tommy767
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Former AA EWR 767s Routes

Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:20 am

In 2004 AA was flying 767s (-200 and -300) to LAX, and SJU from EWR. Now all EWR sees is 757 flying (it could be worse.) I was wondering why AA was flying 763s between the two cities less than 2 years ago, and now all they can pull in are 757s? Could it be low-seasonal swaps?
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RE: Former AA EWR 767s Routes

Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:26 am

Quoting Tommy767 (Thread starter):
Could it be low-seasonal swaps?

No, it is what you have seen in many other markets. They are reducing the seat capacity. They are getting rid of the excess capacity that they probably never filled completely and could have always used a downgrade, but they didn't because they weren't pressured. AA also used to have an EWR-London (I believe LHR, but not sure) flight on a 767.
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RE: Former AA EWR 767s Routes

Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:32 am

Quoting COewrAAtysAZ (Reply 1):
AA also used to have an EWR-London (I believe LHR, but not sure) flight on a 767.

yes just like they used to have an EWR-LHR flt...only with the A300. They would rather dump their resources into where they have the most business...JFK. So EWR....doesn't see as much capacity as it once did. I can't remember if the EWR-LHR flt stopped just after 9-11-01 or a while after...anyone?
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RE: Former AA EWR 767s Routes

Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:54 am

Yes, it stopped after 9/11. I am positive that was a 767, or at least I remember it as a 767. I do remember the A300 on the SJU route, though.
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RE: Former AA EWR 767s Routes

Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:07 am

definetly SJU...I've flown the A300 EWR-JFK though...maybe it changed near the end though...or in the last year or so.
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RE: Former AA EWR 767s Routes

Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:33 am

Quoting Tommy767 (Thread starter):
I was wondering why AA was flying 763s between the two cities less than 2 years ago, and now all they can pull in are 757s? Could it be low-seasonal swaps?

AA is trying to reduce the number of aircraft types its stations see. Examples: ORD no longer gets 737s. MIA no longer gest MD80s. BOS no longer gets A300s. And on and on. In addition, AA was trying to pull capacity out of the transcons around 2003-2004 when the yields on these flights were really in the tanks due to JetBlue, Delta/Song, and the failed America West transcon experiments out of JFK and BOS.

Quoting Mjlhou (Reply 2):
yes just like they used to have an EWR-LHR flt...only with the A300.

The EWR-LHR route also got 767-300s for a while. The plane was an A300 for years, switched to a 767-300 around 2001-2002, and then ended up as a 777 for only a few months before it was axed in 2003.
 
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RE: Former AA EWR 767s Routes

Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:57 am

Continental just dominates EWR. The other airlines like United and American have just given up because they cannot compete. In the cuthroat industry, the airlines invest resources where they are most profitable. Legacy routes are being cut by increasingly savvy management teams.

Quoting Mjlhou (Reply 4):
...I've flown the A300 EWR-JFK though

I'm guessing that this is a typo.
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RE: Former AA EWR 767s Routes

Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:15 am

There are actually 12-14 more seats on AAs 757s than AAs 762s. They actually deployed the 762 elswhere where they new they could sell the F and C products.
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RE: Former AA EWR 767s Routes

Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:31 am

In the '80s and early '90s EWR had trans-con widebodies from AA, CO, DL and UAL.

CO flew A300s twice daily to SFO, three daily to LAX and once daily to SEA.

AA flew 3 daily DC-10-10s to LAX

UAL flew a combination of DC-10s, DC-8s/757s, and 747-200s to LAX, SFO. And briefly in the mid-late '90s UAL was flying nonstop from EWR to SAN and SEA.

DL flew twice daily 767-200s from EWR-LAX
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RE: Former AA EWR 767s Routes

Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:51 pm

From time to time, EWR does see an equipment substitution and a 757 becomes a 763 on the LAX and MIA runs.
 
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RE: Former AA EWR 767s Routes

Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:42 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 6):
Continental just dominates EWR. The other airlines like United and American have just given up because they cannot compete.

When you compare the flights that you used to see by them now, yes. But AA still operates a thick schedule into EWR.
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