive1011yyz (Reply 9):
Actually, my comment *wasn't* irrelevant.. it is you who took it out of context..

Air India is routinely late at YYZ. No one can deny that.



Quoting Lnglive1011yyz (Reply 9):
However, if most YYZ'ers had been AT YYZ, none of us would have thought anything out of the ordinary, as it's quite normal to see AI rest over-night in YYZ.

Which brings me back to my original point....that your comment is irrelevant to this thread..... smile 
 
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:53 am

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 7):
Quoting Sebring (Reply 4):
Timetables and even websites are subject to change. A news organization should treat them as a statement of intent, not the definitive word. Good news that there was no bomb.

Not a very important issue really....all I was saying is that the destination of the flight is something that could have been easily ascertained by calling the airline or some airport official......using the words "The flight, which was believed to be heading for Birmingham" makes it sound as though there was something dubious about the flights destination.....maybe it's just me....

Hey, it could be worse. It doesn't refer to an Air India airbus 340, heading for Santiago Chile, accompanied by a picture of a 732 in AirCal livery, and they don't interview any passengers about their "near death experience".

"Believed to be heading to Birmingham" is not bad at all.
 
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:30 am

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 11):
Hey, it could be worse. It doesn't refer to an Air India airbus 340, heading for Santiago Chile, accompanied by a picture of a 732 in AirCal livery, and they don't interview any passengers about their "near death experience".

Good one Big grin
 
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:36 am

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2007854.cms

Quote:Broken pipe in loo grounds AI plane

NEW DELHI: The Maharaja of Indian skies seems to have the knack of flirting with security lapses.

After ending up with egg on its face in the case of pilferage on-board PM's flight, Air India is now staring at another potential security lapse with a passenger on its Toronto-India flight discovering a broken piece of pipe inside a "sanitised" aircraft toilet.

The incident occurred on AI-188, which was headed for Delhi via Amritsar, on Monday night. According to sources, the aircraft with 164 passengers on board, took off on time from Toronto.

After an hour of being air-borne, a passenger discovered a broken pipe inside the toilet and brought it back to the cabin to show it to the crew.

"The pilot was immediately alerted about the incident, who, in turn, checked with the ground staff and decided to return to Toronto as a safety measure." The incident once again highlighted the terror scare in the skies and Air India's security holes.

There have been instances when aircraft toilets have been used to assemble bombs. In 1994, a nitroglycerine bomb was assembled in the toilet of a Philippine Airline flight.

The terrorist disembarked, leaving the bomb to explode. An AI spokesman said the incident was being probed.

"Nothing amiss was found during the check but we have no clue how the broken pipe ended up inside," he said. Bomb disposal squad was deployed to examine the aircraft interiors, a source said.


[Edited 2006-09-20 04:38:55]

[Edited 2006-09-20 04:39:33]
 
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:28 pm

Quoting Feroze (Reply 13):
Quote:Broken pipe in loo grounds AI plane

This is a joke, I assume...?  Confused
 
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:13 pm

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 14):
Quoting Feroze (Reply 13):
Quote:Broken pipe in loo grounds AI plane

This is a joke, I assume...?

I just quoted the TOI article:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2007854.cms
 
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RE: Package Prompts Return Of Air India Flight

Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:41 pm

Quoting Feroze (Reply 15):

The Mystery is where did the pipe come from.
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