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Smallest Aircraft That Can Fly YYZ-LHR

Tue Jul 04, 2000 2:54 am

What is the smallest aircraft that could fly this route? Any help would be great.
 
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RE: Smallest Aircraft That Can Fly YYZ-LHR

Tue Jul 04, 2000 3:06 am

If you're thinking passenger aircraft in airline service - that would probably be the 757-200ER. Canada 3000 has several of those, and I'm sure that it's done charters on the YYZ-LHR route before. The 757-200ER has ETOPS clearance to do transatlantic routes, hence the -ER (Extended Range). Air Transat does have 757s, too, but I don't know if those have the same ETOPS clearance that C3's 757s have. Besides, Air Transat's been using L1011s on transatlanic flights.
 
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RE: Smallest Aircraft That Can Fly YYZ-LHR

Tue Jul 04, 2000 3:17 am

The 737-700 and possibly the A319 should also be able to do it carrying a normal load of passengers, after all Swiss World was to fly GVA-EWR with the 737-700 before they folded and the aircraft are ETOPS compliant.
 
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RE: Smallest Aircraft That Can Fly YYZ-LHR

Tue Jul 04, 2000 3:31 am

Virtually any aircraft can fly from one spot on the globe to another. Your question must be qualified with respect to ETOPS, non-stop service, passenger service, or some other qualification of the Federal Aviation Regulations.
E.g. a 727 is smaller than a 757, but 727s have operated Part 135 (commercial passenger)operations across the Atlantic. But they have three engines. And it was not non-stop. A320s can cross the Atlantic too but usually only as a non-passenger ferry flight. A little Cessna can also go across the Atlantic but not as a passenger flight nor obviously non-stop.

Hmmmm...

P.S. ER does not mean that a plane is certified for ETOPS across the Atlantic. It merely means that it is a longer-range version of a previous model.
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RE: Smallest Aircraft That Can Fly YYZ-LHR

Tue Jul 04, 2000 3:40 am

The smallest plane to fly Toronto Pearson to London HEATHROW (not Gatwick guys) is Air Canada's 767-200ER's and possibly their -200 non-ER's but those I think are only used on inter North American flights. Toronto to Gatwick is definetely the 757-200 (there is NO ER version of the 757, but there are some non ETOPS ones) I flew C-GRYK from YYZ-LGW and back last year and most definetely Canada 3000 used to do that route in the early 1990's with their 757's... the 737-700 and 800 could do it no question and so can the A319 (Air Canada was talking about YHZ-MAN with those) but the A320 is probably out of the question. It's really wierd to think of 737's crossing the Atlantic though no matter what their range.

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RE: Smallest Aircraft That Can Fly YYZ-LHR

Tue Jul 04, 2000 4:13 am

Air Transat operate B757s from YYZ to Edinburgh and Aberdeen (and to a few places in England) and Canada 3000 do likewise to Glasgow.

Cant think that the A319 would ever get ETOPS clearance to operate regular transatlantic schedules though.
 
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RE: Smallest Aircraft That Can Fly YYZ-LHR

Tue Jul 04, 2000 4:21 am

it is either the A-320,737-700 or 800, but the average passenger probably won't feel comfortable flying a 737 acrosse the atlantic though and the loads are too demanding so thats why occasionally the 757 is operated trans atlantic but usually it is the 767 or bigger.
 
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RE: Smallest Aircraft That Can Fly YYZ-LHR

Tue Jul 04, 2000 5:44 am

Canadair Global Express. It can do it with a full load of passengers and cargo, with fuel to spare!