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Questions Re DH Comets In The Americas

Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:31 am

I recently learned that Aerolineas Argentinas was a fairly major Comet 4 operator - I already knew about Mexicanas' Comets and CP's cancelled order: did any other airlines in the Americas/W. Hemisphere operate Comets?
Also, who had a bigger fleet, MX or AR?
Who got theirs first?
Who kept them longest?
What routes did MX and AR use them on?

Any input is appreciated!

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RE: Questions Re DH Comets In The Americas

Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:50 am

None as far as I know.
Capitol, a big Vickers Viscount customer, ordered 14 Comet 4's in the late 50's, but after financial issues and eventual merger with I think UA, the order was cancelled before anything came down the production line.
 
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RE: Questions Re DH Comets In The Americas

Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:48 am

AR started transatlantic Comet flights in July? 1959, so they were the third transatlantic jet flyer after BOAC and PA.
 
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RE: Questions Re DH Comets In The Americas

Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:58 am

An additional airline...

There was one Comet 4 (C/n 628, HC ALT) on the Ecuadorian register - operated by AREA.
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The a/c was purchased in March 66 from BOAC, before being WFU @ Miami in March 68. It was finally broken up some 10+ years later.

The RCAF also operated a couple of Comet1, one of which made it into non commercial ownership.
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AR operated Comets first with LV PLM (c/n 6418) delivered in early 1959. Half a dozen aircraft were delivered within a couple of years, and a further one in 1962. Three aircraft were written off between August 59 and November 61.

MX operated Comets purchased new (delivered from 1960) and also some purchased secondhand from BOAC.AFAIK, no MX aircraft were written off.

Both airlines had sold their Comet fleets by the end of 1971

If we're discussing Comets in the Americas, there were of course a number of other aircraft registered in USA too.
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RE: Questions Re DH Comets In The Americas

Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:20 am

In 1964 Mexicana had Comets LAX-MZT-GDL-MEX, LAX-MEX, ORD-MEX and a weekly MEX-MID-MBJ-KIN.
 
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RE: Questions Re DH Comets In The Americas

Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:42 am

AR flew comets JFK to EZE via stops in POS and GIG, then switched to B707.
 
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RE: Questions Re DH Comets In The Americas

Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:45 am

MX was the launch customer of the DH Comet 4C in 1960. This was discussed a while ago in: MX Launch Customer Of DH Comet 4C (by Adriaticus Jul 18 2004 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: Questions Re DH Comets In The Americas

Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:23 am

Thanks for the input guys, my search didn't turn up that earlier (and informative) thread.

Did MX do any transatlantic or deep S. American routes back then, or was that strictly AM?
 
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RE: Questions Re DH Comets In The Americas

Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:35 am

Another possibility is Guest Aerovias Mexico, which claimed to schedule a Comet MEX to Paris via Miami in 1961. But no mention of it in the books I've seen so far.

Don't think Mexicana or Aeronaves flew transatlantic in the 1960s.
 
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RE: Questions Re DH Comets In The Americas

Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:44 am

At one time, AM flew DC-8 MEX-MIA-MAD, then extended it to ORY
 
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RE: Questions Re DH Comets In The Americas

Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:07 am

You're right -- Aeronaves did fly to Madrid (at least) in the 60s.

Quoting Smokescreen (Reply 7):
Did MX do any transatlantic or deep S. American routes back then

MX didn't even fly to Guatemala until the late 1960s, and they didn't fly south of there-- in that era anyway.

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