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Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:31 am

http://blogs.usatoday.com/sky/2006/09/spirit_cuts_car.html

"Low-cost carrier Spirit Airlines ended its service to the Turks and Caicos on Sept. 3, Travel Weekly (free registration) reports. The airline first started flying to the Caribbean destination from its Fort Lauderdale hub in February ..."
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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:08 am

Quoting FA4B6 (Thread starter):
Spirit Airlines ended its service to the Turks and Caicos on Sept

What about Grand Turks service?
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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:10 am

If it's not working...fix it or dump it. Glad to see NK isn't overflowing with testosterone on this one.
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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:11 am

Quoting Belizexp (Reply 1):
What about Grand Turks service?

It was a tag-on with the PLS service, so no GDT either.

Boy, we kept this so quiet, I didn't even know it until now!! Oh well, if it doesnt work, dump it!!!
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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:17 am

Quoting Nkops (Reply 3):
Oh well, if it doesnt work, dump it!!!

Great words. Flying profitable routes seem to always help the bottom line.  Smile Needless to say, NK still has a great Caribbean operation out of FLL.

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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:23 am

Turks is a very small market that unless you have a large route map in which to fill your flights I can see why it has been dropped. Surprised not to see it go as a seasonal destination though?
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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:11 am

I am surprised this did not work for NK.

There is a lot of shopper traffic between T&C and S. Florida... Shoppers who normally bring back tons of excess luggage.

Several regular AA passengers from GDT had left AA MIA-PLS in favor of NK direct flights to GDT. I have been asked many times when Eagle was going to begin the MIA-GDT route so they could come back for their miles.

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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:22 am

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 6):
I have been asked many times when Eagle was going to begin the MIA-GDT route so they could come back for their miles.

It's been looked at closely lately, AFAIK, along with MIA-CYB.
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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:12 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
It's been looked at closely lately, AFAIK, along with MIA-CYB.

So do you think NK pulling out will help the chances of AA starting the MIA-GDT route or remove the urgency?

It looks like MIA-PLS will be 2X 757 instead of 3X 737 going forward.

Do you know how NK is doing on FLL-PUJ? AA beefed up MIA-PUJ when they started that route.

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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:52 am

Spirit is doing good FLL-PUJ. For the low season they kept 5 daily flights a week while other carriers are flying twice a week. They will be flying around for a while in PUJ.
 
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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:15 am

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 2):
Glad to see NK isn't overflowing with testosterone on this one.

They've got a few other "testosterone" fueled route choices still like ATL-LAS. This is another route they should rethink as they will be hosed on it by DL, FL, and US (HP). I thought they were flying or wanted to fly ATL-MCO but I can't seem to substatiate that, anyone know?
 
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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:36 am

Kind of surprising given the growth of the T&C.

Any word on whether they are going to expand the PLS airport? I was there in July and it was the most crowded I have ever been in an airport waiting to depart. Also, it took forever to get through immagration going in.

The airport was the only thing I did not like about the T&C.
 
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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:51 am

Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 10):
I thought they were flying or wanted to fly ATL-MCO

They will be doing ATL-MCO and ATL-TPA seasonally starting in Nov. We'll see how it goes!!
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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:13 am

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 8):

So do you think NK pulling out will help the chances of AA starting the MIA-GDT route or remove the urgency?

It depends, I don't know how they did on the GDT sector, but lack of feed probably killed it. I think AA is better suited for the market with more feed and a more appropriate aircraft.

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 8):
It looks like MIA-PLS will be 2X 757 instead of 3X 737 going forward.

AA has gone back and forth with this all the time, between 2x 757 and 3x 738, for the past six years. It will go back to 3x 738 when the aircraft are available, but with 19 757s going away, and other schedule changes, they can't do 3x right now. MIA-PLS has one of the highest CASMs in AA's entire route network.

Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 10):

They've got a few other "testosterone" fueled route choices still like ATL-LAS. This is another route they should rethink as they will be hosed on it by DL, FL, and US (HP).

ATL-LAS should do well because it originates/terminates in FLL with same plane service. Though the time will come when the flight will simply become FLL-LAS.
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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:40 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
MIA-PLS has one of the highest CASMs in AA's entire route network.

Why? Because of the short stage length?

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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:24 am

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 14):
Why? Because of the short stage length?

Sorry, I didn't mean CASM. I meant the fare to stage length ratio. The route is very short, but the average fare is a $360+ round-trip. PLS prints money as quick as KIN and PAP.
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RE: Spirit To End Turks & Caicos Service

Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:22 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
Sorry, I didn't mean CASM. I meant the fare to stage length ratio. The route is very short, but the average fare is a $360+ round-trip. PLS prints money as quick as KIN and PAP.

Ah OK... and when you figure in the excess baggage charges that almost everyone ends up paying it is even better. Those coolers full of food are heavy!

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