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No big orders yet !

Mon Feb 22, 1999 4:33 pm

Well it is almost March and still there are no big orders for Boeing or Airbus. I think it is because most airlines already have aircraft on order or because of the Asian Crisis, but what airlines do you think will order aircraft this year. This what I think:

Northwest Airlines will probally order the 717 or A319 to replace it's DC-9 fleet.

SAS will probally order the 767-400, 777-200 or A330-200.

Air India will probally order the 767-400, 777-200 or A310-300.

Air Canada will probally order the 717-200 or A318.

I think this will be the only big orders for 1999, what do you think? Some airlines will order aircraft like the A340-500, A340-600 or 757-300 but I don't think they will be huge orders. There might be a few 777-200 ordered too.
There is alot of orders for regional aircraft too.

Farhan Ali. Newport Beach, California
 
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RE: No big orders yet !

Mon Feb 22, 1999 6:40 pm

Well there are still some orders to come during 1999 although many big carriers already ordered some time ago.

- Northwest already chose the A318, as well as Air Canada which will replace the remaining DC-9s.
- SAS will order the A330-200 or the B767-400, but not the B777, it's too big for SAS.
- Air India will order B777/767 or the A330/340 program, but no A310s, the time for that aircraft is over. If they aquire some A310 they will be used ones.

I'm sure some more airlines will choose the B757-300 soon, especially some American carriers as there are many old B767-200 to replace. B777s will also find new customers.
Narrowbodies like A318/319/320/321 or B737s will be ordered as usual.
And of course we shouldn't forget the new Airbusses like the A332 or the new A340s which some new airlines will certainly order.
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RE: No big orders yet !

Mon Feb 22, 1999 10:49 pm

Air Canada is very interested in 717s to replace their DC-9 fleet. Where did you hear about NW's recent order?
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I don't think that NWA plan

Tue Feb 23, 1999 5:40 am

This is a Northwest town and I haven't heard anything about a A-318 purchase. It wouldn't surprise me seeing Northwests A-320 fleet but my understanding is that Northwest wants to dump the smaller routes they use the DC-9 on and give them to Mesaba Air. Northwest ordered and took delivery of a huge amount of RJ-85 for Mesabe the past two years and I think they just ordered around 50 Canadair RJ for Mesaba from Bombadier.

I don't NWA is planing on even keeping the DC-9 routes let alone buying aircraft to fly them.
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RE: No big orders yet !

Tue Feb 23, 1999 8:24 am

Here is my prediction (just a guess):

* United will order 50 A321's (+50 on option) to replace the last 727's. It would be the first US carrier to order the A321.

* SAS will probably order the B767-400 like you said.

* Air Canada will order more A319's to replace the DC-9's.

* TransBrasil will order Next Generation 737's.

* South African Airways will order B767-300ER's for their flights to the Middle East.

* TAP Air Portugal will order A330-200's.

I don't think that any Asian airline is going place an order this year.

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Aircanada A318?

Tue Feb 23, 1999 1:24 pm

When will Aircanada get the A318?
 
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RE: No big orders yet !

Wed Feb 24, 1999 1:27 am

I have to disagree with you AA727 on the A321 order. If they are going to purchase any aircraft to replace the 727s then it will be the 757-200 or 757-300 they already operate tons of 757s.

Aircanda: They haven't ordered the A318s yet. Another web site says they are interested in the 717 due to its DC-9 roots which they love.
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UA A321? I don't see why not.

Wed Feb 24, 1999 8:20 am

CX747, why wouldn't United order A321's? Why not?
Don't they already have a bunch of A319's and A320's? I strongly beleive the A321 would be good for United. First it would save cost on crew training and spare parts, second if passengers love the A319 and A320 then they will also love the A321, and third the A321 has about the same passenger capacity as the 727.
I said they should order A321's but I did not say that they wouldn't order anymore 757's.

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UAL 321and AC 318, of course!

Wed Feb 24, 1999 8:53 am

It's obvious that AirCanada will order 318s and United 321s. They are introducing the new 319 and 320...and will choose 757 and 717?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!? It would be an absurd!!!
ALL (I repeat, ALL) airlines are interested in keep the most simplyfied fleet possible. How would the 717 for AC and the 757 for UAL fit these ideals? They simply WOULD'T.
 
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RE 757s

Wed Feb 24, 1999 9:47 am

One reason that they won't order the A321 is because it is a dog of an airplane. Anyway, it competes against the 757 and as stated above United LOVES their 757s.
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RE: 717s

Wed Feb 24, 1999 9:50 am

I didn't say it would. I got the informatin from Aircraft Illustrated and a Airline Order Website. It said that Northwest was really considering the 717 and that Air Canada thought the 717 was great because it is NEWER than their Aibus designs and pratically fits right into their DC-9 routes.
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B717 newer? OLDER!

Thu Feb 25, 1999 4:21 pm

Hi CX747,

maybe the name of the B717 is newer than the Airbus's one, but please, the B717 is a modified DC-9-30, a plane planned during the early 1960s.

If they order they order A318s, as they already have signed a MOU.


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