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Mergers - A Spotters Nightmare

Sat Jul 01, 2000 3:34 pm

If the mergers are continued there will be very boring
to watch and take photos of acft.
Your log would look like this (for USA):
United, United, American, United, American, United,
United, American, American,United,American, American, I can't believe it is United again, no not United again, American....

mergers destroy diversity on your airport
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RE: Mergers - A Spotters Nightmare

Sat Jul 01, 2000 8:00 pm

I concur but we are helpless to do anything about it. What started out as a relatively inexpensive hobby has become very costly as one must now travel great distances to see something new.

Oh well, makes the thrill of seeing something new a your home airport all the more exciting.

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RE: Mergers - A Spotters Nightmare

Sat Jul 01, 2000 11:30 pm

I agreed.....hmmm, should we do a campaign letters to DOJ and DOT telling them we're against the merge among the top 8 airlines?

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RE: Mergers - A Spotters Nightmare

Sat Jul 01, 2000 11:49 pm

There are still some airlines which prefer to remain independent. For example, jetBlue in the East and Allegiant and Southwest in the West.

In regard to Dave's post, I doubt that petitioning to the DOT would do any good. Arent mergers primarily just corporate and not regulated by the gov't?  

Also, if AA and UA dominate the airways by taking everyone over, then could the small airlines call it monopolisation and take it to court?

I do agree that spotting would become extremely boring.

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RE: Mergers - A Spotters Nightmare

Tue Jul 04, 2000 5:35 am

Slow down everyone. It will take quite a bit of cooperation and salemanship from airline employees, state governments and many others before these potential mergers are approved by the DOJ and we see an American 747 or United A330. Although possible, the paint shops aren't cleaning their brushes just yet.
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RE: Mergers - A Spotters Nightmare

Tue Jul 04, 2000 6:38 am

There's always hope. Don't forget the international airlines serving many major US cities. Besides, I don't think we will see four major carriers and no smaller ones any time soon. At least I hope not.

As for boring spotting...imagine the Soviet Union...Aeroflot, Aeroflot, Aeroflot, Aeroflot, Aeroflot, Aeroflot, Aeroflot...


RE: Mergers - A Spotters Nightmare

Tue Jul 04, 2000 6:57 am

Just like spotting becomes boring, imagine the quality of service! Imagine that -- all flight attendants wear the same uniforms, belong to the same one union, and just like postal workers one day start turning discrental.

United buys US Airways
American merges with Northwest
United buys TWA and scraps it
American buys Delta
United buys Southwest
American buys Midway
United buys JetBlue
American and United merge...

Imagine that you stand in the ticket line for the overbooked flight of "The United American Airlines" B757-200 in a 250 seat single class; there is no seat for you, and since there is no other flight today, you're stranded on the airport. Hotel accomodation? Forget about it!

Don't like it? Why don't you then get you bags and go to Armtrack or Greyhoud!

I never get how could DOT aprove Boeing acquisition of McDonnel Douglas which consequently scrapped its commercial division, but spends so much time hunting Microsoft because of its OS that is not the only one on market.

I will not be surprised if DOT aproves mergers.
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RE: Mergers - A Spotters Nightmare

Tue Jul 04, 2000 6:59 am

In Canada we had a merger between Air Canada and Canadian. Now we have only one national airline instead of two. Does that make spotting only half as fun? No. What is more interesting (albeit temporarily) than a Canadian Airlines 737-200 with an Air Canada logo on the tail?

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RE: Mergers - A Spotters Nightmare

Tue Jul 04, 2000 7:52 am

Two comments:

1. I hate the idea of all these mergers. As I suggested to the guy who wanted names for a new airline, it's going to be United and "Not United" if things keep going this way. However I think that the "little upstarts" are probably going to be more successful just because of the American tendency to rebel against the big guy.

2. To Hmmm.... -- Yeah but if there's only one airline, isn't that airline going to focus on a smaller number of airplane designs to fill its needs? You may be able to see a lot of different models right now, but I bet within a few years Air Canada will have significantly chipped away at the variety. Then it will be 319, Dash 8, 319, 319, 319, Dash 8, 757, Dash 8, Dash 8, 319....
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