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Concorde - Well You Never Know?

Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:48 pm

Concorde flying again? Don't think that old subject again and yawn . Read the link first.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2410914.html

Maybe it will?
 
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RE: Concorde - Well You Never Know?

Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:57 pm

Interesting, what is the registration for the Concorde in question. It always helps me visualize something like this if I can see a picture.
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RE: Concorde - Well You Never Know?

Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:16 am

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RE: Concorde - Well You Never Know?

Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:06 am

Bravo to the French. Great news. Why does it cost so much to return the aircraft to airworthiness?
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RE: Concorde - Well You Never Know?

Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:15 am

Interesting link - glad that they have had access to do this in order to keep the aircraft active. Makes sense to me, even if they don't let the aircraft fly again...

The same should be happening with BOAF.
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RE: Concorde - Well You Never Know?

Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:33 am

Wasnt F-BTSD being kept in flightworthy condition for the Concorde crash investigation? Thats probably why this group believe they can get her airworthy for less, although I dont believe in their estimates.
 
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RE: Concorde - Well You Never Know?

Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:53 am

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 5):
Wasnt F-BTSD being kept in flightworthy condition for the Concorde crash investigation?

No. that was F-BVFC, stored at Toulouse by Airbus.

Actually, to be more precise, not 1 but 2 Air France Concorde are maintained and kept in flyable conditions :
- F-BTSD, stored at LBG is regularly checked and maintained by an Air France engineers team.

-F-BVFC, stored in Toulouse by Airbus is also regularly maintained.

The three other AF Concorde, F-BVFA (stored at IAD), F-BVFB (stored at Sisheim/Germany) and F-BVFF (stored at CDG) could never ever be brought back in the air.
 
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RE: Concorde - Well You Never Know?

Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:52 am

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 4):
Interesting link - glad that they have had access to do this in order to keep the aircraft active. Makes sense to me, even if they don't let the aircraft fly again...

The same should be happening with BOAF.

Quite true. It is a massive shame BA drained all the fluids, etc from their aircraft, it would have made sense to run the systems once in a while, as is being done in France.
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RE: Concorde - Well You Never Know?

Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:48 pm

Well I don't care who owns one. Just get one flying again!
 
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RE: Concorde - Well You Never Know?

Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:47 pm

I honestly do not believe that any of the Concordes will fly again. Those which are being maintained in France will in all likelihood make static appearances at airshows (esp. the one at Le Bourget) and may even be powered up to give onlookers an impression of their power. A flying Concorde, thoughm one will never see again. If that were done by the French without the British having a flying example, that could be a bit of a diplomatic tiff.

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RE: Concorde - Well You Never Know?

Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:58 pm

I think theres more chance of FR putting in a 5o plus order for the 380 than seeing this beauty fly again.
 
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RE: Concorde - Well You Never Know?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:40 am

BOAF won't fly again.

Various cracks have emerged in the wings and other parts have been damaged inside.

According to the staff there, BA auditors carefully log every mark / scratch etc and bill the group managing for the damage, but they contribute nothing to the condition and maintenace of the aircraft they own nor they offer anything towards the placing of the aircraft undercover.

According to staff at the owning group, they have an up hill task of routine maintenace, site rent / electric, and BA costs which in the end leaves virtually nothing to the £10mn relocation / building construction fees, they calculated at the current rate this will take 15 years or more to save the cash unless they recieve help.

G-BOAC is in a similar pickle in Manchester, G-BOAE in Barbados is at least under a form of cover, but earning no revenue in the salt air.
G-BOAD is a cash generator for the boeing boys in seattle and same again in New York for G-BOAG.

The best preserved examples in the UK are the prototypes.

I suspect in 10 years AF / AC could be scrapped for rotting condition
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RE: Concorde - Well You Never Know?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:12 am

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 11):
G-BOAD is a cash generator for the boeing boys in seattle and same again in New York for G-BOAG.

Other way around, G-BOAG is in Seattle, G-BOAD is in New York.

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 11):
Various cracks have emerged in the wings and other parts have been damaged inside.

According to the staff there, BA auditors carefully log every mark / scratch etc and bill the group managing for the damage, but they contribute nothing to the condition and maintenace of the aircraft they own nor they offer anything towards the placing of the aircraft undercover.

I had not heard this, where did you find that out?
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