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How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:59 am

I am scheduled to fly on a Lufthansa A340-600 on December 23rd from Frankfurt to Tel Aviv.

My father told me that he flew on one from Asia to Munich, and that there were no In seat entertainment systems and that the lavatories were all downstairs.

What are your views on it?

BTW I will fly on a B744 on the way back.

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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:08 am

Quoting Windshear (Thread starter):
My father told me that he flew on one from Asia to Munich, and that there were no In seat entertainment systems and that the lavatories were all downstairs.

Yes the lavatories are located downstairs which is quite cool  Smile There is no PTV on any of LH's aircraft in Y. There is still entertainment on overhead screens in the cabin. This will change when the A380 enters service.

The A340-600's are very nice aircraft  Smile

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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:46 am

To be more precise, the lavs for Economy are downstairs. And, I think the lavs for business class have windows !
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:49 am

Quoting A342 (Reply 2):
And, I think the lavs for business class have windows !

On the A340-600's, yes they do!  Smile
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:05 am

Quoting Capital146 (Reply 3):
Quoting A342 (Reply 2):
And, I think the lavs for business class have windows !

On the A340-600's, yes they do! Smile

As do the economy lavs on Qatar 330s. Nice.
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:26 am

And the Biz lavs on SAS A330s. Nice view.
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:56 am

Quoting Capital146 (Reply 3):
On the A340-600's, yes they do!

LH also has windows in the First Class lavs on board the 744.
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:01 am

How is the seat pitch on the LH 340's i'm flying SFO-MUC-FCO. Will it be comfortable? I am a bit disappointed that there are no PTV's. How's the service, i'm flying economy. Do you get travel pack like British or AF?
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:14 am

Quoting A342 (Reply 2):
I think the lavs for business class have windows !

Hence why they get you to sit down when landing - to avoid any inadvertant mooning at the windows!!! Big grin
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:32 am

LH does have PTV's on their A332's in Y. Anyone know why these aircraft have them?
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:42 am

Quoting Oakjam (Reply 7):
How is the seat pitch on the LH 340's i'm flying SFO-MUC-FCO. Will it be comfortable?

Can't say anything about the A340-600s but the seat pitch on their 747-400s and A330-300s is horrible (at least for me, I am 1.90m tall). No surprise actually, which airline is offering a decent seat pitch in Eco nowadays?

Quoting Oakjam (Reply 7):
I am a bit disappointed that there are no PTV's.

It is not dissapointing, it is a huge joke! We are living in the year 2006 and an airline like LH isn't offering PTVs in Eco... makes me always  rotfl .

Quoting Oakjam (Reply 7):
Do you get travel pack like British or AF?

No you won't, LH's Eco service is piss poor, you can't compare it to airlines like BA, AF or LX... at least there is free booze.  Wink

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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:01 am

Quoting Oakjam (Reply 7):
How is the seat pitch on the LH 340's

Crap, as usual, but the lower cushion on their seats slides forward, which actually increases comfort.

Quoting Oakjam (Reply 7):
How's the service, i'm flying economy. Do you get travel pack like British or AF?

No travel pack, but LH has some of the better Y class food around and the F/As do come around a lot and have no problem with you heading to the galley if you need something

Quoting Spoke2Spoke (Reply 9):
LH does have PTV's on their A332's in Y. Anyone know why these aircraft have them?

The ex-Sabena A332s had PTVs, but are no longer with LH to my knowledge
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 10):
t is not dissapointing, it is a huge joke! We are living in the year 2006 and an airline like LH isn't offering PTVs in Eco... makes me always

What makes me laugh even more is that they have the space for them but stick a band across it as though they're giving you extra storage space when in reality, there is little you can put in there without it falling out.

I've had downstairs toilets on an AIH A330, was very nice!

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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:08 am

Quoting A340600 (Reply 12):
What makes me laugh even more is that they have the space for them but stick a band across it as though they're giving you extra storage space when in reality, there is little you can put in there without it falling out.

I believe the LH A346s actually came with PTVs installed but were later taken out.
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:18 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
The ex-Sabena A332s

Hey, I am still here.  Wink

Quoting A340600 (Reply 12):
What makes me laugh even more is that they have the space for them but stick a band across it as though they're giving you extra storage space when in reality, there is little you can put in there without it falling out.

For me it looks like a big "Here could be PTVs but here aren't any and you jerk paid as much as for a flight with an airline which has PTVs" sign. This is one reason why this airline won't get any Cent of my own's, my friend's, and my family's money anymore. LH is good to have a Star Alliance mileage account with, but nothing more!

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
I believe the LH A346s actually came with PTVs installed but were later taken out.

No, these planes never had any PTVs in Y installed.

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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:11 am

Quoting Spoke2Spoke (Reply 9):
LH does have PTV's on their A332's in Y. Anyone know why these aircraft have them?



Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
The ex-Sabena A332s had PTVs, but are no longer with LH to my knowledge

Yes they are ex Sabena and now went to Swiss.
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:45 am

Is the A340-600's cabin especially quiet, like they say in advertisements or somewhere?
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:49 am

where do they operate the 346's anyways
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:49 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 14):
For me it looks like a big "Here could be PTVs but here aren't any and you jerk paid as much as for a flight with an airline which has PTVs" sign. This is one reason why this airline won't get any Cent of my own's, my friend's, and my family's money anymore.

Oh man, get over it. Some people think PTVs are everything. It wasn't many years ago that they were the preserve of the high rollers in first and business. Now people walk onto a plane expecting some kind of amazing personal entertainment experience on their flight. I agree, it's very nice, when it's offered, but some people just assume when you buy your ticket to destination X that it will be available, and then complain when it's not. If there's no PTV and the main screen IFE's cr@p then just read a book, magazine or newspaper. Then sink a couple of drinks after the meal service and get some shut eye  bigthumbsup 
I suppose this may in part be based on my nicest flying experiences have both been on airlines without PTVs in economy:
NZ from LHR to AKL, due to the excellent legroom NZ offer in economy. Plus after the first 10 hrs of the flight, it's pretty hard to stay awake the following 10!
RG from LHR to GIG and back. RG's M11s certainly lack creature comforts and the legroom is not that great, but as both flights depart late in the evening and the meal service is prompt it's easy to sleep. Just goes to show you don't need all mod cons to have a good flight.


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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:58 am

Quoting LuvAir (Reply 16):
Is the A340-600's cabin especially quiet, like they say in advertisements or somewhere?

I never flew on the LH A346 but on a SA one, it was mega-quiet, even better than on the A343/342! The A34X series is the quietest of all, so much is for sure.

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 17):
where do they operate the 346's anyways

www.lufthansa.com -> Timetable

Quoting Lowsonboy (Reply 18):
Oh man, get over it.

I am long over it, LH is not an option for me anymore, not only because of the missing PTVs, it is a piss poor airline in general!

Quoting Lowsonboy (Reply 18):
I miss SN!

Me, too!

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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:14 am

I flew LH from DFW-FRA on one of the A343s in Biz, and found the service there to be quite dissappointing. The flight attendants seemed very... well... German. The food was mediocre, and the seats were mediocre. They seemed on par with the business I have experienced on carriers like AA, DL, etc. Now this was only a 2 class aircraft and it was an A343, but I assume service will be similar.
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:40 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 19):

I never flew on the LH A346 but on a SA one, it was mega-quiet, even better than on the A343/342! The A34X series is the quietest of all, so much is for sure.

I prefer to call my "quitest of them all" "noise reduction headphones"...... Wink
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:05 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 19):
I never flew on the LH A346 but on a SA one, it was mega-quiet, even better than on the A343/342! The A34X series is the quietest of all, so much is for sure.

Indeed i would dare to say its the quietest widebody in the world. I also cant understand LH,IB, and the rest dont have PTV IMO this is a wrong move and this will be a very important sales point in the future. I always enjoyed PTV on LX.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 21):
I prefer to call my "quitest of them all" "noise reduction headphones"...... 

Doesnt help a lot at noisier planes like A320,777 etc.. at least for me not.
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:10 am

I would like to be a bit more positive than some of the replies above.

I have very high respect for Lufthansa. They are one of the few european international airlines who operate a fleet of impeccably clean aircraft and it gives me great pleasure each time I see them. Even though the livery is simple, they always look very smart. Just do a quick search on this site and compare with KLM, Air France, Iberia (and even British Airways sometimes!) Even the older A300-600Rs are in beautiful condition. I really do hope they keep it up.

I flew last year from Frankfurt to Guangzhou and onward to Manila on Lufthansa A340-642 D-AIHD and thoroughly enjoyed the flight. The seating in Y class like most Airbus A330s + A340s is 2-4-2 which is nice.

I mostly use PTV's to keep an eye on the flight progress / routing and on the LH A340-600 this was shown between all films and presentations on the overhead screens which was enough for me to follow the general route. I got enough information to enable me to look out at the right time to spot Mount Everest and Makalu.

Most passengers dissembarked at Guangzhou and I had the plane almost to myself for the 2 hour flight onward to Manila. Needless to say I had a good look around the plane and of course tried out business class. Yes those toilets have windows!

The toilets in economy are indeed downstairs and the most spacious you are likely to see in Y class.


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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:57 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 19):
I am long over it, LH is not an option for me anymore, not only because of the missing PTVs, it is a piss poor airline in general!

Ach Quatsch. I had to fly AZ last week again after our LH A320 had a birdstrike after take-off. Now, if there's a "piss poor" European Airline ...

BA is great but only average if there's no competing airline on the leg you fly.

And I basically regularly fly Swiss to Basel and was never really pleased.

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Quoting Lowsonboy (Reply 18):
I miss SN!

Me, too!

I don't. Granted, I used SN on only four flights but none of them was good or at least average. Bad food, cramped cabin, leaking air-conditioning and unfriendly staff. And I'm already blaming BRU for our lost luggage, not SN.
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:01 am

I flew a 340 not sure which one from Bangkok to Hong Kong and back on Gulf Air in May. Wasnt too impressed. I know the bathroom was on the same floors as us in Y. Too few bathrooms and if you tried to use the one in business or was that first class by going through that curtain, the flight attendants would shoo you out of there. The readers will know what kind of 340 it was. Too bad us working class cannot experience business or first class but hey this is a world of have vs have nots. What can you do?
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:28 am

Quoting A342 (Reply 2):
To be more precise, the lavs for Economy are downstairs.

According to http://www.seatguru.com, one Y-lav is on the same floor as the cabin, which sounds reasonable against the background that some people have difficulties climbing steps.

Quoting Hamster (Reply 25):
Too few bathrooms and if you tried to use the one in business or was that first class by going through that curtain, the flight attendants would shoo you out of there.

F/As will of course send you back to Y if you try to sneak up to the front, no matter what aeroplane you are on.
As for the number of lavs: I don't know about Gulf Air, but, again according to seatguru.com, LH's A346 have 6 lavs for Y class. In contrast, their B747 have 6 to 8 depending on the version. That should translate into a similar number of lavs for Y-pax.
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:39 am

Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 22):
Doesnt help a lot at noisier planes like A320,777 etc.. at least for me not.

Maybe you are using cheap low quality headphones.. Wink

the ones I use drown it out..especially when listening to tunes or watching movies... Smile
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:17 pm

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 17):
where do they operate the 346's anyways

They have 12 A 346 at this very moment, Number 13 is to come in some days.

The latest 2 A346 have F-Class (D-AIHM/HN), the former 10 (D-AIHA - D-AIHL) are only in 2-class-config.

The 2 new A346 serve ORD (LH432) and YYZ just till 28OCT, then they´ll serve CPT. From 10NOV on they also serve IAH. Next Destination will also be DXB from February 2007.

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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:22 pm

Quoting B742 (Reply 1):
There is no PTV on any of LH's aircraft in Y

This is what I feared, and it is also backed by the photos posted here  Sad
I it is cheap of Lufthansa, no offense, but really, even Thai's got them on their A346s

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 14):
Hey, I am still here.

 Big grin

Quoting Awthompson (Reply 23):
I would like to be a bit more positive than some of the replies above.

I have very high respect for Lufthansa. They are one of the few european international airlines who operate a fleet of impeccably clean aircraft and it gives me great pleasure each time I see them. Even though the livery is simple, they always look very smart

I agree it is stylish, and classic, but I am gonna ride inside them  Smile

Anyway I think the shots of the interior looks amazing, new and fresh. Just cannot understand why there are only tvs on the mid aisle??

Oh well perhaps the food will make up for the missing PTVs  Wink

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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:22 pm

I appreciate that moving the toilets to the lower deck allows for more seats on the main deck - and hence more income - but it means that physically disabled passengers will not be able to use the Economy class toilets.
A friend who travelled on a LH A340-600 also pointed out that people gather outside the toilets to wait for one to become free but because there are only a few oxygen masks available in that area the flight attendants constantly had to warn passengers not to stay there.
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:37 pm

Quoting Lowsonboy (Reply 18):
I agree, it's very nice, when it's offered, but some people just assume when you buy your ticket to destination X that it will be available, and then complain when it's not. If there's no PTV and the main screen IFE's cr@p then just read a book, magazine or newspaper. Then sink a couple of drinks after the meal service and get some shut eye bigthumbsup

I've not yet been on a plane with PTVs and frankly I don't think I'm really missing out. I've been on a Skyservice A330 with the normal IFE screens and they were alright enough to watch MI3, and I've been on an Air Transat A310 with the same, no bother. Frankly, I'm with Lowsonboy in that I prefer to sleep, read, use my laptop, look outside, etc. I watch more than enough TV at home not to warrant watching a whole bunch more on a flight for eight hours. If its there, I'll use it, if not, I'll live.

I wonder if the PTVs on the A346s were removed for weight? Would it make any difference at all? Or maybe they were getting damaged and were expensive to replace? Just random thoughts...
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:50 pm

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 10):
Can't say anything about the A340-600s but the seat pitch on their 747-400s and A330-300s is horrible (at least for me, I am 1.90m tall). No surprise actually, which airline is offering a decent seat pitch in Eco nowadays?

LH's 346's are excellent....the seat pitch was very comfortable and the plane itself is a beauty.....on the other hand, their 744 Y class is a disgrace!!

Service in Y class was just okay....I found nothing to write home about.... smile 
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:58 pm

Quoting B742 (Reply 1):
There is no PTV on any of LH's aircraft in Y.

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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:13 pm

Quoting Lowsonboy (Reply 18):
If there's no PTV and the main screen IFE's cr@p then just read a book, magazine or newspaper. Then sink a couple of drinks after the meal service and get some shut eye

That's a nice idea the problem I've found on the last few nighttime long haul flights I've done is that I'm too tired to be able to concentrate on reading, can't sleep because of time zone issues and actually have several channels of mindless entertainment is the easiest way to pass the time. Plus for all us enthusiasts you get to decide when to look at the map rather than when it appears on the main screen
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:02 pm

Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 34):
That's a nice idea the problem I've found on the last few nighttime long haul flights I've done is that I'm too tired to be able to concentrate on reading, can't sleep because of time zone issues and actually have several channels of mindless entertainment is the easiest way to pass the time. Plus for all us enthusiasts you get to decide when to look at the map rather than when it appears on the main screen

Same here, I won't spend the whole flight watching the PTV, but it's nice to have the option. If VS was a German airline, I bet LH would have had PTVs years before BA....

Besides, it also keep children a bit quieter too  Wink
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:48 pm

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 24):
I had to fly AZ last week again after our LH A320 had a birdstrike after take-off. Now, if there's a "piss poor" European Airline ...

I read horror stories about AZ here frequently but personally I've never, ever had a problem with them. Ok, the two long-haul flights to/from DXB were nothing to write home about but I was impressed by their service on my Germany-Italy-Germany flights, I have no problems to book an AZ flight again.

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 24):
And I basically regularly fly Swiss to Basel and was never really pleased.

Swiss is IMO one of the best European airlines together with AF, BA, and SU.

I will never forget that LX gave me a seat on their ZRH flight when I was stranded in DXB whith a LH non-rev ticket in the middle of the night (the LH check-in dude simply told me: "Flight is full, go away from the check-in counter").

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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:54 pm

Good Morning!
My wife and I came back from Frankfurt on LH A340-300 on 10/12.
It seemed amazing to me they had only the one "TV" screen for
a whole set of seats. I like looking out the window but also knowing
where we are with a map in my face.
Service was fine, meals OK for coach.
We flew to Vienna on Austrian and their 767-300 had the "TV" screen
in each seat back. Very excellent service on FLt 88. Extremely slow
getting out of JFK. Can't imagine what it's like if weather is bad.
Bathrooms on main floor, by the way. (A340)
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:08 am

Quoting Windshear (Thread starter):
My father told me that he flew on one from Asia to Munich, and that there were no In seat entertainment systems and that the lavatories were all downstairs.

I just flew YVR-FRA last week, and indeed the lavs are downstairs. Spacious lavs too. And the FAs left some tomato and apple juice "downstairs" so that the pax could help themselves to drinks.

No IFEs ... and it made it even more painful as I flew on AC YEG-YVR on a refurbished A320 with ACs IFE. I'd rather have had it on the 9.5 hour flight in LH. So too bad. I will fly back for Christmas from FRA with AC so I hope that the 767 I will be on will be already updated with the IFEs.

The flight itself was comfortable, but I was by the wing. I could feel some strange vibrations from the engine. Furthermore, the captain's annoucments I could not hear at all, but it had nothing to do with the plane I don't think as it's quite quiet ... more like he was nearly whispering. And a bit of a rough landing too in that beast.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 10):
No you won't, LH's Eco service is piss poor, you can't compare it to airlines like BA, AF or LX... at least there is free booze

Huh? I got free wine and beer on above mentioned flight, plus some Baileys.

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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:43 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 36):
when I was stranded in DXB whith a LH non-rev ticket in the middle of the night (the LH check-in dude simply told me: "Flight is full, go away from the check-in counter").

That's very unusual. I found my flights overbooked and volunteered to fly on the next plane twice and the staff was always helpful, friendly and generous. Some flights were delayed, and I had difficulties getting my connection flight - not only on LH but also on other flights, but only LH bothered to guide me through the terminal and to the gate- without asking them.
Same last week: Not only did our plane return to HAM after bringing seagulls closer to become an endangered species, but also at least one other LH plane. After three hours roughly 150 out of 200+ passengers were re-booked, and most of them were out for holiday destinations, mind you.
We found ourselves on an AZ flight, although Alitalia isn't even a Star member. Yes, this is how it should be, but it isn't always is. Ever stranded with good ol' Swissair? Air France? I pity you. They didn't even pay a hotel room. SN, to be fair, did.

LH can do a lot better, but they are still well above average in my book.
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:43 am

Quoting Dgehfx (Reply 30):
but it means that physically disabled passengers will not be able to use the Economy class toilets.

Yes I was thinking about that aswell. But me personally like the idea. Although I liked the toilet area in the 777, where you could look out the small window by the door, stand and chat with your friends/family and have some water from the fountain.

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 32):
their 744 Y class is a disgrace!!

Yes imagine this, last time I flew with Lufthansa from TLV to FRA I was thrilled to discover that I had a window seat, except that the windows at that seat, didn't exist, there was no glas!! How cruel is that??

Quoting Milan320 (Reply 38):
Spacious lavs too

Yes they do seem very very nice.

Quoting Milan320 (Reply 38):
So too bad. I will fly back for Christmas from FRA with AC so I hope that the 767 I will be on will be already updated with the IFEs.

Good luck with that  Wink
I don't think I would fly with Lufthansa on long haul flights, SAS is actually quite good.

Boaz.
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:16 am

Quoting Dairy (Reply 28):
They have 12 A 346 at this very moment, Number 13 is to come in some days.

The latest 2 A346 have F-Class (D-AIHM/HN), the former 10 (D-AIHA - D-AIHL) are only in 2-class-config.

The 2 new A346 serve ORD (LH432) and YYZ just till 28OCT, then they?ll serve CPT. From 10NOV on they also serve IAH. Next Destination will also be DXB from February 2007.

Other routes are
MUC-SFO
MUC-PVG
FRA-DEN
FRA-ICN (continuing to PUS in 2007)
FRA-KIX
FRA-CAN-MNL
FRA-YVR

In Summer 2007 LH will serve GRU, JFK, ORD, PVG and SFO with 346 from MUC when they have all the 17 A346!

FRA-BLR is showing A346 for summer 07 schedules is this correct or is not updated yet? Currently they B747 on this route.
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:49 am

Quoting Windshear (Reply 40):
Yes imagine this, last time I flew with Lufthansa from TLV to FRA I was thrilled to discover that I had a window seat, except that the windows at that seat, didn't exist, there was no glas!! How cruel is that??

Yes, that's my ultimate nightmare....when I last flew LH 744, the row in front of me had no window...it was the row just after the door #4....
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:26 am

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 42):
Yes, that's my ultimate nightmare

Yes well I intend to focus on this not happening again Big grin

Anyways looking forward to flying through Frankfurt, just love the traffic there, and also riding the two big mofo planes  Silly

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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:32 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
I believe the LH A346s actually came with PTVs installed but were later taken out.

Or rather, they came with the provisions for the PTV screen installation inside the aircraft, but evidently, they were never installed.
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:36 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 36):
(the LH check-in dude simply told me: "Flight is full, go away from the check-in counter").

Having read thousands (at least it felt like thousands) of your LH bashing posts, his answer was exactly what you deserve  duck 
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:38 am

Quoting Dairy (Reply 28):
In Summer 2007 LH will serve GRU, JFK, ORD, PVG and SFO with 346 from MUC when they have all the 17 A346!

Is this confirmed ? If yes, which of those will be 3-class aircraft ?
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:01 am

Well I can't say anything bad about LH's A340-600. Flew on them many times out of TLV to FRA, although most of the times I was sitting in Biz, I flew a couple of times in Eco, was quite nice, although I didn't like the attitude of the stewardess, they really behaved improperly!

It's a great plane to fly on! you'll enjoy it.
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:43 am

In my opinion I'd always favor quietness and cleanliness over PTV (which of course is nice to have).

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 19):
I never flew on the LH A346 but on a SA one, it was mega-quiet, even better than on the A343/342! The A34X series is the quietest of all, so much is for sure.



Quoting Awthompson (Reply 23):
I have very high respect for Lufthansa. They are one of the few european international airlines who operate a fleet of impeccably clean aircraft and it gives me great pleasure each time I see them.
 
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RE: How Are LHs A340-600s?

Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting Fraport (Reply 45):
Having read thousands (at least it felt like thousands) of your LH bashing posts, his answer was exactly what you deserve

Was this answer also what the paying (Business Class) customer next to me deserved?

If you don't believe the story, then simply ask fellow A.netter "SQ325", he stood 10 centimeters next to me when I got this answer!

Quoting LuvAir (Reply 48):
In my opinion I'd always favor quietness and cleanliness over PTV (which of course is nice to have).

You get both at countless other airlines, for a lower fare.

Patrick
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