atlaaron
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Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:32 am

Or can they just live near any airport and catch their flights there?
This question goes for both the passenger airlines as well as FedEx and UPS.
 
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:12 am

I met a CO pilot earlier this year who lives in Spokane, a city not even served by his airline. He has to fly to SEA or DEN to catch a flight to EWR, where he flys 738s to South American destinations.
 
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:21 am

As long as they are at work on time, the airlines couldn't care less where the pilots or flight attendants live. I've heard of an IAH based pilot who commutes from Managua.
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:28 am

So you think they just non-rev to get where they need to be to report for work?
 
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:35 am

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 3):
So you think they just non-rev to get where they need to be to report for work?

Pretty much. Growing up in the Seattle suburbs, I had a neighbor who flew 747s for JL (who don't even serve SEA), so I don't think it's terribly uncommon (quite the opposite I'd guess) for pilots to live far away from their airline's main hubs.
 
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:38 am

Quoting ATLAaron (Thread starter):
Or can they just live near any airport and catch their flights there?

I know of a few pilots who live in New Zealand and fly for airlines that do not even service the country. It doesn't matter where you live, you can negotiate in your contract how you will travel to the airlines hub, what class of travel to get there and family travel etc.
 
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:45 am

At my airline, before I retired at least, a puilot on reserve (on call) was supposed to be no more than an hour away by surface transportation, but nothing prevented a pilot from commuting to his base and standing reserve in a hotel or crash pad. It's not any fun, but can be done. And some commuting stories are the stuff of legend. Imagine needing to get to work and facing full airplanes or serious weather delays. It's all happened.....
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:57 am

We have a family friend who lives in PER and flies for SAA out of JNB -- talk about a nasty commute!
 
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:57 am

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 2):
Managua.

Excuse my geographic ignorance, but is this a city, region, country ...?

Quoting C133 (Reply 6):
And some commuting stories are the stuff of legend. Imagine needing to get to work and facing full airplanes or serious weather delays

So I've heard; I'd love to hear some of them.

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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:01 pm

A neighbor of mine here in Ontario flys the 737 for KLM . He deadheads on the flights during the week, does his runs in Europe then comes home.
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:15 pm

Managua is the capitol of Nicaragua

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managua
 
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:40 pm

My uncle is Capt for AA, ORD based living in AUS.

Have a few other very close friends.

AA 777 FO, DFW based, lives in AUS.

FX MD11 Capt, MEM based, lives in AUS.

NW 757 Capt, MSP based, lives in AUS.

WN 737 Capt, HOU based, lives in AUS.
 
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:04 pm

My mom was a DTW-based NW f/a, but we live in PIT. Ok, F/A is not pilot, but similar rule in this case.
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:27 pm

Pilots can commute to their assigned base city (hub) from anywhere they like using non-rev/jumpseat privaleges.
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:41 pm

It is possible to live quite far from your base, but commuting gets old very quickly. The farthest I lived from work was 9 hours by jet, but the most vexing was living 160 km by road from my job in Canada.

Pilot rosters seem to vary quite a bit between carriers-some are home most nights, so commuting is out. Others go to work only twice (very long trips, though) . I think most people end up in a different city because of rapid expansion/contraction of their carrier's fleet-no sense moving for what may only be a year or so before promotion or furlough.

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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:18 pm

My uncle who was a F/A with AA based at JFK, but lived near LAX. Wasn't an issue except he hated the job and quite after years of calling in sick all the time. Personally, I would like to live in California, but be based out of PHX. Anything more than a 5 hour flight seems excessive to me, just my opinion though.
 
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:34 pm

HV has a rule for FAs at least (possibly pilots too) that they should be (while on duty) be able to reach Schiphol (or the other end of the route if they're inbound) within an hour.
Effectively that means they should live within an hour travel distance by train or car from the airport during rush hour traffic, or roughly 40km.
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RE: Do Pilots Have To Live Near Hubs?

Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:02 pm

As others have said, commuting is an option. Many pilots who upgrade to larger equipment (unless they live in the city that has a crew base), end up commuting. (E.G. A pilot who lives in DEN but commutes to ORD).

I have heard of UA crews who are based out of SEA and live in Tokyo. Likewise I have heard of NYC based flight attendants who live in Japan.

I'm sure commuting can get old though, particularly if your last leg passes through your hometown! I recently flew DEN-IAD, and the captain (752) was DEN based, but finishing his last leg. At IAD he deadheaded on a flight back to DEN. Talk about a commute...

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