ricardofg
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KL Adding 2nd YYZ Flight?

Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:27 pm

I was reading in a post that was mysteriously deleted off the system that KLM plans to start 5x weekly service AMS-YYZ-AMS using B777-200 to compliment there existing daily B747-400 service...is this true?? Does anyone have a link or more info and when is this service due to begin??
 
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RE: KL Adding 2nd YYZ Flight?

Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:55 pm

I have a dutch article on Luchtvaartnieuws.nl mentioning the same extra 5 weekly 772. Starting april 30.
 
HB-IWC
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RE: KL Adding 2nd YYZ Flight?

Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:52 pm

The additinal service will operate 5 times weekly with B772ER as an evening departure from AMS, starting the end of April through the summer. Here is the schedule of this flight:

KL695 AMS YYZ 1820 2025 (B772, daily except Tue Thu)
KL696 YYZ AMS 2225 1135 (B772, daily except Tue Thu)

The existing flight KL691/692 will remain in the schedule unchanged, and should be operated mostly with a full passenger B744 although it is expected that the flight will also see the B74E combi now and then.
 
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RE: KL Adding 2nd YYZ Flight?

Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:52 pm

Interesting... Any plans to change the equipment on the YUL route?

Not that I'm in a hurry to see the MD-11 go - no other trans-atlantic flight ever takes off from the 7000ft runway 28  biggrin 

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RE: KL Adding 2nd YYZ Flight?

Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:38 pm

Quoting SB (Reply 3):
Interesting... Any plans to change the equipment on the YUL route?

AMS YUL is expected to remain operated with MD11 for the foreseeable future.
 
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RE: KL Adding 2nd YYZ Flight?

Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:57 pm

these new 5 weekly flights are already loaded into SABRE for booking :

KL 696 J7 C7 Z7 S7 B7 M7 K7 H7 L7 YYZAMS 2225 1135‡1 777 0
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KL 695 J7 C7 Z7 S7 B7 M7 K7 H7 L7 Q7 AMSYYZ 1820 2025 777 0
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RE: KL Adding 2nd YYZ Flight?

Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:17 am

How come KL can fill a daily 744 and, presumably another 772 5x weekly while AC don't think more of that route than a 762 seasonal service?

Good for KL, but i'd REALLY like to see AC in AMS year round...

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RE: KL Adding 2nd YYZ Flight?

Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:32 am

KLM does very nicely on the Toronto route due to our large Middle Eastern/African population. Whenever we get a new person in out class they always say "we stopped in Holland on the way here". lol
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RE: KL Adding 2nd YYZ Flight?

Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:16 am

Quoting IMatAMS (Reply 6):
How come KL can fill a daily 744 and, presumably another 772 5x weekly while AC don't think more of that route than a 762 seasonal service?

Onward connections from AMS which AC doesn't have.

Great to see the increase to (almost) double dailies for KL. Chances just increased in getting MD11 substitutions  Wink

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RE: KL Adding 2nd YYZ Flight?

Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:57 am

Quoting IMatAMS (Reply 6):
How come KL can fill a daily 744 and, presumably another 772 5x weekly while AC don't think more of that route than a 762 seasonal service?

There is very much traffic between AMS and YYZ in the summer, due to Ducth visiting family in Canada plus vacation traffic both ways. There are many Dutch emigrants living in Canada.

In summer, also MP and TS are offering AMS-YYZ flights. MP operates 3 weekly 763 flights, while TS offers 4x 310 service.
 
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RE: KL Adding 2nd YYZ Flight?

Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:19 am

Canadians love KLM, especially ones with a European background. My grandparents are Greek, and for years they will only fly KLM to Athens to visit family, almost yearly. It's the same case for many others in the community.
 
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RE: KL Adding 2nd YYZ Flight?

Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:06 pm

Quoting AirbusfanYYZ (Reply 8):
Great to see the increase to (almost) double dailies for KL. Chances just increased in getting MD11 substitutions

Given that the MD11 isn't exactly the most reliable aircraft in the KLM longhaul fleet, I would doubt that there would be many MD11 substitution on the YYZ routes. Mostly, it is the MD11 being substituted at KLM...