gh123
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Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:12 am

I have been looking up on this new airline. Fares from LGW to HKG for only a couple of hundred pounds, not to mention Business Class fares from GBP 400.

Too good to be true or a disaster in the making?
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:15 am

Quoting Gh123 (Thread starter):
Too good to be true or a disaster in the making?

Myself, simple answer is a big YES!
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rdwootty
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:42 am

Really all these airlines offering the public good deals and we run them down? Oasis has good financial backing and remember that you can get insurance if they cease to trade.
Bet they make more money than BMI
 
planemanofnz
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:54 am

Well I just got back from Hong Kong last week and saw their aircraft painted and parked. Flights must be starting soon.
 
gh123
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:55 am

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 3):
Flights must be starting soon.

October 26th Hong Kong - London Gatwick
 
SkyexRamper
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:24 am

I'm sure that route is a great cargo cash crop so maybe that's why they are able to offset these INTRODUCTORY prices. They are going to get people in the door and a month or 2 later after they see profits declining, they'll raise the rates to real prices.
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fly2yyz
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:45 pm

Well isint this airline still not even able to fly. I hear they don't even have their Operating Certificate yet..... anyone know about this?
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:55 pm

AOC was granted last Friday. First flight 25th VHHH/EGKK.
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Carfield
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:28 pm

Well we will see... OASIS has much potential...

The inflight product is a bit less... everything costs a bit more... For Y, I believe there are free meals of sorts, but alcohol is extra, among amenity packs, and traditional "complimentary" items such as headsets. For J, you won't get a fancy lie flat seat, but classic ex-Raffles Class type seating with better pitch, which does not bother me... Nevertheless, meals will be a bit better, but don't expect a fancy five course meal like CX or SQ J. Amenity kits also cost extra. There will be PTV at every J and Y seats, but the classic on rotation ones, but not on demand.

Anyway, I don't want to make much speculation because the websites are vague about the exact details, and the media has so much confliction information... so I guess we have to wait for the brave first a/netter on OASIS.

Also Oasis is fiancially backed by a pastor (Christian faith) and his wife... So they may tap on their "Christian" faith and the stronger and larger Christian community in Hong Kong.

Carfield
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:41 pm

Yes, a lot of members of their church will be on its maiden flight to LHR.

Oasis will be great for Airliners.net users, as they will be able to fly cheap but with comfort  Wink
 
peterinlisbon
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:47 pm

I'm in Hong Kong and I'll be taking the first flight on 25th October to London. I just read in the newspaper that they have been granted their Air Operators Certificate. It is the first one issued to a long haul carrier since Cathay Pacific. I got a ticket for 1000 Hong Kong dollars, which comes to about 1600 (160 euros) including tax for a one-way ticket. There were still plenty of tickets at those prices for the whole of October and November last time I looked.

I hope it all goes well, if it does it's a cheap way of getting to HK and the whole region. I think they'll keep these prices, although of course you won't normally be able to get these fares at short notice. If you book in advance and are flexible I think you can manage it. It's the same with any low cost airline.

When the low cost airlines started up in the UK people couldn't beleive that they were selling tickets to scotland for 10 pounds. People don't beleive me when I tell them how much I paid for this.
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:50 am

I hope their plans to serve OAK and ORD come to fruition. That would make flying around the world easier and cheaper.
I love ASO!
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:33 am

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 5):
I'm sure that route is a great cargo cash crop so maybe that's why they are able to offset these INTRODUCTORY prices

they can only expact good inocmes on the hkg-lgw route, but not on the lgw-hkg route, for this segement the cargo prices are rock-bottom
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:41 am

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 5):
INTRODUCTORY prices. They are going to get people in the door and a month or 2 later after they see profits declining, they'll raise the rates to real prices.

Nope I don't think they will actually. They are basing this on a low cost model, like Ryanair or Southwest, so the price goes up with the more people that are onboard. You will find that there are not that many seats available at the £75 one way marker, although they may have a few more available during their first 'honeymoon' months of operation. There are still going to be the cheap fares in the future, but it will just depend how quickly you book as to weather you get them or not.

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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:43 am

They have lots of ambition with many other routes planned. They are currently in talks with MH for up to 5 of their 744s and are on the lookout for 777s as well (good luck finding those!). Apparently they are looking at Vancouver as well.
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:15 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 13):
They are basing this on a low cost model

I doubt that. How many LCCs have held launch reception parties at Mandarin Oriental in London? How many of them has designer uniforms and proper first tier carrier branding by a professional agency? And a free meal and free non-alcoholic drinks onboard?

They may have a pricing model vis-a-vis LCCs' but their ambition is certainly to become more like Virgin than Ryanair.

Remember what Virgin was like when they first started and what have they become now?

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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:50 pm

any chance of them flying to boston
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calvin99
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:36 pm

Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 15):
I doubt that. How many LCCs have held launch reception parties at Mandarin Oriental in London? How many of them has designer uniforms and proper first tier carrier branding by a professional agency? And a free meal and free non-alcoholic drinks onboard?

I am not sure about this but I read an article that said all beverages from soft drink to alcoholic drink will be charged (mineral water might be charged too but I am not 100% sure about this). So they are sort of LCC but they are not truly LCC.

http://www.oasishongkong.com/hk/en/services/classes.aspx

Also, all special meal will be charged at HK$75 as per their website.

I do wish them success. Hong Kong people will definitely buy the cheap price ticket given most of the consumers are very price orientated. However, Hong Kong - London market is very saturated so price is already quite cheap.

A return flight (mid November) of Oasis at the lowest per my search is HK$4223 or approximately US$540. Cathay, on the other hand is running promotion for HK$6442 or US$825 (no milleage), around 30% cheaper. Other airline serving this route includes BA, VS, NZ, QF and also all those connection from EK, GF, TG, and many more, which also charge at similar price range. So very stiff competition.

They also lack the benefit of FFP, feeder service (which contributed a significant amount of CX traffic). IMHO, Oasis should servce seriously consider serving North America first. Currently, Hong Kong transpacific flight is dominated by CX, CX and CX. Well, there are also NW, which only offer 1X daily flight, a couple flights each day from UA and daily CO to Newark. Other competitior inludes BR, CI, JL, NH, Asiana, KE. The current price between the HKG - LAX is in the region of HK$7000-8000. So Oasis should easily beat them.

However, with all those beauracracy and traffic rights that might be hard.
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:16 pm

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 11):

Since their last press release on friday it seems they will go to OAK as next step!

Unfortunately for me... as i´m waiting for the CGN flights.
LGW is exhausting (and expensive) to reach for German travellers as most LCC´s fly to STN. Just a few flights originating in Germany go to LGW and a transfer from STN to LGW is a nightmare in terms of transportation cost and travel time.
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:41 pm

Quoting Elite (Reply 9):
Yes, a lot of members of their church will be on its maiden flight to LHR.

Well they gonna be disappointed when they realise they have landed at LGW!

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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:39 pm

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 19):
Well they gonna be disappointed when they realise they have landed at LGW!

I would be delighted!! Big grin
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:03 am

Wow the next destination after LGW will be OAK. How exciting to see Oasis come to the Bay Area. Those 747's will grace the Oakland Airport, and give the passengers great connections on B6, WN & MX to the rest of the US, and Mexico.
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:25 am

CNN just reported that they have been grounded as they did not receive necessary rights to fly over Russia on their maiden flight and beyond.
Did the low fare long haul dream just die even before it has taken off?
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:28 am

BBC News 24 have also just reported this ...Longhaul LCC dead before even V1 ...?
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:51 am

Quoting Fd728 (Reply 22):
CNN just reported that they have been grounded as they did not receive necessary rights to fly over Russia on their maiden flight and beyond.
Did the low fare long haul dream just die even before it has taken off?

The airline was trying to cover the event. The airline knew the permission has problem 1 hr before departure, but the airline still let the passenger board the plane and let the passengers waited inside the cabin for 5 hr. After 5 hr, the airline cannot cover the event, and release the pasengers. The airline claimed that they would fly again next day. Let see what happen.

Actually, what happen between the airline and Russian government?? The airline strongly enphasized that they got the permission, but one junior Russian Government offical invalidate the permission.
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:04 pm

Quoting CXCPA (Reply 24):
Actually, what happen between the airline and Russian government?? The airline strongly enphasized that they got the permission, but one junior Russian Government offical invalidate the permission.

http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/C...25/oasis.shtml
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Elite
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:57 pm

Quoting Zeke (Reply 25):

Link gives me an error and something else in a different language.

As for Oasis, they managed to take off successfully today at 1 PM  Smile
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:24 pm

A minor hiccup with the maiden flight! It was supposed to arrive at 1800 local time on 25th October but was delayed due to the unforeseen problem with the russians.

The aircraft is on its way to LGW as I type and is due to arrive at about 1900 local time on 26th October. It will be turned around almost straight away departing back to HKG just an hour or so later than origianlly intended (the inaugral departure from LGW was always intended to be nearly 24hrs after the inaugral arrival).

I can't wait to see this lovely looking aircraft at LGW but I will probably have to wait until saturday now!
 
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:33 pm

Wow, that´s great to see the 744 isn´t dead yet with more and more low-cost and charter flights.

Micke//  Wink
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klyk1980
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RE: Oasis Hong Kong - The Real Deal?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:44 pm

Personally...I can't wait to see them in ORD. If they do it, I think the entire US and Canadian seaboard will benefit from it.