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Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:09 am

Hi folks

I am currently in Bolivia at my uncle's place.
He's got tons of good music and movies which I would like to copy to bring back to Switzerland. However, would I risk anything in doing so.
I know that if you buy contraband there is a risk you get a fine but do you risk anything for bringing CDs and eventually DVDs that you have copied for your own personal use ?

Thanks in advance

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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:17 am

If they are just blank CDs and are not obviously dodgy copies with misprinted and forged labels on them then I don't see how they could stop you. There is no way that they would check every single CD, and anyway, they would not know that you didn't have all that music at home, and you had merely copied these for while you were away Wink You should be ok with them.

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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:45 am

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
He's got tons of good music and movies which I would like to copy to bring back to Switzerland. However, would I risk anything in doing so.
I know that if you buy contraband there is a risk you get a fine but do you risk anything for bringing CDs and eventually DVDs that you have copied for your own personal use ?

Well, it's not as if most of don't do this, but the fact is that it is illegal. You are taking a risk, but the probability of being caught is very small. Don't carry too many at one time, and you'd best have a player to go with your collection so that you can claim you brought them along on your travels.

BTW I'm not so sure you will able to play and DVD's that you copy. There are two problems. First, DVD's have "region codes" that are different: Bolivia is region 4 and Switzerland is region 2. Second is that the two countries use different video encoding standards: Bolivia is NTSC, but Switzerland is PAL. I wouldn't put too much effort into copying DVD's unless you are sure you can play them.

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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:56 am

I don't think that it will be a problem, like others have said, the chances of you being caught are very slim.

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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:01 am

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
I am currently in Bolivia at my uncle's place.
He's got tons of good music and movies which I would like to copy to bring back to Switzerland. However, would I risk anything in doing so.
I know that if you buy contraband there is a risk you get a fine but do you risk anything for bringing CDs and eventually DVDs that you have copied for your own personal use ?

It is because of people like you that the music industry is losing billions of dollars a year...... Just kidding, I think you're safe, and I believe it is not illegal to copy music for one's personal use.
 
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:04 am

They have some new copy sniffing dogs out there, but they've found that they also can't distinguish between new DVDs/CDs and burned ones. The dogs are still useful though because they can alert agents to large shipments of DVDs/CDs, and if they are marked "baby milk" on the bill of lading, then they know something's up...  Wink

So, I wouldn't worry though. There is no law that says you must carry receipts for your goods, though also in some cases, it is not a bad idea to carry proof of ownership of high value items to prevent being assessed duty by some overzealous customs person...
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:05 am

It is illegal to copy music for another person, it is not illegal to make a copy for your own backup. None the less all you have to do is say they are data CD's. I travel with data CD's for work all of the time.
 
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:08 am

I wouldn't worry, I came back from Vietnam will almost 80 bootleg dvds.
 
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:10 am

Quoting Pilotfox (Reply 7):
I wouldn't worry, I came back from Vietnam will almost 80 bootleg dvds.

I wouldn't go around bragging about that if I were you!
 
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:47 am

Quoting DZ09 (Reply 8):
wouldn't go around bragging about that if I were you!

You think the Feds are going to read this and be waiting outside his house with guns drawn?
 
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:55 am

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 9):
You think the Feds are going to read this and be waiting outside his house with guns drawn?

Have you seen how the RIAA and MPAA behave?!?! LOL
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:56 am

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 2):

Well, it's not as if most of don't do this, but the fact is that it is illegal. You are taking a risk, but the probability of being caught is very small. Don't carry too many at one time, and you'd best have a player to go with your collection so that you can claim you brought them along on your travels.

BTW I'm not so sure you will able to play and DVD's that you copy. There are two problems. First, DVD's have "region codes" that are different: Bolivia is region 4 and Switzerland is region 2. Second is that the two countries use different video encoding standards: Bolivia is NTSC, but Switzerland is PAL. I wouldn't put too much effort into copying DVD's unless you are sure you can play them.

Good Luck! scared

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Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:07 pm

I'm surprised the TSA hasn't gotten around to banning CD's. Break one, and you can get a pretty sharp edge.
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:12 pm

Quoting Pilotfox (Reply 7):
I wouldn't worry, I came back from Vietnam will almost 80 bootleg dvds.

And it is because of you our movie stars had to sell their Gulfstream 5's and buy Gulfstream 4's. Good job.
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:48 pm

Officially it can be Illegal if the data was copyrighted.
Personally I dont think it should be a problem.
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:20 pm

If, in the slim chance anyone questions it, just tell them that you downloaded the songs to your computer and burned the songs to a CD so you could listen to the songs you wanted on a Discman. Plenty of people do this, especially cheap people like me who don't want to fork out the cash for an IPod.
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:29 pm

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 11):
have you heard of multizone DVD players ?

Allmost all (if not all) DVD players can be made multizone, usually with the remote. You can search internet for the "hack" if you like. For example some (most?) Philips ones can be made multizone by opening the tray, pressing 789 OK 0 (where 0 is the zone)

PAL and NTSC can also be selected from the menu on a lot of DVD players, but once you change it -- it may be hard to change back because lets say you have an NTSC TV and change it to PAL, after the change you would need a PAL TV to see the setup menu to change back to NTSC (usually there is a secret reset somewhere in the owners manuel). Not all players will play all discs (NTSC/PAL) but for example a COBY for $49 will play about everything all regions and convert the standard (PAL/NTSC).

I am not sure why they bother with zones if they allow people to change them so easily, but I guess they expect most people won't know about it. BTW, there is a special zone for aircraft so aircraft can have movies before the reset of the world, although I don't know if it has ever been used.

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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:32 pm

Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 13):
And it is because of you our movie stars had to sell their Gulfstream 5's and buy Gulfstream 4's. Good job.

 rotfl  If this is from what I think it's from... I would hardly call Brittany Spears a Movie Star.
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:34 pm

Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 13):
And it is because of you our movie stars had to sell their Gulfstream 5's and buy Gulfstream 4's. Good job.

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Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:08 pm

I hope you're caught and face a hefty fine and/or prison time if you break the law, but sadly chances of you being caught are slim at best.

Music (and software) piracy should be punished with the same sentence as piracy on the high seas was in the past: summary execution by hanging or beheading, possibly after keelhauling.
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:14 pm

Just put them in a CD case in a laptop case or something like that and I am 99.9% sure they are going to careless if you have copied CDs or not. Trust me, I pass through AMS, CDG, MCO, LAX, GVA, and FRA many, many times per year and not once have they even spoken to me, the only thing they say is put all metals in the basket and go through the metal detector. They don't give a crap.
 
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:54 pm

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 19):
I hope you're caught and face a hefty fine and/or prison time if you break the law, but sadly chances of you being caught are slim at best.

Music (and software) piracy should be punished with the same sentence as piracy on the high seas was in the past: summary execution by hanging or beheading, possibly after keelhauling.

Normally i'd think that that's a joke but in your case i'm not sure.
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:54 pm

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 11):
have you heard of multizone DVD players ?

I don't think the regional code is that much of a problem... not only can you get rid of that when you rip the DVD for burning purposes, but yes, you can usually make any DVD player multi-region.

However, I find that with my multi-region DVD player, it puts out an NTSC signal when the disc is NTSC and a PAL signal when the disc is PAL. As it's hooked up to an NTSC TV, I cannot watch the latter, unless I get the small 15in PAL TV I own out and hook it up...
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:07 pm

Switzerland is one of the countries where you can buy multizone countries in any electronics store.
At FNAC I bought a thomson DVD player and the multizone process was printed on a piece of paper on the side. For 90 CHF multizone and DiVX, wOOT wOOT.
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:28 pm

Quoting PROSA (Reply 12):
and you can get a pretty sharp edge.

Yeah its kinda tricky to break one, you can end up with the sharp edges in your eyes and skin.
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:31 pm

I did a round the world trip 3 years ago and all I took were copied CDs from home so as not to scratch the originals. Didnt have any problems. Think of it like this, almost everyone takes some CDs when they go on holiday copied or not dont they. Well has anyone ever had their CD wallet opened and checked?
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:39 pm

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 2):
Well, it's not as if most of don't do this, but the fact is that it is illegal.

Well, it depends on the country. In Canada it is perfectly legal, as long as the copies are not offered for sale. The reason for that is the copyright protection levy we pay on every burner, HDD as well as on the blank media.

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 22):
it puts out an NTSC signal when the disc is NTSC and a PAL signal when the disc is PAL.

No problem, there is a whole bunch of converting DVD players available, mostly Chinese. And they are usually very cheap.
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:43 pm

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 10):
Have you seen how the RIAA and MPAA behave?!?! LOL

Don't forget Lars from Metallica too. He might come on your computer screen and say "You have been busted by LARS" like he did during the NAPSTER thing.

Quoting PROSA (Reply 12):
I'm surprised the TSA hasn't gotten around to banning CD's. Break one, and you can get a pretty sharp edge.

I am surprised too the the Department of Homeland Nazis and the Thousands of Stupid Asses haven't banned that. They like to ban everything. One more manufactured scare by the U.S. Government and everything will have to be checked.
 
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:56 pm

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 27):
Don't forget Lars from Metallica too.

I'm pretty sure that now he wishes he would never start the campaign on this topic.
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:57 pm

Im really sure ull be ok with CD's. some of the pirated things ive taken on acft and nobody has cared

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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:08 am

It is illegal to copy CDs or DVDs from others, in fact only your uncle is allowed to copy them for his own use as backup.
But with hand written labels etc. you can claim it are copies of your own collection.
At Schiphol and other european airports you CAN be checked, especially if you come from certain destinations (some caribbean islands for drugs, Africa for illegal animals, ivoiry etc, asia for DVDs and CDs and fake brands clothes, watches etc).
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:09 am

Depends on how much cd's you want to cary on with you?

200 Cd's and it will be suspicious  Smile!
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:39 am

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 26):
Well, it depends on the country. In Canada it is perfectly legal, as long as the copies are not offered for sale. The reason for that is the copyright protection levy we pay on every burner, HDD as well as on the blank media.

Beleive it or not..... If Canada catches you with knockoff movies and music. They nail you with duty on the "original" product. Through conversations with other folk, this has happened. So our family has basically stopped bringing in movies. I found this.... http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cm/d19-4-3/d19-4-3-e.html

And then most of you will be asking how will I get caught? Well there is the random search at customs, then in the UK there is a pair of dogs trained to sniff for it apparently.... http://www.spacegrinder.com/article8.html
 
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:07 am

Quoting Virgin747 (Reply 32):
If Canada catches you with knockoff movies and music. They nail you with duty on the

I really don't want to get into law disputes here, since I have to go to work, but I suggest to find the supreme court decision on that matter. CRA wasn't happy with that at all. And to nail you with the duty on it, they would have to prove first that it is not a fair use... I wouldn't worry about carrying 25 copied DVD's in a CD pouch trough the border, however I would definitely worry about carrying 200 copies with fake labels in fake cases. Same goes for carrying 200 originals and not declaring them.

PS: FYI Virgin747, you really don't have to explain to me how Canadian customs work. I'm a Canadian citizen and I've crossed the border enough times (by air and car) to know how it works.
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:07 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 1):
but do you risk anything for bringing CDs and eventually DVDs

idle thought, not a suggestion of any kind, but carrying information on CD-ROMs (any kind) is so cumbersome, if you have more than a few to keep track of, you need to ensure they don't scratch against each other, and also you need to ensure they don't get pressed upon and fracture. I used to consider CD-ROMs cool, then DVDs better, but who has the time to burn the stuff and check if the burned copies are ok anymore ?


I would simply suggest that a few 1 GB flash USB drives would be small enough to contain all data/music that would be needed for a long flight and a could include a few movies as well, and are easier to carry than a CD-ROM pack. Also, MP3 compression allows you to stuff more tracks on 1GB than a whole pack of CDs. However in the area of security, I would highly recommend NOT USING encryption of any kind, as that would (if customs authorities would be ask to see the content) raise red flags, and it would be a very difficult situation for any pax to explain why they needed their data encrypted. Company executives flying on official business are probably going to get by, by showing travel papers, documents, business cards etc, but if you work for a small company that is not known, I have personal experience that this sort of activity is considered "border line", and not considered safe to do.

Alternatively, if you can upload files from your computer to a common internet location BEFORE you travel, and then download them to your home computer AFTER you travel (from the internet location),then you don't actually have to carry your laptop at all. I use this technique to save on lugging my laptop around sometimes, as most of my work is web-based anyway, if the workload is manageable enough. Other times, I have to carry the whole collection of devices around just to have a mobile office. banghead 


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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:42 am

Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 13):
And it is because of you our movie stars had to sell their Gulfstream 5's and buy Gulfstream 4's. Good job.

Oh, no...our movie stars still make their bank...they're just finding cheaper ways to make movies in the climate of lower cinema attendance and skyrocketing piracy of the movies (so people can eliminate that pesky integrity thing for a few bucks) and that's only taking jobs away from regular folks who cater, run the honey wagons, change lightbulbs and drive the limos. The movies are being shipped to Romania, Bulgaria and other places where they do it cheaper and puts workers in your own country out on the streets.

You're not hurting our movie stars, thank God, you're just hurting the peasants.

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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:44 am

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 2):
BTW I'm not so sure you will able to play and DVD's that you copy. There are two problems. First, DVD's have "region codes" that are different: Bolivia is region 4 and Switzerland is region 2. Second is that the two countries use different video encoding standards: Bolivia is NTSC, but Switzerland is PAL. I wouldn't put too much effort into copying DVD's unless you are sure you can play them.

Getting a multi region DVD player, or decoding it is a piece of cake.
 
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:10 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 5):
They have some new copy sniffing dogs out there,

You mean they brought in Metallica?  Wink  bigthumbsup 
 
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:57 am

Be aware, copied CDs and DVDs do tend to be pretty s*** compared to the originals. My dad bought back four pirate DVDs from Malaysia. One only played on computer, two were almost unwatchable and only one was midly worth it. Plus they also misspelt Sarah Michelle Geller on one DVD. However will my dad only spent abou £4, someone else he was with spent £120 on all these pirates. So while you may crow about bringing back a load of cheap DVDs you might be regretting it if you do make it through customs.
 
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:02 am

Is it me, or am I the only one here that finds it a little bit odd that someone would basically post on an open world-wide read internet thread that says "I'm about to do something illegal, do you think I'll get caught?"

Now, I realize the chance of getting caught is slim, but is this guy just bragging or is he just going to end up on "America's Dumbest Criminals" (or the like) one day?
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:17 am

I wouldn't consider it to be a problem...I recently took a flight with a burned CD of Windows XP in my checked luggage. Not quite the same as a carry-on, but I never had any worries. You'll be fine, as long as you don't bring hundreds along with you. Then it probably begins to get a little suspicious.  Wink

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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:34 am

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 2):
There are two problems. First, DVD's have "region codes" that are different: Bolivia is region 4 and Switzerland is region 2.

I have an OPPO dvd player which does all regions! In fact...I got it yesterday! FedEX "misplaced" it!  Wink
 
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:41 am

Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 38):
Plus they also misspelt Sarah Michelle Geller on one DVD.

So did you!

....or were you showing us how it was misspelt  Wink

I'm not sure I'd regret buying a pirate DVD just because of a spelling mistake!


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Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:45 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 42):
Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 38):
Plus they also misspelt Sarah Michelle Geller on one DVD.

So did you!

....or were you showing us how it was misspelt

I'm not sure I'd regret buying a pirate DVD just because of a spelling mistake!


Jimbo

Whoops, well I think they spelt it even worse on the DVD. Anyway, it still was terrible to watch, the pirates ones I've seen tend to look like their half black and white, half in colour and need the TV on full volume just to hear any sound.
 
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:27 am

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 9):
You think the Feds are going to read this and be waiting outside his house with guns drawn?

We're everywhere.

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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:45 am

I highly doubt that someone would care enough to check what kind of cd's you're carrying never the less the "Legal Status" of them,


You are free to take any kind of cd's anywhere in the world, unless of course you go to the USA where they give you shi. for about everything,

good luck amigo!
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:57 am

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 11):
have you heard of multizone DVD players

Yes, but I don't assume that everyone knows about DVD regions and such. Many posters above clearly do, but most people have no clue so I thought I'd mention it.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 26):
In Canada it is perfectly legal, as long as the copies are not offered for sale.

It is legal if you own the original and the copy is for your own use. It is not legal to make a copy for someone else (nor is it legal to accept a copy from someone else). This is basic copyright law and it doesn't vary much around the world.
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:08 am

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 11):
have you heard of multizone DVD players ?

Exactly, it's really easy to make your DVD player multizone, there are oodles of websites that will teach you how to do it.

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 19):
I hope you're caught and face a hefty fine and/or prison time if you break the law, but sadly chances of you being caught are slim at best.

Music (and software) piracy should be punished with the same sentence as piracy on the high seas was in the past: summary execution by hanging or beheading, possibly after keelhauling.

 scared   Wow! I'm sure glad you're not a lawmaker or any political figure of significance. Suggesting beheading for poor people not able to afford to buy video games or a movie or artist albums and downloading one or two seems a little extreme, don't you think? Perhaps you've been keelhauled one too many times.  Wink

Quoting Morvious (Reply 31):
200 Cd's and it will be suspicious !

Hmmm I don't know about that. What if you're moving to another country and all you personal data, including movies, pictures, work files, you name it, are on CDs. It would be perfectly reasonable to have 10s, maybe even a 100 of them. If you know those tower stacking arrangements that fit like 50 CDs, I don't think it would be too suspicious to see 4 of those.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 39):
Is it me, or am I the only one here that finds it a little bit odd that someone would basically post on an open world-wide read internet thread that says "I'm about to do something illegal, do you think I'll get caught?"

Now, I realize the chance of getting caught is slim, but is this guy just bragging or is he just going to end up on "America's Dumbest Criminals" (or the like) one day?

I don't find it odd at all. First of all even if he says he will do something illegal, it is not certain at all that he will actually do it. I, for instance, could say "I will kill so and so..." and describe my wicked scheme to do it, but I could very well just be messing around with people on the internet, as many do, or I could be very angry and talk about it but never actually do it.

Regardless, in answer to the question, I have flown plenty of CDs and DVDs of my personal collections of music and movies downloaded from P2P networks, and have never received any trouble for it. Once I had a security check inspect a motherboard I had in my bag, in which there were also about 100 CDs with my personal data, they took out the CDs without as much as a second glance, and after examining the motherboard, sent me on my merry way. I never sell my media, and only use it for my own enjoyment. I don't even believe it is illegal to fly them over, as the only illegal part of P2P transactions is uploading them. It is not illegal in itself to download them and once you have them, as long as you do not plan to sell it or distribute it, you are not doing anything illegal, as far as I know.
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:28 am

Quoting TrojanAE (Reply 47):
Suggesting beheading for poor people not able to afford to buy video games or a movie or artist albums and downloading one or two seems a little extreme, don't you think?

Being poor sucks (I've been there) but does not give a person the right to steal. Besides, most of the people who pirate are not poor at all, they're just cheap!

Quoting TrojanAE (Reply 47):
I don't even believe it is illegal to fly them over, as the only illegal part of P2P transactions is uploading them. It is not illegal in itself to download them and once you have them, as long as you do not plan to sell it or distribute it, you are not doing anything illegal, as far as I know.

You are completely wrong. You are pretty much saying that stealing is illegal, but receiving stolen property is o.k. The law disagrees. It is illegal to possess copyrighted work that has not been paid for, regardless of how you obtained it. That, and you didn't share the url where you can download. Smile
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RE: Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:38 am

So to summarize  Wink

1. To answer the thread title "Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board? " - the airline probably couldn't care less, and the security folks the same. It's the customs and excise people that are interested.

2. If you don't own the orginal, it's illegal, whether you have 3 or 3 hundred.

3. Will you get caught ...probably not.


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