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AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:56 am

Build Your Snowman in the Sand With AirTran Airways' New Nonstop Service to Ft.
Myers From Chicago- New Service From Chicago (Midway) Begins December 21 -


ORLANDO, Fla., Sept. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- AirTran Airways, a subsidiary of AirTran Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: AAI), today announced the addition of enhanced service to Florida from the Midwest with new nonstop service between Chicago (Midway) International Airport and Southwest Florida International Airport. The route will be served on the airline's popular quiet and fuel efficient Boeing 717 aircraft.

Effective December 21, 2006 through April 16, 2007, AirTran Airways continues its Chicago (Midway) expansion with the addition of nonstop service to Ft. Myers. Along with the recently announced routes to West Palm Beach and Miami, the airline will offer flight options to 11 nonstop destinations with 33 daily departures from the Windy City, as of February, 2007.

"Just in time to give customers a break from the grips of the cold Midwest winter, we are offering nonstop service to the warm beaches of Fort Myers from Chicago," said Kevin Healy, AirTran Airways' vice president of planning and scheduling. "With these new flight options, Chicagoans traveling to any of our four nonstop Florida destinations; Miami, West Palm Beach, Sarasota/Bradenton and Orlando, can enjoy the comfort and convenience of easy online booking on http://www.airtran.com/, assigned seating and business class on every flight."

AirTran Airways now offers the following nonstop flight options between Chicago's Midway International Airport and Southwest Florida International Airport:

Nonstop Service between Chicago (Midway) and Ft. Myers

From To Flight Departs Arrives Frequency
Chicago (Midway) Ft. Myers 633 12:11 p.m. 3:46 p.m. Daily

From To Flight Departs Arrives Frequency
Ft. Myers Chicago (Midway) 636 4:21 p.m. 6:06 p.m. DailyAirTran Airways, a Fortune 1000 company and one of America's largest low- fare airlines with 7,800 friendly, professional Crew Members, operates nearly 700 daily flights to 50 destinations. The airline's hub is at Hartsfield- Jackson Atlanta International Airport, where it is the second largest carrier. AirTran Airways' aircraft features the fuel-efficient Boeing 737-700 and 717- 200 to create America's youngest all-Boeing fleet. The airline is also the first carrier to install XM Satellite Radio on a commercial aircraft and the only airline with Business Class and XM Satellite Radio on every flight. For reservations or more information, visit http://www.airtran.com/ (America Online Keyword: AirTran).

Glad to see AirTran continually expanding at MDW. Another former ATA route...See Press Release Here

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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:29 am

How much more room for growth does FL have gate-wise at MDW? Certainly, WN won't be giving them any help (though 1 of the 3 CO gates might be a possibility).
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:41 pm

How about MDW to the West (LAS, LAX, SFO)! If they can get the gate space and times - go west you AirTran, go west!

Also, go to STL from ATL, MDW & BWI!!!!
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:44 pm

Dont you guys think that FL could fly to a much better destination like one that doesnt have 3 WN flights a day????
 
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:07 pm

How many gates do they have? can they squeeze 33 flights into 3 gates?
 
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:17 pm

Reply 4, posted Thu Sep 28 2006 13:07:06 UTC+2 and read 28 times:

How many gates do they have? can they squeeze 33 flights into 3 gates?


According to the AirTran website, they operate ouy of 5 gates at Midway, A2, A4A, A4B, A10, and A12. So 33 flights per day means each gate is used between 6 and 7 times per day. I would think they could go up to at least 40 flights per day (8x per gate) without a lot of trouble.
 
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:24 pm

Great to see Airtran add more flights and destinations out of MDW. It seems the RSW flight will just be seasonal. I'm sure if it does well it will be kept.

Quoting EWRandMDW (Reply 5):
According to the AirTran website, they operate ouy of 5 gates at Midway, A2, A4A, A4B, A10, and A12.

I wonder what moving around the MDW airport authority did. A2 was usually being used by DL and F9 since its one of the common use gates. I think either DL or F9 were moved over to A1 when UA(TED) left earlier this month.

Quoting DeltaDAWG (Reply 2):
Also, go to STL from ATL, MDW & BWI!!!!

Airtran on MDW-STL would be a big no. They would have a hard time against WN since they have 11X daily flights on this route.
 
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:40 pm

I wonder which of these markets has the better chance of becomming more or less of a focus city for FL:

MDW
IND
BWI

Any takers? I think all three have equal chance; FL is growing service to all three markets, too...
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:47 am

From what I hear, there is a big chicago population in the RSW area....not sure if its big enough to support WN AND FL on the route. If nothing else, it will be fun to see both fight it out and of course offer low fares as a result.
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:21 am

Don't forget AA, UA, USA3000, and NK offer 6x daily to RSW from ORD as well!
 
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:37 am

Quoting EWRandMDW (Reply 9):
Don't forget AA, UA, USA3000, and NK offer 6x daily to RSW from ORD as well!

True but I was referring more specifically to RSW-MDW specifically...not to say that RSW-ORD isn't direct competition also. I must say it is rather surprising to see FL enter this market since there is already LOTS of competition. Will be interesting to see what happens.

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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:53 am

Good going FL! I hope it works out...
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:16 am

I wonder if MDW operations for FL are profitable overall.
 
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:58 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 7):


I wonder which of these markets has the better chance of becomming more or less of a focus city for FL:

MDW
IND
BWI

I would say they ALL are, to one degree or another.
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:12 am

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 12):

FL does very good out of midway. theres still talk of making that a mini hub. dont be suprised if you see another 10-15 flights out of there in the next couple of years.
 
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 13):
I would say they ALL are, to one degree or another.



Quoting Callsigncitrus (Reply 14):
FL does very good out of midway. theres still talk of making that a mini hub. dont be suprised if you see another 10-15 flights out of there in the next couple of years.

I am surprised that FL doesn't fly MDW-BWI or LAS, but then again, those are very strong WN routes as well... I suppose they could add MDW-SFO. Not really direct WN competition, as they fly to OAK...

I checked FL's route map to see who all they serve from given destinations, and I saw that they fly PIT-FLL. I thought that service (Saturday only) was dropped. Did it come back er something? I even remember seeing ATL and MCO flights ONLY from PIT...

Is FL still thinking of going international eventually? I am sure that the three markets I mentioned above, MDW, BWI and IND, would be likely gateways in addition to ATL... Any other thoughts?
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:40 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 15):

I am surprised that FL doesn't fly MDW-BWI or LAS, but then again, those are very strong WN routes as well... I suppose they could add MDW-SFO. Not really direct WN competition, as they fly to OAK...

Expansion from MDW seems to be limited, at least so far, to business destinations and Florida, a traditional FL strong point dating back to the Valujet days. Under these criteria, LAS would probably be a no-go, and they'd much prefer DCA to BWI
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:13 am

Quoting MiCorazonAzul (Reply 8):
From what I hear, there is a big chicago population in the RSW area....

On the whole the West Coast of Florida has a strong connection to the Mid-West and the East Coast of Florida has a Strong connection to the Northeast (NY, NJ, PA, MA).

Although my Grandparents from NJ lived on the West Coast of Florida, all their retired neighbors were from the Mid-West. Also there are huge populations of Canadians along the Gulf Coast during the Winter, the Maple Leaf is displayed proudly in many towns.

Im hoping Airtran can get some more gates, an operation of somewhere between 55-60 flights per day would be perfect.

New nonstop cities I hope FL can launch from MDW would be:

LGA 5xs daily , LAS 2xs daily, LAX 3xs daily, SFO 2xs daily, ROC 2xs daily, DCA 3xs daily, HPN 3xs daily, PHL 4xs daily, FLL 2xs daily.
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:01 am

I've flown FL several times and I don't get the attraction. Compared to WN the legroom is miserable and that's really important to me. For me, access to their entertainment system isn't enough of an attraction to risk damaging my knees. Can someone please enlighten me what's so great about FL???
 
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:37 am

Business class, friendly crew members (in my experience anyway), and they fly nonstop for cheap from MSP to MDW.

I wasn't not a fan of AirTran after the ValuJet merger. I had a few bad experiences in ATL and BDL (back when they served BDL). Since I've moved to MSP and they fly nonstop to MDW, I've given then a second chance and I'm glad I did. I enjoy my trips w/ AirTran. I am 5' 11" and don't find the seats to be all that bad in the back.

Quoting EWRandMDW (Reply 18):
I've flown FL several times and I don't get the attraction. Compared to WN the legroom is miserable and that's really important to me. For me, access to their entertainment system isn't enough of an attraction to risk damaging my knees. Can someone please enlighten me what's so great about FL???
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:30 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 17):
New nonstop cities I hope FL can launch from MDW would be:

LGA 5xs daily , LAS 2xs daily, LAX 3xs daily, SFO 2xs daily, ROC 2xs daily, DCA 3xs daily, HPN 3xs daily, PHL 4xs daily, FLL 2xs daily.

Hmmmm, someone stated that LAS might be a no-go (I brought that one up as well). MDW-PHL would go head2head with WN. Not sure about ROC.

DCA, HPN, FLL, and SFO, though, I think might work out for them...
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:34 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 20):
DCA, HPN, FLL, and SFO, though, I think might work out for them...

Didn't FL apply for slots to serve MDW-DCA and lose out because they applied under the program for small markets?
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:08 am

Quoting EWRandMDW (Reply 18):

I would say businesss class is the main thing. I mean for only 35 dollars!! try to go to another airline and do that. It is pretty nice especially since they have done them all in leather. FL also offers an xfare program for kids 18-22 for 60 dollars so it is great for college kids who commute. I am 6'3 and have had plenty of comfortable rides in coach. Another thing: assigned seating. Southwest is a great airline, but i love to pick my own seat=-) Also cant beat their fares. Theres alot of 84 dollar fares out there right now. Sorry for the rambling, but those are just a few reasons.
 
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:00 pm

Highly doubt FL would try MDW-PHL. They already abandoned the seasonal PHL-RSW/PBI routes after WN came in and now WN has something like 7 flts a day MDW-PHL.
 
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:00 pm

I concede that FL has a business class (what, about 12-16 seats?) and assigned seating. I'm sure that means a lot to many travellers. That doesn't really help me much because I do a lot of business travel and usually have less than 1 week's notice of an upcoming trip. By then most or all of the "good" seats (aisle on left side in my case) are taken and business class is full. And if I were to take FL where most of my business trips go (SF area and Philly/Central NJ) I would have to go through ATL and doing that on top of very uncomfortable seating (my knees are a surgical wasteland) would be much too cruel!
 
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:01 am

Quoting EWRandMDW (Reply 24):

Just give us sometime. You won't always have to go through ATL to the west coast on us.

Quoting EWRandMDW (Reply 5):

Actually we are using A3 (unless ATA has an international flight) A10-A12-A4A-A4B. Lots of room to grow. And lots more is to come.
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:04 am

I hate going down to MDW, but I might do this now with FL now serving RSW, just to fly the B717. My parents have a place in Napels, and have been taking AA or the UA/US codeshare flights out of ORD. I am also kind of hoping for service out of RFD to RSW with the Festival Airlines and what was it, their B757?
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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:31 am

Quoting B757capt (Reply 25):
Actually we are using A3 (unless ATA has an international flight) A10-A12-A4A-A4B. Lots of room to grow. And lots more is to come.

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RE: AirTran Announces MDW-RSW

Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:28 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 15):
I thought that service (Saturday only) was dropped. Did it come back er something? I even remember seeing ATL and MCO flights ONLY from PIT...

As far as I know the service (PIT-FLL) is no longer operated!
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