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DTW 2008

Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:24 pm

Once the new North Terminal is opened (October 2008), DTW will basically be a completely new airport from the passengers point of view. The only old facility to be retained will be the "Big Blue" parking deck, which in itself is not that old.

Well, we won't have the architecture of Denver, but we will have the newest major facility in the country.

So folks, you have exactly two years to whine about the Smith & Berry Terminals, then afterwards only praise will be allowed.


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RE: DTW 2008

Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:48 pm

yup.....and nothings changed in like... a while
 
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RE: DTW 2008

Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:26 am

I have never been in the Berry Terminal. What is it like? Was it always used for charters only?

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
The only old facility to be retained will be the "Big Blue" parking deck, which in itself is not that old.

There still will be that cool old executive terminal, which I believe was the first terminal at DTW.
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RE: DTW 2008

Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:42 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
Well, we won't have the architecture of Denver, but we will have the newest major facility in the country.

I have been on the Metro website and - in fact, it will be magnificent in its own way!

From the look of it though, security will be split between two areas - one on each end of the terminal. This in an age of common security checkpoints!

Still, the plans look great!
 
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RE: DTW 2008

Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:18 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 2):
I have never been in the Berry Terminal

The Berry Terminal is a Sewer. It was a sewer when it opened, and it's worse now.

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 2):
Was it always used for charters only?

It was built as the "international terminal" and was used by Pan Am, BA as well as the short lived sevice by Sabena.

Charter airlines also used the terminal, and when NW started its hub ops they had a large arrival operation there.
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RE: DTW 2008

Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:24 am

I remember hearing how Detroit Airport was horrible, and how it ranked at the bottom of the list for best airports in the USA... Now, it's about to become one of the best ones, kinda like when they opened PIT in 1992, only this one will have technoligical advancements and design from 20 years later!! (I just hope it will not become an underused facility in the future, and that NW/KL maintain the large hub they have there now...)  pray  crossfingers 
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RE: DTW 2008

Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:48 pm

Glad to see the old Davey, Smith & Berry terminals gone. Sewer was a kind assessment.

The only thing good was the international departure satellite. You could see the 747s and DC-10s land and take off (took some great photos there. Worst was the moving sidewalks. If you lean too far over on them and don't pay attention, you can hit your head on the support beams.*

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Does the North terminal have its own Customs and Immigration facility or will BA fly into the McNamara then move to the North Terminal?

*(In 1996 my flight to CDG was delayed for 3 hours. I went for a walk and while leaning over the railing on the moving sidewalk, knocked myself out on a support beam. Got a good laugh out of my friend and a security guard. Hated DTW till the new terminal opened.)
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:24 am

The new North Terminal will have several "swing gates" to accommodate both domestic and international operations, depending upon demand. There will be an in-house FIS on the lower level of the building.

RJ, BA, LH, and any international operations (Caribbean) with NK, USA3000, and others currently using the Berry Terminal will utilize these gates in the new facility.

The Berry Terminal may be used for a short while after the North Terminal opens, but it will eventually need to be demolished to allow build out of the gates on the east side of the north arm.

It's exciting to watch the progress from my office window. It's not a prime view, but a view nonetheless. Will be great to see the facility continue to rise out of the ground over the next year. Much of '08 will be spent on interior finishes and testing of systems prior to tenant move-in, but the structure should be fully enclosed by the end of '07.

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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:32 am

Quoting Centrair (Reply 6):
Does the North terminal have its own Customs and Immigration facility or will BA fly into the McNamara then move to the North Terminal?

Yes, it will have a separate customs and immigration facility.
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:38 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 4):
It was built as the "international terminal" and was used by Pan Am, BA as well as the short lived sevice by Sabena.

When was it built? Oddly enough the Davey terminal is listed in a book I have about important architectural landmarks around Detroit.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 4):
when NW started its hub ops they had a large arrival operation there.

When did NW start operating DTW as a hub? Was it when they merged with Republic?
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:44 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 4):
Quoting Falstaff (Reply 2):
I have never been in the Berry Terminal

The Berry Terminal is a Sewer. It was a sewer when it opened, and it's worse now.

Yup but it sure has a nostalgic feel to the place eh ?? hahaha
 
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:48 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 9):
When was it built? Oddly enough the Davey terminal is listed in a book I have about important architectural landmarks around Detroit.

1966 Terminal 2 (North Terminal) was constructed

When it was opened in '66 it was a remarkable building, but I guess it was not salvagable in 2006!

1974: The Michael Berry International Terminal was completed as part of a $69 million bond issue. Also included were improved lighting and taxiways, expansion of the L.C. Smith Terminal, Terminal 2 and new parking.

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 9):
When did NW start operating DTW as a hub? Was it when they merged with Republic?

1986: Northwest Airlines and Republic Airlines merged creating an even larger hub at Detroit Metro.


1987: Northwest Airlines initiated scheduled non-stop service to Tokyo in April.

1988 In October, Northwest Airlines initiated scheduled non-stop service to Seoul .


1989: Northwest Airlines initiated scheduled non-stop service to Paris and Frankfurt on June 1 st.
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:49 am

Quoting BHXDTW (Reply 10):
Yup but it sure has a nostalgic feel to the place

Ha ha ha! I can't wait to hear "oh how I miss the old terminal"!
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:51 am

Quoting BHXDTW (Reply 10):
Yup but it sure has a nostalgic feel to the place eh

I would agree. I have only been in there a few times. I moved to near DTW in 2000 and would fly DTW-STL on TWA, but once TWA was bought out I stopped going in there. I wouldn't mind seeing it again before it goes away. I would like to go to the Executive terminal, that place looks cool!
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:48 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 11):
1974: The Michael Berry International Terminal was completed as part of a $69 million bond issue.

I was at DTW tonight, at the post office. I stopped in the Berry Terminal to use the men's room. I walked around in there for a while. I was in there for about 15 minutes and the only other person I saw was a cab driver who went in to use the can too. It was kind of weird being in an airport terminal and not seeing anyone. I will have to go back and get some photos.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 4):
The Berry Terminal is a Sewer. It was a sewer when it opened, and it's worse now.

I didn't think it was that bad. It was old, but not that nasty or dirty. I have seen worse, but also seen much better. I thought it was better than the old PIT. It screamed 1974. I was waiting for Joe Petroni to come out and say hello. ha ha! Everything was old. You could see some of the doors used to be painted orange, the paint was rubbed off around the handles. That luggage carousel was cool looking. It would be good place to film a retro 70s airport scene for a TV show or movie. Maybe one day when the bar is open I will go in and have a beer, just to say that I did.
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:50 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 14):
didn't think it was that bad. It was old, but not that nasty or dirty. I have seen worse, but also seen much better. I thought it was better than the old PIT. It screamed 1974. I was waiting for Joe Petroni to come out and say hello. ha ha! Everything was old. You could see some of the doors used to be painted orange, the paint was rubbed off around the handles. That luggage carousel was cool looking. It would be good place to film a retro 70s airport scene for a TV show or movie. Maybe one day when the bar is open I will go in and have a beer, just to say that I did.

The upstairs departure area and customs area are dogs!
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:57 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 15):
The upstairs departure area and customs area are dogs!

I went upstairs and that looked a big rugged, very dated. I thought of L1011s, 707s, and 747-100s. Where is the customs area? Is that near the baggage claim? From the to of the stairs you can see a cheaply added on area with white walls over by the baggage claim.
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:59 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 16):
Is that near the baggage claim? From the to of the stairs you can see a cheaply added on area with white walls over by the baggage claim.

it is behind and to the south of the "domestic bag belt".
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:33 pm

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 14):
I thought it was better than the old PIT.

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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:50 pm

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 18):
1950s???

Not that long ago. I was refering to the airport before the one they have now. Went there a lot in the years just before they built the new terminal and it was a bit rough. I never saw the entire airport either just the parts where TWA was.
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:39 pm

Actually, I gotta say that I do love DTW.. Everything about it (apart from Mcnamara) screams L1011 / DC-8 / 747-100 / 727 / 737-100/200 .. As was mentioned before.
I think even the big blow up tyre on the side of the freeway on the way to the airport even makes the atmosphere...hahahaha
 
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:48 pm

Quoting BHXDTW (Reply 20):
I think even the big blow up tyre on the side of the freeway on the way to the airport even makes the atmosphere...hahahaha

That"s not a blow up tire. It was a ferris wheel at the 1964 New York worlds fair. It was relocated to its current site in 1965.
 
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:55 pm

Quoting Dtw9 (Reply 21):
That"s not a blow up tire. It was a ferris wheel at the 1964 New York worlds fair. It was relocated to its current site in 1965.

Ah, the Big Tire! Only in Detroit!

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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:10 pm

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 22):
Ah, the Big Tire! Only in Detroit!

I"ve always thought they should have moved the BIG Stove over there with it. BTW Dtwclipper, I see from another post that we're almost neighbors. Think Mexican food on Novi road. I live over the tracks from it.
 
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RE: DTW 2008

Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:47 pm

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 22):
Ah, the Big Tire! Only in Detroit!

I live very close to the big tire. It no longer has the nail in it. I think they should have left it original with the white wall and hub cap, which are still there, but the white wall is painted over and the stylized wheel is built up over the hub cap.
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RE: DTW 2008

Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:37 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 19):
I was refering to the airport before the one they have now. Went there a lot in the years just before they built the new terminal and it was a bit rough.

Right, but I was referring to PIT, as it opened in 1952. But still... Could you imagine what PIT and DTW would be like if they weren't replaced?

PIT... another PHL
DTW... uhhhh... not sure what
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:12 am

I love Pittsburgh. My entire family is from there. We lived in St. Louis in the 1990s and mom and dad still live in St. Louis. Give me a cold Iron City (which I can now buy in Detroit) and some Beto's pizza and I am happy! I travel to Pittsburgh a few times a year and always have a blast! Dad is from Mt. Washington and mom is from Cheswick, out on Rt. 28. My Aunt and Uncle used to live in New Kennsington and now they live near Ford City. Another uncle lives in Pittsburgh, off of Saw Mill Run rd. That is where I usually stay when I go to the city.
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RE: DTW 2008

Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:36 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 26):
Another uncle lives in Pittsburgh, off of Saw Mill Run rd.

Where at? I know right where that might be. Saw Mill Run Blvd is OverBrook/Sahthills (aka. south hills), and I am a native of the south hills, just curious man. Happy you like dahntahn!!!

Ehhh... DTW is only brand new what, for like a few years.... PIT's been around for 14, well the new one anyway. I guess it's a little to early to say what the old terminal would look like years later if still in operation...
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RE: DTW 2008

Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:11 pm

I havnt been to DTW since Nov of 05 and at the time Davey was still standing for the most part and the hotel was still there, its gonna be weird to see most of that stuff gone,

but as usual I'm looking foward to my mile walk from the WN gates down to baggage
 
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RE: DTW 2008

Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:03 pm

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 27):
Where at? I know right where that might be.

South Hills Counrty Club.
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