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Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:25 am

I've heard rumors that there is a relatively new cargo airline flying 747's out of Seattle. Does anyone have any idea what it's name is?
 
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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:08 am

360,out of BFI. Has a 747-300 running cargo to ICN
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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:08 am

CARGO 360 is the name of the airline. It was formed with former management
from Delta with a tie in to Korean Business interests...they have two or
three aircraft up and running I believe
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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:21 am

Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 2):
CARGO 360 is the name of the airline. It was formed with former management
from Delta with a tie in to Korean Business interests...they have two or
three aircraft up and running I believe

Right, I think Carter Chapman and BJ Smith if I am not mistaken...

http://www.cargo360.aero/

[Edited 2006-09-30 03:22:09]
 
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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:26 am

Cargo 360 maybe...They have a big contract with Korean Air cargo.I see them
at ORD all the time.I have seen a 742 and 743 in full colors so far.
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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:43 pm

I've seen them going to JFK at least twice, while checking the arrivals on the flight tracker.. so maybe they're flying there too regularly.
 
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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:59 am

Cargo360 is currently operating flights for Korean Air Cargo to ORD, JFK, and LAX. KE also uses Southern Air. Cargo360 has 3 aircraft all ex KE Cargo aircraft.

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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:03 pm

If anyone has applied, what are their minimums for hiring pilots?

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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:20 pm

Quoting HAL (Reply 7):
If anyone has applied, what are their minimums for hiring pilots?

HAL,
There is a lengthy discussion regarding the terms for hire at CARGO 360
on PPRUNE. It seems prospective pilots have to pay for their type cert
and sign a bond among other things.
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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:20 am

Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 8):
It seems prospective pilots have to pay for their type cert
and sign a bond among other things.

Ouch! Being a Seattle resident I thought I'd look into it just in case the dreaded furlough bug hits again, but with info like that, I'd have to think long and hard.

I tried doing a search on the PPrune site, but couldn't find that thread. Any hints where it is?

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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:27 am

That's interesting...seems like the 743 is the least ideal cargo option in the 747 family after the -100, isn't it? Extra weight from the stretched upper deck with none of the benefits of the -400 ? I guess you can get them cheap and easily, and they probably have lower hours than a lot of the -200's on the market? Just find it curious.
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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:11 am

Their website isn´t working properly. Just a homepage, categories are inactive.
 
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Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:27 am


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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:31 am

Quoting Lemurs (Reply 10):
Extra weight from the stretched upper deck with none of the benefits

The weight difference isn't too big once you gut the u/d interior and I've been told that the aerodynamics are a tiny bit better too.

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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:31 am

If you go to the Cargo360.aero web site, then click on contact, you will find 2 e-mail addresses at which to enquire about employment.
Since you're local, it probably wouldn't hurt to at least talk to them and see what they offer.
 
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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:00 am

HAL

try this

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...ad.php?t=228739&highlight=CARGO360

If that doesnt work, go to the Freight Dogs section and do a search for CARGO360..
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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:28 pm

My GOD - I looked at PPRuNe and someone mentioned that the KAL 747 classics (the ones that Cargo 360 is now flying) have upwards of 142,000 hours on the airframes, and are some of the highest time airframes in the world.

Unbelievable. That's 16 years in the air. How safe is that!?
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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:32 pm

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 3):
Right, I think Carter Chapman and BJ Smith if I am not mistaken...

Try David Greenberg, ex Snr VP of Korean Air.
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RE: Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?

Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:22 am

All of those guys are involved. Dave Greenberg is the president, BJ Smith is the Director of Operations, Carter Chapman is the Chief Pilot. Everyone involved in Flight Ops management from the start-up through today is an ex-Delta employee. Most of the initial cadre of pilots were also DL retirees. The last 3 pilot classes have gone away from that trend.
Yes, the airframes are all 18 years old. The airplanes have been very well maintained by Korean Air Lines, and had no problems passing the FAA Part 121 Conformity Inspection required before they could get an N number.

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