EasternSon
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Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:16 am

Good Afternoon Everyone,

I am in need of a source where I can find a complete list of current DC10 and MD11 operators. (MD10 as well, if any outside of FedEx)

I've searched the internet, and have found many lists of operators, but all include airlines that used to operate aircraft, and many don't include those who have recently leased aircraft to operate. I grew frustrated with the search function here after not finding anything for thirty minutes. Most likely I don't know how to search correctly.

If you can help, I would greatly appreciate a total and complete list, no partial lists. Or, if you could, a link to a free site with the info I need.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Kind Regards,
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:35 am

Well, one of the remaining pax MD11 operators are of course KLM and Finnair. FedEx and IIRC UPS have both, but cargo versions. I believe I saw in another thread that NWA is no longer a DC10 operator, but ATA will become a new DC10 operator (wow, still a new customer after all those years!!) by taking some of NWA's DC10's.
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:54 am

Here's a web site dedicated to you know who... 

MC DONNELL - DOUGLAS DC-10

And here's a site I've just discovered.

Kev's MD11 site

[Edited 2006-10-06 23:08:18]
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:01 am

Quoting Magyarorszag (Reply 2):
Here's a web site dedicated to you know who... Big grin

MC DONNELL - DOUGLAS DC-10

There are a lot of former DC10 operators on that website, but if i understood correctly, he is looking for CURRENT DC10/MD11 operators.
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:06 am

Quoting Kappel (Reply 1):
Well, one of the remaining pax MD11 operators are of course KLM and Finnair

Passenger version, Alitalia, Thai?, and Varig. In the cargo variation, Eva, Korean, Alitalia, Martinair, China Airlines, and Saudi Arabian.

Quoting Kappel (Reply 1):
I believe I saw in another thread that NWA is no longer a DC10 operator

NWA flies the last ones in the week after New Year's. The final flight will be HNL - MSP. I think that JAL still flies a few.
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:09 am

Here are somewhat accurate lists of current status for each frame built.
http://www.airfleets.net/listing/dc10-1.htm
http://www.airfleets.net/listing/md11-1.htm

The DC-10 listing includes MD-10s, however, it doesn't discriminate between the two.

For totally accurate listings, there are companies that make a living providing this kind of information.
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:12 am

Biman Bangladesh still operates DC-10's
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:21 am

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 3):
There are a lot of former DC10 operators on that website, but if i understood correctly, he is looking for CURRENT DC10/MD11 operators.

There are current operators, though you must search through the whole.

Here are most current MD-11 operators:

Alitalia Cargo / China Cargo Airlines / EVA Air Cargo / FedEx / Finnair / Gemini Air Cargo / KLM / Lufthansa Cargo / Martinair / Saudi Arabian Cargo / Saudi Arabian Government / Shanghai Airlines Cargo / TransMile Cargo / UPS / Varig / Varig Log / World Airways
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:41 am

Try www.airlinerlist.com , where you can download complete production lists for the DC-10 and MD-11 which, at the bottom, have complete listings of all current operators.
 
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:23 am

Quoting ZschocheImages (Reply 4):
Passenger version, Alitalia, Thai?, and Varig. In the cargo variation, Eva, Korean, Alitalia, Martinair, China Airlines, and Saudi Arabian.

Thai no longer flies the MD11, and Alitalia only cargo versions. Martinair flies both pax (convertible) and cargo MD11's.
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:30 am

Quoting Kappel (Reply 10):
Thai no longer flies the MD11, and Alitalia only cargo versions. Martinair flies both pax (convertible) and cargo MD11's.

All are painted in cargo collours, and from what i heard, they wont be converted to Pax anymore.
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:46 am

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 11):
All are painted in cargo collours

All except PH-MCP.

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Quoting MauriceB (Reply 11):
from what i heard, they wont be converted to Pax anymore.

That's what I also heard. I wonder if they'll choose to convert those CFs into full freighters, if they do no longer fly PAX for good and don't even keep the option to convert one to PAX in an extreme fleet emergency.
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:53 pm

As I can remember, the only users of D10's in passenger version are Biman Bangladesh (I don't know if this airline is out of business) and Northwest Airlines.

M11 are a lot as Finnair, Martinair Holland, Alitalia (freighter), KLM, Varig, World Airways, Air Namibia,...
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:02 pm

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 13):
As I can remember, the only users of D10's in passenger version are Biman Bangladesh (I don't know if this airline is out of business) and Northwest Airlines.

Actually, WO still fly one pax DC-10-30, and Omni still have eight going around, essentially for the CRAF I believe.

Air Namibia stopped flying MD-11 at the end of August.
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:11 pm

Biman Bangladesh are still operating. They fly a DC-10 to MAN every Sunday.

Karl
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:27 pm

Air India will also operate MD-11's very soon!
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:33 pm

Quoting Kappel (Reply 1):
ATA will become a new DC10 operator (wow, still a new customer after all those years!!) by taking some of NWA's DC10's.

ATA operated DC-10s (series -10 and -40) in the early 80s, so it's not an all-new customer.

/Johan
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:22 am

Omni Air International - DC10
Japan Airlines - DC10
Biman Bangladesh - DC10
Northwest Airlines - DC10
World Airways - DC10

KLM - MD11
Alitalia Cargo - MD11
FinnAir - MD11
Air Namibia - MD11
Ethiopian - MD11
Saudia - MD11
World Airways - MD11
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:41 pm

Thanks for all the responses. So from what I gather from everyone's posts, and my own personal research, are these the current operators?

MD11:

Finnair
KLM
Martinair
World Airways
Sonair
Aeroflot
Alitalia
China Cargo Airlines
Eva Air Cargo
FedEx
Gemini Air Cargo
Lufthansa Cargo
Saudi Arabian Royal
Shanghai Airlines?
Transmile Air
UPS
Varig
Air Namibia

DC10

Aeroflot
Alitalia
Arrow Air Cargo
Cielos de Peru
DAS Air Cargo
FedEx
Finnair
Gemini Air Cargo
Garuda Indonesia
KLM
Lufthansa
Martinair Holland
Northwest Airlines
Omni Air Int'l
Royal Netherlands Air Force
USAF
World Airways


Have I missed anyone, or have any of these operators parked their aircraft indefinitely?

Thanks
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:44 pm

I'm pretty sure Air Namibia have returned their MD-11 to the lessor.

Karl
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:22 pm

Quoting EasternSon (Reply 19):
MD11:

Finnair
KLM
Martinair
World Airways
Sonair
Aeroflot
Alitalia
China Cargo Airlines
Eva Air Cargo
FedEx
Gemini Air Cargo
Lufthansa Cargo
Saudi Arabian Royal
Shanghai Airlines?
Transmile Air
UPS
Varig
Air Namibia



Quoting Scorpio (Reply 8):
Try www.airlinerlist.com , where you can download complete production lists for the DC-10 and MD-11 which, at the bottom, have complete listings of all current operators.

48 Federal Expr F
21 UPS F
19 Lufthansa Cargo F
13 World AW
11 EVA AW F
10 KLM
10 Varig
7 Finnair
7 Martinair
6 China Cargo AL F
5 Alitalia F
4 Gemini Air Cargo F
4 Saudi Arabian F
4 Transmile F
2 Varig Log F
1 Air Namibia
1 Saudi Gvmt VIP
1 Shanghai AL F
174 total in service
21 str
5 W/O
200 built, offic 200 tt

Although accurate, this list is not completely up-to-date

Fedex has several Md11 in conversion, so their fleet is expanding. To keep track of those see http://www.airwaysnews.com/att.html?type=view&article_id=76&junk=.pdf
for UPS a similar story applies. this includes the last Md11 of Air Namibia which is currently at ZRH and all four ex TG aircraft
World AW leases out several of their MD11, to Sonair, AC and ET
RG has only three in operation; the others are stored; Aeroflot will operate 4 ex RG MD11 in the future (after conversion to MD11F)

Quoting EasternSon (Reply 19):
DC10

Aeroflot
Alitalia
Arrow Air Cargo
Cielos de Peru
DAS Air Cargo
FedEx
Finnair
Gemini Air Cargo
Garuda Indonesia
KLM
Lufthansa
Martinair Holland
Northwest Airlines
Omni Air Int'l
Royal Netherlands Air Force
USAF
World Airways

Varig Log also operates DC10; KLM and AY do not operate DC10 anymore, nor does Martinair. They are long gone. Don't think LH or AZ still operate them, either
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:42 am

CargoItalia a pretty new cargo operator is also operating a former VARIG DC-10 in Cargo configuration and has plans to add another or more.
Hope it helps

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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:47 am

Quoting Wsan581 (Reply 16):
Air India will also operate MD-11's very soon

Are you sure?
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:54 am

Quoting AMSSFO (Reply 21):
1 Air Namibia

According to Airfleets.net, V5-NMD (former SR HB-IWH), SW's last MD-11, was retired and in September sent to SIN for freighter conversion. The aircraft has since been re-registered as N286UP.
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:02 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 24):
V5-NMD (former SR HB-IWH), SW's last MD-11, was retired and in September sent to SIN for freighter conversion. The aircraft has since been re-registered as N286UP.


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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:16 am

Quoting EasternSon (Reply 19):
Garuda Indonesia

GA stopped operating the Ten about two years ago.

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 8):
Try www.airlinerlist.com

Well, Airlinerlist mention Buraq DC-10-15, but considering its situation at LOS, can we still take it for an airline operating DC-10?


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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:57 am

Current DC-10 operators:

-Aeroflot: 4x -40F
-Arrow Air: 1x -10F, 3x -30F, 1x -40F
-Avient Aerospace: 2x -30F
-Bangladesh Biman: 5x -30 (although one or two are grounded due to lack of spares according to a german magazine)
-Cargo Italia: 1x -30F
-Centurion Air Cargo: 5x -30F
-Cielos del Perú: 1x -10F, 8x -30F
-DAS Air Cargo: 6x -30F
-FedEx: 36x -10F, 14x -30F, 36x MD-10-10/30
-Gemini Air Cargo: 3x -30F
-Master Top Linhas Aereas: 1x -30F
-Northwest Airlines: 12x -30 (some aircraft are already sold to ATA and Omni)
-Omni Air: 7x -30
-Project Orbis: 1x -10 (aircraft converted to flying eye hospital)
-Royal Netherlands Air Force: 1x -30, 2x KDC-10
-United States Air Force: 59x KC-10
-United States of America: 1x -10
-VarigLOG: 1x -30F (not sure about this aircraft)
-World Airways: 1x -30, 2x -30F

A single DC-10-10 is being tested as a "water bomber" firefighting aircraft. Omega Air plans to convert a couple of former JAL DC-10-40 to KDC-10 tanker aircraft.

Information taken from dc-10.net - hope it was helpful
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:24 am

Yes, LH stopped operating the DC10 in 1996 already I think. Long time ago.
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting DouglasDC10 (Reply 27):
-VarigLOG: 1x -30F (not sure about this aircraft)

PP-VQY was noted at AMS yesterday
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:01 am

Thanks again everyone for their replies, but DouglasDC10, you're awesome. Seriously, a huge help.

Can anyone complete the list for the MD11 now?

Many, many, many thanks!
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:42 pm

Quoting EasternSon (Reply 30):
Can anyone complete the list for the MD11 now?

the most up-to-date list I can get:
Federal Expr 50 and 8 stored or in conversion
UPS 22 and 9 stored or in conversion
Lufthansa Cargo 19
World AW 14
EVA AW 11
KLM 10
Varig 3 and 7 stored; 2 more might be put in service soon
Finnair 7
Martinair 7
China Cargo AL 6
Alitalia 5
Gemini Air Cargo 4
Saudi Arabian 4
Transmile 4
Saudi Gvmt 2
Varig Log 2
Shanghai AL 1
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:18 am

Do not forget USAF's KC-10 Extender tanker planes.
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:22 am

Quoting Ravel (Reply 32):
Do not forget USAF's KC-10 Extender tanker planes.



Quoting DouglasDC10 (Reply 27):
United States Air Force: 59x KC-10
 
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:33 am

Quoting EasternSon (Reply 19):
DC10

Aeroflot
Alitalia
Arrow Air Cargo
Cielos de Peru
DAS Air Cargo
FedEx
Finnair
Gemini Air Cargo
Garuda Indonesia
KLM
Lufthansa
Martinair Holland
Northwest Airlines
Omni Air Int'l
Royal Netherlands Air Force
USAF
World Airways

Scratch Aeroflot, Alitalia, Finnair, Garuda, KLM, Lufthansa, and Martinair. I'm not sure about the others, but I know Arrow, Cielos, FedEx, Northwest, and Omni still have them.
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:42 am

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 34):
Scratch Aeroflot

You sure? Then what is that? A vision?  Wink

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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:28 am

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 34):
Scratch Aeroflot

Aeroflot definitely still operates DC10s. They are also going to activate 6 additional MD11 for use in 2007 - 2008, or so I read in Aviation Week.

Thanks again everybody. I truly appreciate your help.

Have a great day!
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RE: Current DC10/MD10/MD11 Operators?

Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:09 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 23):
Are you sure?

According to this link yes:

http://www.justplanes.com/News006.htm
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