JetBlueGuy2006
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777 Worldliner

Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:10 am

I was just searching the 777 Worldliner, and the only Livery I saw was PIA. What airlines currently have contracts with Boeing to put into service the new 777?

How many have been built and are flying?

I did a search and couldn't find exactly waht I was looking for.

Thanks in advance
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brendows
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RE: 777 Worldliner

Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:30 am

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Thread starter):
What airlines currently have contracts with Boeing to put into service the new 777?

Airline, and the numbers they have (allready delivered marked with *)
EVA Air 2
Pakistan Int'l Airlines 2*
Air Canada 12
Emirates 10
Air India 8
Unidentified 6 (QR)

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Thread starter):
How many have been built and are flying?

Two, both for PK.
 
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RE: 777 Worldliner

Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:39 am

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Thread starter):
What airlines currently have contracts with Boeing to put into service the new 777?

EVA Air Taiwan ordered 2 x 777-200LR on 27-Jun-2000

Pakistan Int'l ordered 2 x 777-200LR on 14-Nov-2002 and took delivery of the first one on Feb 24th and the second one on March 22nd of this year.

Air Canada ordered 12 x 777-200LR on 10-Nov-2005

Emirates ordered 10 x 777-200LR on 21-Nov-2005

Air India ordered 8 x 777-200LR on 30-Dec-2005

Qatar Airways ordered 6 x 777-200LR as a UFO on 30-May-2006 and finally finalized them last week.

For a Total of 40 777-200LR's so far.

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Thread starter):
How many have been built and are flying?

Only 2... both are owned by PIA.

Use the http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm website and do a "User Defined Search" you can find a whole world of good stuff.
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RE: 777 Worldliner

Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:41 am

DOH! Brendows beat me to the punch. I really need to be faster at these posts (work is distracting me... )
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RE: 777 Worldliner

Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:54 am

I'm still hopeful qantas and BA will order the 777LR for Aussie to LHR service. hey it will at least do Perth to LHR. Couldn't Qantas find 200 passengers daily for a flight to LHR from Perth? With Emirates, SIA and all the other plucking its Aussie feathers I sometimes think Qantas doesn't do all it can to carry the natives to England from Western Australia. Eastern Australia is very well served by QF to the UK.
 
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RE: 777 Worldliner

Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:36 pm

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 4):
With Emirates, SIA and all the other plucking its Aussie feathers I sometimes think Qantas doesn't do all it can to carry the natives to England from Western Australia. Eastern Australia is very well served by QF to the UK.

Qantas operates flights from Perth to Singapore, from where passangers have an option of 4 flights to London (2 on BA, 2 on QF). As for direct flights from PER to LHR, I just don't think QF could get the premium pax they'd need to make the route work. The East Coast (SYD, MEL, BNE) is well served for a reason: that's where the money is.

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ATLFlyer323
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RE: 777 Worldliner

Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:37 am

Hey and don't forget the maybe possibility of DL getting some LR's in the future.

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RE: 777 Worldliner

Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:02 pm

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 4):
I'm still hopeful qantas and BA will order the 777LR for Aussie to LHR service. hey it will at least do Perth to LHR.

Yes, but that is the only route that BA could potentially use the a/c on effectively. I doubt very much that there would be a sustainable profitable load factor for LHR-PER, especially in the premium cabins. Furthermore, to sustain a daily service, you would probably need 4 a/c, one outbound, one inbound, one in MX, and a spare. This would be uneconomic to support only one route.

My money would be that the 10 reserved delivery positions that BA hold will become -300ERs in the fullness of time. This would be a very useful a/c for many of the current routes that the airline operates, and would be a -400 replacement for some of them, and a capacity growth a/c for other routes.
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RE: 777 Worldliner

Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:20 pm

Quoting ATLFlyer323 (Reply 6):
Hey and don't forget the maybe possibility of DL getting some LR's in the future.

Just for fun I will add AA to possiblities that so they can start long-haul non-stop service from MIA to many many places. Maybe DFW to Africa or Australia someday.
More Fun...JL so they can start non-stop service to MIA to connect to AA's South American Network.
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RE: 777 Worldliner

Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:15 pm

Quoting BA777ER236 (Reply 7):
Yes, but that is the only route that BA could potentially use the a/c on effectively. I doubt very much that there would be a sustainable profitable load factor for LHR-PER, especially in the premium cabins. Furthermore, to sustain a daily service, you would probably need 4 a/c, one outbound, one inbound, one in MX, and a spare. This would be uneconomic to support only one route.

Actualy, why is LHR-SYD/MEL nonstop not an option - the Worldliner flew 21.600 km from Hong Kong to London, from London to Sydney is 17.000 km. The HKG-LHR flight was of course without cargo and with few pax onboard, but still, isn't there enough margin here to reach SYD/MEL (or LHR)?

Also, if it were the case that a very small number of the flights would run out of fuel before reaching LHR or SYD/MEL (like 320s can have problems crossing the US in adverse wind conditions), it would not be a problem; planes could make a fuel stop in Europe or BNE or something... What do you guys say..???? It would definitely be a punch in the face to EK!.....

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RE: 777 Worldliner

Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:20 pm

I thought BR had switched to -200LRFs?
 
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RE: 777 Worldliner

Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:25 pm

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 9):
Actualy, why is LHR-SYD/MEL nonstop not an option - the Worldliner flew 21.600 km from Hong Kong to London, from London to Sydney is 17.000 km. The HKG-LHR flight was of course without cargo and with few pax onboard, but still, isn't there enough margin here to reach SYD/MEL (or LHR)?

Whils't the a/c may be capable of LHR-SYD, it would be with so little payload as to be non-commercial. Qantas looked at LHR-PER, and were very concerned about operating PER-LHR with a viable payload, so SYD-LHR non-stop would be a non starter.

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 9):
It would definitely be a punch in the face to EK!.....

That's as maybe, but you still have to make it pay!
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RE: 777 Worldliner

Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:37 am

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 10):
I thought BR had switched to -200LRFs?

Nope, not according to Boeing's order books. I guess that was only a rumour. But IIRC, they converted some 77Ls into 77W.
 
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RE: 777 Worldliner

Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:04 am

Quoting Centrair (Reply 8):
Just for fun I will add AA to possiblities that so they can start long-haul non-stop service from MIA to many many places. Maybe DFW to Africa or Australia someday.
More Fun...JL so they can start non-stop service to MIA to connect to AA's South American Network.

I cant tell whether or not your poking fun at me, but I'm a good sport so it doesn't matter to me.:D

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