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Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:07 pm

Just out on Bloomberg. I'll post a link with more details. Boeing is going crazzzy this year!!

More info..this order includes exercising some options. Orders are for 737-800 and delivereis start in 2008.

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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:12 pm

Here you go

SEATTLE, Sept. 29 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA - News) and Ryanair, Europe's largest and most profitable low-fares airline, announced today an order for 32 Next-Generation 737-800s.

Not a UFO order but an options exercise

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060929/sff018.html?.v=66

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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:13 pm

Quote:
Just out on Bloomberg. I'll post a link with more details. Boeing is going crazzzy this year!!

Not only Boeing...
 
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:14 pm

Thanks PanAm!! You're a gentleman!
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:17 pm

If FR receives all its firmly ordered and options for 738s, it'll have at least 413 by 2014. It is not only expected to receive them all but also order more, thereby meaning it'll have a growth rate about 20% P.A. until 2012.
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:18 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 3):
Thanks PanAm!! You're a gentleman!

You're welcome sir now get back to trading or the wife won't be happy  Wink

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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:20 pm

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 5):
wife won't be happy

She's never happy....always bitching and moaning. Sigh, that's a fact of life of being married I suppose!
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:23 pm

Guess the 737 is now aimed at the 7,000 order barrier. With all new orders in September, that should push the 737 past 6,600 orders, so the 7,000-order mark should be possible for late 2007/early 2008.
 
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:32 pm

"These 32 next generation 737-800 aircraft are due for delivery between September 2008 and June 2009 and will facilitate double digit annual growth from 42M passengers this year to 84M passengers in 2012 as Ryanair doubles in size and becomes Europe’s largest international airline. These firm orders are the conversion of options agreed with Boeing in 2005 at prices that give Ryanair the lowest per seat operating cost of any European airline."

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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:33 pm

I just realized that Boeing is just 2 orders away from 700 (666 + 32 = 698). Incredible.
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:39 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 4):
If FR receives all its firmly ordered and options for 738s, it'll have at least 413 by 2014. It is not only expected to receive them all but also order more, thereby meaning it'll have a growth rate about 20% P.A. until 2012.

Many of these are only going to last until their first or second D check. The fleet keeps being rolled over so the number at any one time should be no where near 400. They get bulk discount from B and the secondhand market is thriving .Thus it's cheaper overall to sell them on than to keep them and bear the maintenance cost.
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:47 pm

Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 10):
Many of these are only going to last until their first or second D check. The fleet keeps being rolled over so the number at any one time should be no where near 400. They get bulk discount from B and the secondhand market is thriving .Thus it's cheaper overall to sell them on than to keep them and bear the maintenance cost

Very true, and something I forgot about.
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:14 pm

Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 10):
The fleet keeps being rolled over so the number at any one time should be no where near 400. They get bulk discount from B and the secondhand market is thriving .Thus it's cheaper overall to sell them on than to keep them and bear the maintenance cost.

I don't doubt that what you said is correct, but Southwest finds it very profitable to buy the airframes in bulk and run them until the airframes are retired and sold for scrap.

Does FR do their own maintenence? Does Southwest do their own maintenance? I'm just wondering why Southwest can be so profitable keeping their airframes for their entire lives and FR finds that it's cheaper overall to sell them on.

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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:24 pm

When does the 'r*ped' price availability run out?
 
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:12 am

When does the 'r*ped' price availability run out?

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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:17 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 4):
If FR receives all its firmly ordered and options for 738s, it'll have at least 413 by 2014. It is not only expected to receive them all but also order more, thereby meaning it'll have a growth rate about 20% P.A. until 2012.

I believe the oldest 5 aircraft are going to leave the fleet by the end of this year. On a similar note FR recieved 3 aircraft in the last week previous to this they recieved no aircraft during the summer.
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:47 am

Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
 
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:55 am

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 1):
Not a UFO order but an options exercise



Quoting NYC777 (Reply 9):
I just realized that Boeing is just 2 orders away from 700 (666 + 32 = 698). Incredible.

How do we know that these 32 weren't a UFO?
 
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:59 am

Excellent news. Wow, almost 700 orders this year.
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:03 am

Quoting United787 (Reply 17):
How do we know that these 32 weren't a UFO?

Boeing usually state if the order has been already listed as a UFO.


Does anyone know the difference in the 737 orders from Ryan Air vs the A32Xs for Easy Jet.

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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:08 am

Quoting Shenzhen (Reply 19):
Does anyone know the difference in the 737 orders from Ryan Air vs the A32Xs for Easy Jet.

According to the Airbus Website, EasyJet has ordered 140 A319s; 85 of which have been delivered.

http://www.airbus.com/odxml/orders_and_deliveries.xls
 
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:00 am

Well, at least FR will be able to pay for them.  

They just released an update today announcing that they are increasing their full-year profit guidance to $424.2 million! That is an 11% increase over last year.

“Based on our aircraft delivery programme, our new routes and bases, we anticipate that passenger growth will be slightly higher at 22% (previously 20%) to 42.5 million for the full-year,” says the CEO.

The airline is projecting that it will double in size over the next six years and expects to be handling 84 million passengers by 2012.


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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:10 am

Quoting Smokeyrosco (Reply 15):
On a similar note FR recieved 3 aircraft in the last week previous to this they recieved no aircraft during the summer.

In fact four aircraft have been delivered this week (EI-DLR/S/T/V) and in the region of thirty more are due through the winter season. Even allowing for the disposal of five or so aircraft, this still represents very significant expansion.
 
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:31 am

Wow, can't wait for Ryanair to start odering 787s!!!  Wink
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:02 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 6):

hehehe my wife never bitches or moans,but i feel sorry for you.

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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:17 am

Quoting Express1 (Reply 24):
hehehe my wife never bitches or moans,but i feel sorry for you.

Just got off the phone with her...I forgot to add nag!
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:23 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 25):

Oh dea,you have got it bad,i think this calls for a six pack and a curry as its friday night!!! Big grin

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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:24 am

Quoting Irish251 (Reply 22):
in the region of thirty more are due through the winter season.

Yep. Of those, 10 are due to be deployed in three ways: 3 at DUB; and the rest shared between its two new bases. The other 20 are due to be deployed to its other bases.

Quoting Irish251 (Reply 22):
Even allowing for the disposal of five or so aircraft, this still represents very significant expansion.

Indeed, FR said it will increase its passenger growth from 20% to 22%: "Based on our aircraft delivery programme, our new routes and bases, we anticipate that passenger growth will be slightly higher at 22% (previously 20%)..." It expects to double from 42m to 84m customers by 2012, although I suspect it will surpass that, in view of reports and firm orders and options.
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:30 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 25):
Just got off the phone with her...I forgot to add nag!

She must be a beauty!!!

The better looking, the bitch-ier  Smile

On another note, I wonder if those new 737NG's will come eqiped with some medical supplies?

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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:06 am

Does Ryanair's unusual 'economy spec' - no tables, blinds, no seat recline, make their 737s more difficult to sell on, or will prospective buyers put their own interior in?
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:13 am

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 29):
Does Ryanair's unusual 'economy spec' - no tables, blinds, no seat recline, make their 737s more difficult to sell on, or will prospective buyers put their own interior in?

The earlier -800s have a more standard interior so there are probably no significant issues unless a new operator wants something special. Also, Ryanair's 737-800s are in fact being delivered with window blinds as it was too awkward for Boeing to omit these just on aircraft ordered by Ryanair. I don't think Ryanair are paying for them to be included, though!
 
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:21 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 23):
Wow, can't wait for Ryanair to start odering 787s!!!

Granted that there's any slots left ?  eyebrow 

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Awesome !

That's some 60 planes in 2 days !

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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:47 am

Quoting Express1 (Reply 26):
Oh dea,you have got it bad,i think this calls for a six pack and a curry as its friday night!!!

I'll just take the 6-pack!

Quoting Eatmybologna (Reply 28):
She must be a beauty!!!

Yes she is actually.
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RE: Ryanair Buying 32 X 737NG

Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:22 am

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 29):
Does Ryanair's unusual 'economy spec' - no tables, blinds, no seat recline, make their 737s more difficult to sell on, or will prospective buyers put their own interior in?

Ryanair do have tables and window blinds on all their B737-800's (and will do on all B738's on order). As for the lack of seat recline (they do have recline on their older aircraft, the frames that are most likely to be sold on), the seats are likely to be replaced when they are sold to new operators, so they can use seat recline to their own liking.

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