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Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:48 am

I didn't see this in any previous TAAG posts, apologies if it's been noted before.

I just got to Luanda and read the typical hotel business rag, there were many articles on the TAAG fleet update (and Luanda airport upgrades), and one tidbit was that their two 747SP-300s were going to be converted to cargo haulers. There was were no further details.

As previously mentioned, it also said their 4 737-700s that are on order will replace all in serivice 737-200s. I'm not familiar with the -200s, they looked to be pretty tired old turbojets when we taxied past them (I was on flight BA77).
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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:50 am

What is an SP-300? They don't exist...
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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:55 am

First off, their is no 747-SP300. Their is a 747-300. They have the 743 and I believe these are all former SR examples. Second, it wouldn't surprise me as it would be more reliable in terms of freighter a/c. I would rather convert my own ( like AF is doing to their 744 in converting them to F stats) b/c it would be easier than to get a/c already configured for F.

They have the right frames. They can easily be configured as these were 357C models.

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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:56 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
What is an SP-300? They don't exist...

I was quoting the article, welcome to Angola...

It confused the f. out of me also. I have serious doubts that TAAG will enter the freight business, but the market is here between telecom (new GSM carrriers) and oil in Cabinda.

Take it for what it's worth, I'll send you the magazine if you want it.
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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:28 am

Any idea if the articles you read, mention anything about configuration, inflight entertainement etc ?

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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:58 am

The TAAG 747-300s are Combis, one a 747-357 ex Swissair, one a 747-312 from SIA. As much as I know they use them as such, transporting Cargo in the back. The 777s they are about to get carry less Cargo than a 747 Combi. Seems TAAG need more capacity than the smaller 777 can provide in their underbelly.
Anyway, good to hear 747s will still be around for years in the beautiful TAAG livery.
 
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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:08 am

Keep in mind that during the civil war the TAAG subsidiary Angolan Air Charter operated quite a few B707 on European routes.

Now these birds a gone and the economic boom created by the rapidly expanded oil production has created an increased demand for cargo capacity that the B772 will not be able not meet on their own.

For TAAG it certainly makes more sense to convert their B743 and use them in an all-cargo role rather than to sell them on the market and then wet lease cargo capacity from another carrier.
 
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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:14 am

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 6):
Now these birds a gone and the economic boom created by the rapidly expanded oil production has created an increased demand for cargo capacity that the B772 will not be able not meet on their own.

For TAAG it certainly makes more sense to convert their B743 and use them in an all-cargo role rather than to sell them on the market and then wet lease cargo capacity from another carrier.

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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:30 am

Quoting NA (Reply 5):
As much as I know they use them as such, transporting Cargo in the back.

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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:00 am

747SP-300 hahahaha

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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:58 pm

Are there any companies still doing 747-classic cargo conversions?
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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:50 am

Did TAAG really get the B737-700 and the B777-200?
 
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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:14 am

Quoting Viasa (Reply 11):
Did TAAG really get the B737-700 and the B777-200?

The info was from the "Economia & Mercado", dated Julho-Agosto 2006. There are a series of articles on updates to UHF/VHF via satellite, an interview with Jorge Melo of the Empress Nacional de Aeroportos e Navegacao Aerea, (sorry, can't add the correct accents...), also that there are 500 million dollares in upgrades to Angolan airports (new color TVs in the managers' offices?). The article says they are receiving 3 777-200ERs and 6 737-700s.

They want to build a new airport also near Luanda.
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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:08 am

Quoting AirSpare (Reply 12):
new color TVs in the managers' offices?)

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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:01 am

Quoting Viasa (Reply 11):
Did TAAG really get the B737-700 and the B777-200?

Look up TAAG 777 and 737-700 in the database and see for yourself.

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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:11 am

Was out at Everett on saturday, and the two 777-200s are on the line all painted up......
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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:57 pm

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 10):
Are there any companies still doing 747-classic cargo conversions?

Places like HAECO and TAECO should still be able to if someone wanted to hire them. The Flight Structures kit and related engineering is still available.

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 10):
Bedek did their last 747-classic last year.

Any reason that they couldn't/wouldn't do more if a customer came along?

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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 10):
Bedek did their last 747-classic last year.

That was a former pure-pax aircraft converted to cargo. Converting a combi is much easier and is done faster. I think there are still companies doing this, IIRC one at Wichita ?

Quoting Tod (Reply 16):
Any reason that they couldn't/wouldn't do more if a customer came along?

Because their backlog is full of 747-400 conversions, and probably that won't change. Few, if any, classics will be converted in the future, so they focus on the -400.
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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:12 pm

Viasa

Did TAAG really get the B737-700 and the B777-200?


If I am not mistaken I recall reading a post in here regarding TAAG CANCELLING the B73G and B772 order?

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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:28 pm

Quoting EK413 (Reply 18):

No they thankfully did not cancel. They just got repeainted, which led people to believe that they were being returned. In the end, the aircraft were painted back to the old TAAG colours
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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:28 pm

Quoting EK413 (Reply 18):
If I am not mistaken

Some (or all) are supposed to be delivered to Luanda on 11 Nov. I'll be here, I just need to find out how to get invited to the ceremony.
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RE: Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo

Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:16 pm

Guys, TAAG used their 743 on cargo market between Brazil and Angola for Telecom (as posted above the new GSM network) and also for some equipment for Odebrecht (a major engineer company with huge activities in Angola). Their past idea is to use one of the planes on a cargo flight from Sao Paulo to Luanda thru SSA. Probably there are other markets, like Portugal, Rio, Houston, China among others where the 743 can be successfully used.

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