fll2993
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Fll Runway Extension For Heavy Aircraft

Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:42 am

fll biggest runway is 9000 ft. They plan to extend it. How is this possible with I 95 in their way and port evrglades
 
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RE: Fll Runway Extension For Heavy Aircraft

Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:08 am

I'm sure that if you poke around here, you'll probably find what you're looking for...

http://www.broward.org/airport/community_airportexpansion.htm
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RE: Fll Runway Extension For Heavy Aircraft

Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:10 am

With I-95 on the west end with train tracks a little further west the solution is to the east. The 595 finger from the main I-95 could be placed in a tunnel at the east end of the airport, then the runway could be extended. The east end, not being the main I-95 would be less disruptive.
 
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RE: Fll Runway Extension For Heavy Aircraft

Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:06 am

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 2):
With I-95 on the west end with train tracks a little further west the solution is to the east. The 595 finger from the main I-95 could be placed in a tunnel at the east end of the airport, then the runway could be extended. The east end, not being the main I-95 would be less disruptive.

Highways should definitely not be an issue. Stapleton had a highway (I-70?) going underneath it. Just do a cut/cover tunnel next to the existing one.
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RE: Fll Runway Extension For Heavy Aircraft

Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:07 am

Quoting Fll2993 (Thread starter):
fll biggest runway is 9000 ft. They plan to extend it.

In the near short term, the airport master plan calls for extending and widening the southern runway, 9R/27L, from 5,276' x 100' to something in the neighborhood of 9,000' x 150' or 8,500' x 150' (TBD) in order to alleviate congestion from major air carrier traffic on the northern main runway.

Lengthening the already-longer northern runway is merely a concept at this point, and isn't even mentioned in 95% of all airport expansion documents. Its sole purpose wouldn't be to allow heavy aircraft to operate into FLL (as the airport routinely sees 767s, DC-8s, DC/MD-10s, A300/310s, and occasional A330s, 747s, and 777s), but to allow those on the heaviest end of the spectrum depart with longer fuel range and/or increased payload than the current runway allows.

*If* the county determines, in the next 10 years, that expanding the existing longer runway is a necessary step toward achieving the airport's long-term goal, you *might* see its inception in the next 30. But don't hold your breath...
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RE: Fll Runway Extension For Heavy Aircraft

Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:13 am

what is runway 13/31 used for?? Ive heard that runway isnt used really much at all ecause of the bridge and noise abatement.
 
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RE: Fll Runway Extension For Heavy Aircraft

Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:21 am

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 4):
*If* the county determines, in the next 10 years, that expanding the existing longer runway is a necessary step toward achieving the airport's long-term goal, you *might* see its inception in the next 30. But don't hold your breath...

They need to bulldoze the house of a few of the local NIMBYs to do anything at FLL  banghead   banghead   gnasher !!!
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RE: Fll Runway Extension For Heavy Aircraft

Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:24 am

In my opinion I think they should start making a new terminal by atc tower
 
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RE: Fll Runway Extension For Heavy Aircraft

Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:30 am

In my opinion, you should stop posting pointless threads.
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RE: Fll Runway Extension For Heavy Aircraft

Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:31 am

how am i posting piontless threads??
 
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RE: Fll Runway Extension For Heavy Aircraft

Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:33 am

Do you really need me to go to the forum and list them here?
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RE: Fll Runway Extension For Heavy Aircraft

Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:18 pm

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 2):
The 595 finger from the main I-95 could be placed in a tunnel at the east end of the airport, then the runway could be extended.

Well, because you just can't dig a tunnel in South Florida just anywhere. This isn't NY or Chicago with a heavy land bed. FLL is built on Sand. Believe it or not, you can't even build a swimming pool deeper than 6 feet before you start hitting water. Everything has to be built above ground. Metros, parking garages, diving pools. All the skyscrappers in South Florida either begin at ground level with multi -level parking garages behind them, or they begin somewhere around the fifth floor and have the parking garage occupy floor 1-5 lets say.

The only exception is the Kinney tunnel on US 1 and that is because it is near very old bedrock that lines the river. That's why it is the heart of FTL. Should have seen the problems they had building that. Would never work around FLL which is built around the port!

So, the idea was to extend the southern runway to gently slope up over the east to where it would leave just enough clearance under it for trains and cars. Well combine that difficult task with the NIMBYs and Voila le probleme Messieurs et madames

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