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KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:06 am

I did some search and couldn't find a topic on this:

Tonight a KLM turboprop plane on the way from AMS to HOQ (Hof/Plauen) got diverted to AGB (Augsburg), after a passenger got violent and assaulted the pilot.
The flight was a charter for an Augsburg-based company and was actually planned to be on a Polish White Eagle Aviation plane. That plane however had technical issues in AMS and the KL plane got chartered and was able to take off hours behind the scheduled T/O.
since AGB is closed at night, the flight was then planned to land in HOQ. One of the pax was seriously unhappy with this decision and shorthandedly entered the cockpit, assaulted the pilots and forced them to land in AGB. The pax was seriously drunk.

Link to newspaper report (German only): http://azol.de/Home/AugsburgStadt/sp...20_puid,1_regid,2_arid,813938.html

SORRY if it got mentioned before, but I didn't find anything.
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:11 am

So, AGB, the destination for the tech stop according to the article, was closed for the night and they had to divert to HOQ, only to be forced by a drunken passenger to divert to AGB?

I hope the passenger responsible does serious time for this and gets to pay the bill for it.
 
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:15 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 1):
So, AGB, the destination for the tech stop according to the article, was closed for the night and they had to divert to HOQ, only to be forced by a drunken passenger to divert to AGB?

Yes.

[Edited 2006-10-13 18:19:08]
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:25 am

If I'm correct this flight was operated by a White Eagle ATR-42.
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:28 am

Quoting JRadier (Reply 3):
If I'm correct this flight was operated by a White Eagle ATR-42.

The article says the following: The flight WAS SUPPOSED to be operated by the airline you mention, but the aircraft went tech and so a KL aircraft was chartered.
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:46 am

Quoting A342 (Reply 4):
The flight WAS SUPPOSED to be operated by the airline you mention, but the aircraft went tech and so a KL aircraft was chartered.

Exactly.
I wonder why there is no discussion on here about this?  confused 

And: With a plane full of coworkers, how could the pax succeed with forcing the plane to divert? Only by telling the pilot bad words? WHy didn't the other pax (his co-workers!) end this? maybe they were unhappy as well and didn't mind flying home?  angel 
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:49 am

But in the Dutch internet newspaper it says that the man gained entry to the cockpit. I do not believe that possible in any KLM aircraft?

It's been a terrible week! What's happening to our passengers?! On at least 2 other KLM flights a passenger was arrested after landing for fighting and/or unruly behaviour and on one occasion the crew even sedated a man.
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:51 am

One mad person is not a riot. An incident maybe but far from a riot. That applies even if said person is schizophrenic.  hypnotized 
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:37 am

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 6):
But in the Dutch internet newspaper it says that the man gained entry to the cockpit. I do not believe that possible in any KLM aircraft?

I've also wondered about that. Maybe there is an exception for smaller airliners ?
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:53 am

Quoting A342 (Reply 2):
So, AGB, the destination for the tech stop according to the article, was closed for the night and they had to divert to HOQ, only to be forced by a drunken passenger to divert to AGB?

Then everybody should have been happy! AGB was the original intended destination!!
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:07 am

Quoting Md95 (Reply 9):

You misquoted here. LTU932 said that, not me.

Besides, the article says a tech-stop was planned at AGB. It was not the final destination. But I agree, it sounds a bit strange.
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:57 pm

Also read it on teletext and wondered about the thin how the man could get into the cockpit. On small airliners like the SWM Metroliner the cockpit is open on some flights but a 27 pax plane should be a bit bigger and fly with a closed cockpit door.

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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:45 pm

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 11):

I guess the ATR are safest in that regard, because between the cockpit and the cabin is the luggage compartment. No way for pax to get in during flight.
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:14 pm

Quoting Kappel (Reply 12):
because between the cockpit and the cabin is the luggage compartment

You're right, do we know it was an ATR? Or was is it a Fokker 50/70/100? Whats about the Fokkers?

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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:25 pm

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 13):
You're right, do we know it was an ATR? Or was is it a Fokker 50/70/100? Whats about the Fokkers?

KLM has no ATR's so it must be a Fokker 50. The cockpit door is in the cabin, just like most other aircraft.

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Tonight a KLM turboprop plane

The Fokker 50 is KLM's only turboprop aircraft.
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:37 pm

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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:24 am

Quote:

Berichten van het Duitse persbureau DPA dat het om een KLM-toestel zou gaan werden vrijdag tegengesproken door de Nederlandse luchtvaartmaatschappij.

Translated into English:

News from the German Press Agency DPA that the aircraft involved was a KLM-aircraft was denied by the dutch airline.
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:24 am

Quoting JRadier (Reply 16):
News from the German Press Agency DPA that the aircraft involved was a KLM-aircraft was denied by the dutch airline.

Now which airline was it ???
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:57 am

i believe it was White Eagle (from Poland) but that was shot down (pardon the pun) earlier in this thread.
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:24 am

Guys & gals,

It was definitely NOT a KLM or KLC aircraft !!!
The flight was operated by SP-KCN, an White Eagle ATR42 in an all-white colour scheme, which had been parked at Schiphol-East for days, when the party was visiting AMS...
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RE: KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot

Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:17 am

Quoting MH017 (Reply 19):
The flight was operated by SP-KCN, an White Eagle ATR42

Making it more strange that someone was able to enter the cockpit, seems nobody has learned from 9/11 (sorry, I hate seeing me saying that Big grin )

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