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Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:33 am

I just got a GPS for my car and I'd like to take it with me next time I go to Europe. Has anyone had any problems carrying a (switched off of course!) GPS on board?

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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:36 am

I've never had a problem taking them in my carry-on. I take my GPS all over North America and on overseas trips. I put all my electronic things (except PC) in a big zip lock bag, and I always carry them onboard.

I just noticed yesterday, though, that American Airlines has in their magazine that GPSs are one of those forms of electronics not to be used onboard. I don't see how they would interfere with anything (but then again I'm not an electrical engineer).
 
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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:38 am

Quoting Jcavinato (Reply 1):
I just noticed yesterday, though, that American Airlines has in their magazine that GPSs are one of those forms of electronics not to be used onboard. I don't see how they would interfere with anything (but then again I'm not an electrical engineer).

I think it has to do with 9/11 and terrorism, not any technical issue.
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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:41 am

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 2):
I think it has to do with 9/11 and terrorism, not any technical issue.

No, it receives signals and therefore is no different from a radio in terms of regulations....which you cannot use in flight in most cases....BUT...some airlines specifically allow handheld GPSs during cruise flight...Delta is OK with it.

You might wanna search the archives...been discussed before.


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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:01 pm

Been discussed several times - do a search. But just off the top of my head, CO, UA, and NW allow it (above 10,000 ft of course). WN, AA, and TZ do not allow it at all.
 
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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Boar

Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:53 pm

No, I never had any problems carrying a switched-off GPS on board. If you want to switch it on inflight, I would suggest asking a flight attendant. In my experience you will often be allowed to use it.
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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:26 am

Just don't use it for navigation.  Smile

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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:01 am

On second thoughts, if something goes wrong with the aircraft's navigations systems, let the crew know that you could help them navigate around provided they let you sit in the jumpseat Big grin  bigthumbsup 

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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:29 am

gps systems normally just recieve signals, but do not send them... I had them on many of my flights and never had problems.
 
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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:46 am

Quoting Dean (Reply 8):
gps systems normally just recieve signals, but do not send them... I had them on many of my flights and never had problems.

Maybe, but as far as the FAA goes, anything that transmits OR receives is a no-no. A receiver usually has an internal 'transmitter' as part of it's design, but I guess that's not relevant anyway, since a receiver is not allowed....unless specifically allowed by a particular airline (as already mentioned).


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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:04 am

I have carried one on all my recent flights and have turned it on just to see where we were. You are allowed to carry one on board Delta but are not allowed to use it. I asked a Delta pilot once if I was allowed to use it in flight and he said no way. The way he acted was as if I had asked if I was allowed to Carry a loaded gun on board.
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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:13 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 10):
The way he acted was as if I had asked if I was allowed to Carry a loaded gun on board.

Did you ask him what navigation he used? VPR? ADF? Don't think so.
 
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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:14 am

I used my Garmin on AF flight last week and even talked about our position with a CCM + had it turned on during landing and was not a problem. Also used it on LH before, without problems.
 
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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:22 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 10):
You are allowed to carry one on board Delta but are not allowed to use it. I asked a Delta pilot once if I was allowed to use it in flight and he said no way. The way he acted was as if I had asked if I was allowed to Carry a loaded gun on board.

from Delta website"

"You can use these while the plane is at the gate with the doors open, after the plane has taken off and reached its cruising altitude and before it begins to descend for landing, and after the plane has landed and is taxiing to the gate.

Personal digital assistants
Personal computer games
GPS (global positioning satellite) systems"

Quoting Bigsky123 (Reply 12):
and was not a problem. Also used it on LH before, without problems.



Quoting Dean (Reply 8):
and never had problems.

What does "not a problem" mean ??? Does it mean it was specifically allowed?? Did a F/A say it was OK? ....or was it just that the plane didn't crash ??? Just wondering  Wink


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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:08 am

Jimbo,
if you'd read my line thru, you'd notice I was discussing the position of the aircraft (inflight) with a CCM, with GPS on. No, there is no sign hanging in AF cabin saying "GPS welcome". I hope you know, that plane would not crash because of one GPS unit on in the cabin, even if it was a US airliner.
 
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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:28 am

Quoting BigSky123 (Reply 14):
if you'd read my line thru, you'd notice I was discussing the position of the aircraft (inflight) with a CCM, with GPS on. No, there is no sign hanging in AF cabin saying "GPS welcome". I hope you know, that plane would not crash because of one GPS unit on in the cabin, even if it was a US airliner.

As far as I know, it might well be allowed by the airline you flew, but what you're telling me is not evidence of that fact.

I could be listening to my FM radio in the cabin, and there's no sign hangin in the cabin saying "Radios allowed", and the plane might not crash because it's on....but it's beside the point.

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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:31 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 13):
You can use these while the plane is at the gate with the doors open, after the plane has taken off and reached its cruising altitude and before it begins to descend for landing, and after the plane has landed and is taxiing to the gate.

Tell that pilot that

Quoting Cobra27 (Reply 11):

Did you ask him what navigation he used? VPR? ADF? Don't think so.

What exactly are you getting at.
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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:43 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 13):
What does "not a problem" mean ??? Does it mean it was specifically allowed?? Did a F/A say it was OK? ....or was it just that the plane didn't crash ??? Just wondering

Well, F/As saw me with my gps and did not say anything, so I assume that it was not a problem to use them, switch them on during the flight (any part of it). Oh, and also the plane did not crash  duck .
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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:45 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 16):
Tell that pilot that

Perhaps you should have told him....it's his company's own policy (not mine), although he can allow/disallow whatever he wants.


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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting Chase (Reply 4):
But just off the top of my head, CO

Are you sure CO allows GPS on board? I could have sworn on my last flight with them, CLE-IAH-HNL, GPS was included with portable T.V.'s and radios as "contraband" items.
 
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RE: Any Problems With Carrying An Auto GPS On Board?

Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:33 pm

Quoting N231YE (Reply 19):
Are you sure CO allows GPS on board?

According to http://gpsinformation.net/airgps/airgps.htm, they switched from "GPS not allowed" to "GPS allowed" in April, 2005. On one flight, I had it on just before pushback, and the F/A said it wasn't allowed at that time, but having it on at cruise was no problem.

And, people, please - nothing electronic is allowed to be used on climb/descent. It doesn't matter that turning it on "won't cause the plane to crash". Rules are rules, and if you can't follow them, you should find another way to get where you're going.