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Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:52 pm

To: All Midwest and Skyway Airlines Employees
Date: October 26, 2006
From: T.E. Hoeksema
Subject: Third Quarter 2006 Financial Results

It is my pleasure to share the news that Midwest Air Group is today reporting a profit for the third quarter of 2006 -- our second consecutive profitable quarter.

Midwest Air Group posted net income of $1.7 million and diluted earnings per share of 9¢ in the quarter -- a significant improvement from the $26.9 million net loss and $1.54 per-share loss that we reported in the third quarter of 2005. Additionally, we increased operating revenue 23% on a 17% increase in traffic and 10% increase in capacity. Revenue per available seat mile was up nearly 13%, thanks to improvement in both load factor and yield.

Although fuel prices gradually decreased during the quarter, they remain considerably higher than last year. Fuel cost increases accounted for a $10.0 million negative impact on operating income, or 41¢ per share -- diluted, compared with third quarter last year. Fortunately, our strong traffic numbers helped mitigate the impact of the cost increases, as did our fuel-efficient Boeing 717 fleet and fuel conservation efforts.

With just about two months left in the year, it is critical we focus on achieving our 2006 safety, operational, customer service and financial excellence goals -- goals that hold us to the highest standards of excellence in the way we serve customers, treat each other and reward shareholders. Please remember that you are the vital link in our success.

Please accept my sincere thanks for your many contributions this past quarter and everything you will do in the quarter to come.



MIDWEST AIR GROUP REPORTS THIRD QUARTER RESULTS
Airline Reports Second Consecutive Quarterly Profit


Summary: Third Quarter 2006 vs. Third Quarter 2005
Net income of $1.7 million vs. loss of $26.9 million
Operating revenue increased 23.4% to $168.6 million
Scheduled service revenue passenger miles increased 16.8% to 1.0 billion on a 9.8% increase in capacity
Revenue per available seat mile increased 12.5% to 12.52¢
Operating income of $0.4 million vs. loss of $27.1 million
Diluted earnings per share of $0.09 vs. loss of $1.54
Higher fuel prices negatively impacted operating results by $10.0 million, or $0.41 per share -- diluted

Milwaukee, Wisconsin, October 26, 2006 – Midwest Air Group, Inc. (AMEX: MEH) today reported third quarter results for its Midwest Airlines and Skyway Airlines (dba Midwest Connect) operations.

"Broad marketing initiatives that increased passenger traffic, and an improved fare environment, contributed to our strong revenue performance and resulted in a second consecutive quarterly profit," explained Timothy E. Hoeksema, chairman and chief executive officer. He added that although fuel costs decreased in the quarter, they remain appreciably higher than a year earlier.

Comparing third quarter 2006 to third quarter 2005, operating revenue increased 23.4% to $168.6 million. Operating income improved to $0.4 million from a $27.1 million loss in the third quarter of 2005, while net income improved to $1.7 million from a $26.9 million loss. (Due to accumulated losses, Midwest Air Group discontinued recording federal income tax benefit on losses in second quarter 2004 and state income tax benefit on losses in second quarter 2005. The company did not record income tax expense in 2006 results, due to accumulated losses.) Diluted earnings per share were $0.09, compared with a $1.54 loss in the same quarter a year earlier. Results for the third quarter of 2005 included a $15.6 million ($0.89 per share) impairment charge due to the planned retirement of two MD-80 aircraft.

The revenue increase reflects a 16.8% increase in passenger traffic, due to strong customer demand in response to competitive pricing, as well as schedule and service enhancements. A 6.7% increase in revenue yield was driven by a reduction in industry capacity, a series of fare increases by a number of airlines including Midwest, and improvements in the company's yield management processes. Total operating expenses increased 2.7%, due primarily to the 9.8% increase in capacity and increased flight operations at Midwest Airlines, which led to increases in salary, wages and benefits; fuel expense; station rental, landing and other fees; commissions; and aircraft rentals. Fuel expense increased $13.4 million, or 27.8% -- of which $10.0 million ($0.41 per share -- diluted) was related to price increases (calculated by applying 2005 prices to actual gallons consumed in 2006 and comparing the result to actual 2006 expense). Fuel expense includes the effect of hedging, which negatively affected fuel cost by $0.1 million in the quarter.

Year to date, operating revenue increased 30.5% to $496.2 million. Operating results improved to a $1.3 million loss from a $51.2 million loss in 2005, while net income improved to $1.8 million from a $51.0 million loss in the first nine months last year. Diluted earnings per share rose to $0.09 from a $2.92 loss. Results for the first nine months of 2005 included the impairment charge, as well as excess engine overhaul expenses, capitalized expense write-offs, a litigation settlement and severance costs totaling $1.14 per share.

Midwest posted sizeable gains in market share in its Milwaukee and Kansas City hubs. In August 2006, the most recent month for which market share results are available:
Midwest Airlines and Midwest Connect carried 50.7% of all passengers departing from Milwaukee, up from 48.0% in the same month a year earlier. In August 2006, the airlines transported 165,978 Milwaukee passengers, up 4.8% from 158,364 passengers in August 2005.
In Kansas City, Midwest Airlines market share rose to 10.8% for August from 8.2% in the same month a year earlier. In August 2006, Midwest Airlines carried a total of 50,189 Kansas City passengers, up 43.2% from 35,053 passengers in August 2005.

Midwest Airlines
At Midwest Airlines, passenger revenue per scheduled service available seat mile increased 16.1% in third quarter 2006 compared with the same quarter a year earlier. Load factor increased 4.6 percentage points due to a 17.5% increase in passenger traffic on a 10.6% increase in capacity. Revenue yield increased 9.3%.

Into-plane fuel prices increased 19.7% in third quarter 2006, averaging $2.29 per gallon versus $1.92 per gallon in third quarter 2005, and resulted in an $8.9 million unfavorable price impact. Fuel consumption increases resulted in a $3.4 million unfavorable impact in the quarter, primarily as a result of the increase in the number of flight operations.

In the third quarter, cost per available seat mile (unit costs) at Midwest Airlines decreased $0.0087 to $0.1156, or 7.0% (excluding fuel, decreased $0.0151 to $0.0724, or 17.2%) compared with third quarter 2005.

Note: Cost per available seat mile excluding fuel expense is an industry measurement that provides management and investors the ability to track changes in cost absent fuel-related expenses.

Midwest Connect
At Midwest Connect, passenger revenue per scheduled service available seat mile increased 7.6% in the third quarter. Passenger traffic increased 7.7% on a 0.6% increase in capacity, resulting in a 4.7 percentage point improvement in load factor, while revenue yield increased 0.5%. Cost per available seat mile increased $0.0145 to $0.2862, or 5.3% (excluding fuel, increased $0.0035 to $0.2088, or 1.7%) compared with third quarter 2005. Excluding fuel, the increase was due primarily to labor costs associated with ramp and dining services functions performed for Midwest Airlines; the transfer of ramp and dining services functions to Midwest Connect in mid-2005 has reduced the total cost of these services to Midwest Air Group. Into-plane fuel prices increased 16.5% in third quarter 2006, averaging $2.34 per gallon versus $2.02 per gallon in third quarter 2005, resulting in a $1.1 million unfavorable price impact. Fuel consumption was virtually unchanged quarter over quarter.

The company ended the quarter with $91.3 million in unrestricted cash, up from $76.2 million on September 30, 2005 and down from $99.0 million at December 31, 2005. Capital spending – net of credits used to fund such spending – resulted in a cash outlay of $6.5 million year to date and consisted primarily of the acquisition of one Fairchild 328JET and additional spare parts for the Boeing 717 fleet.

Highlights and Outlook
In the third quarter of 2006:
Midwest Airlines was awarded a five-year contract to transport express, first class and priority mail for the U.S. Postal Service. The airline has been carrying mail since 1985.
Midwest introduced a confirmed standby option, which for a $25 service fee allows passengers whose travel plans change to receive a confirmed seat on an earlier or later flight the same day. The option applies to refundable and most nonrefundable tickets, and award tickets.
Midwest Airlines came out on top in the 9th annual Business Travel Awards poll conducted by Condé Nast Traveler magazine, placing first in the single-class domestic airline category. Midwest also earned the highest scores in three of the five categories making up the single-class airline category: Seat Comfort/Legroom, Food, and Cabin Service.
Readers of Ingram's, Kansas City's business magazine, named Midwest Airlines the best airline serving Kansas City.
Midwest Airlines was awarded the Diamond Award, the top honor in the Federal Aviation Administration's Aviation Maintenance Technician awards program. The award recognizes exemplary training of maintenance technicians.
Midwest Airlines partnered with Abanco International to offer credit card payments for Best Care Cuisine onboard meals, alcoholic beverages and digEplayerTM entertainment units on Midwest flights. With the introduction of the new system in mid-November, onboard sales will be entirely via credit card.
Skyway Airlines appointed David C. Reeve chairman of the board, president and chief executive officer. Reeve originally joined Skyway in 1997 as president and chief executive officer, serving in that capacity until he moved to Midwest Airlines as senior vice president of operations in 1998. In 1999, he was named chairman of Skyway's board of directors.
Skyway Airlines signed letters of intent to acquire two Fairchild 328JET regional jets. One jet was purchased in third quarter 2006 and will enter scheduled service in the fourth quarter; the other was purchased in October 2006 and will enter service in first quarter 2007. Also in the third quarter, Skyway terminated its lease on one Beech 1900D aircraft.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court upheld a state property tax exemption for airlines operating hub facilities in Wisconsin. The decision exempts Midwest and other airlines that meet specific service criteria from Wisconsin state property taxes on aircraft and associated equipment.

In the fourth quarter of 2006:
Midwest Airlines reinstated its nonstop service between Milwaukee and Ft. Lauderdale and added a second nonstop daily frequency to its Kansas City-Orlando service.
Midwest Air Group increased the number of directors on its board from eight to nine, and elected James R. Boris to the new position. He is chairman of JB Capital Management, LLC, a private investment firm.
Midwest Airlines re-launched Best Care News, its newsletter for frequent flyers, in a monthly all-electronic format -- reaching more people, more frequently, in a more cost-effective manner.
Additionally, Midwest plans to enhance schedules and upgrade equipment on a number of routes:
On November 1, Midwest Connect will reinstate Milwaukee-Columbus midday service and upgrade that service to regional jet. On November 16, the airline will upgrade Milwaukee-Dayton service to regional jet and add service on Saturdays. It will also upgrade the Milwaukee-Appleton market to regional jet, with the exception of one Saturday-morning roundtrip, and upgrade one additional Milwaukee-Grand Rapids roundtrip daily.
On December 3, Midwest Airlines will enhance its flight schedule in two key markets: Kansas City-New York La Guardia with a fifth daily nonstop and Kansas City-Milwaukee with an eighth daily nonstop. In addition to offering travelers a more flexible and convenient schedule on the routes, the new service also provides significantly more connection opportunities through Kansas City.
Midwest Airlines will enhance service between Milwaukee and Florida as part of its seasonal offerings, including daily nonstop service between Milwaukee and Ft. Myers through April 30, 2007. Midwest will also add second daily nonstop roundtrips to Ft. Myers, Ft. Lauderdale and Tampa from November 16, 2006 through April 30, 2007.
Midwest will launch new daily nonstop service between Kansas City and Ft. Myers, offering one daily roundtrip starting November 1, 2006. The airline will also add nonstop daily frequency between Kansas City and Ft. Lauderdale. The additional Ft. Lauderdale service will be offered November 1, 2006 through April 30, 2007.

Hoeksema said the company is optimistic, but cautious, as it looks forward. "We're certainly encouraged by the positive revenue and cost trends we've seen, though high fuel costs are an ever-present concern," he said. "We remain committed to maintaining profitability by doing what we do best -- running a cost-efficient organization that is dedicated to providing travelers with an exceptional travel experience."


This document contains forward-looking statements that may state the company's or management's intentions, hopes, beliefs, expectations or predictions for the future. Words such as "expect," "anticipate," "believe," "estimate," "goal," "objective" or similar words are intended to identify forward-looking statements. It is important to note that the company's actual results could differ materially from projected results due to the risk factors described in Item 1A. Risk Factors in the company's "Annual Report on Form 10-K" for the year ended December 31, 2005.

Note to employees: Financial charts for this news release are available on YXNet via a link on the home page.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:15 pm

Good to see. Apparently you can make a little money with a premium product (and once Northwest retreats out of town).  Smile
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:23 pm

Great news...I love Midwest! Best of luck to them  Smile
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:51 am

a couple of notes from today's conference call with analysts. No particular order or importance:

Free Cash: $91.3 mil vs. $76.2 mil - year over year

$2.29 avg fuel price for quarter

Aircraft deliveries are complete on the 717 with a total of 25 units delivered.

Expenses for quarter $4.7 mil, mostly for purchase of 1 used D328 and parts (actual cost $4 mil?)

50 seat flying - Still hope to decide on supplier by end of 2006

Onboard sales (food, entertainment) will be all Credit Card by mid-November 06.

Cargo revenue up 73% y/y. Primarly due to USPS. Just signed a 5-year deal with USPS.

12th D328 delivered earlier this month (2nd of 2 purchased used). No further discusions are active for additional units. They did sound somewhat intersted in additional frames.

Still doing fleet planning for MD-80 replacement, soonest replacement would be flying for YX would be in 2008. No further color was offered as to flavor.

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Not a ton of new details here, most of this already known by YX devotees.

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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:55 am

Glad to hear it! Midwest is by far one of the best airlines I have flown with. I just wish they flew to more places than they do. As things are, I don't get to fly with them that often.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:59 am

KUDOS to Midwest!!!  bigthumbsup 

I have yet to fly them and experience their signature service. I wish they flew to more cities from PIT other than MKE and MCI...
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:07 am

Bravo! I wouldnt expect any less from the best airline in the nation. More of the reason NOT to let anyone aquire YX.
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:28 am

Good job Midwest. Hopefully soon you'll be posting even bigger profits.
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:34 am

Excellent news. The non believers are eating every word they had regarding the failure of YV.
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:12 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 8):
Excellent news. The non believers are eating every word they had regarding the failure of YV.

You mean YX?

...don't ever insult Midwest again by referring to them with Mesa's code.  Wink
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:54 pm

Very good news for MKE's hometown airline. I am disappointed though, it will take over a year to replace the MD-80s. Winter is coming and those plane's reliability drops considerably when it gets cold. But, they are probably trying to bolster their free-cash before buying replacements.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:46 pm

Was it about 1.5 years ago I was being blasted on this fourm and being told that FL would be taking over YX???? Hmmmmm. Who earned a profit this qtr?
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:00 am

Quoting N917ME (Reply 11):
Was it about 1.5 years ago I was being blasted on this fourm and being told that FL would be taking over YX???? Hmmmmm. Who earned a profit this qtr?

I remember that! So far, so good!  Smile
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:57 am

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 10):
MD-80s. Winter is coming and those plane's reliability drops considerably when it gets cold.

is this true? how do you mean?
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:12 am

One of the reasons YX is replacing the MD-80s is because they tend to go mechanical. this is especially the case when the weather gets cold. Because they use these airplanes to fly longer routes, schedules back up quickly.

I fly MKE>TPA a lot. I switched to NW on that route with a connection in MEM because the YX flights were always late whenever I went. I absolutely love the Signature service and flying the 717s. But, I ignore the Saver Service and MD-80s if my travel plans are time sensative. Been burned too often.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:47 am

Quoting JBo (Reply 9):
You mean YX?

...don't ever insult Midwest again by referring to them with Mesa's code. Wink

OOOOPS! LOL! How in the heck did I do that. I can be excused, since YX does not fly to SEA!!!! Speaking of, would LOVE to see them venture up here. We need an airline with some class!  Smile
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:49 am

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 10):
Winter is coming and those plane's reliability drops considerably when it gets cold.



Quoting Concentriq (Reply 13):
is this true? how do you mean?

It is not true. Actually it is the opposite. The dispatch reliability of the -80's most years goes up in the winter and down in the summer. You will notice I said most years as this is not always true, but looking back from 2003 to this year so far it is. Take last year for example the best months were Feb, Mar, May, Nov, and Dec. So you can see the cold doesn't really matter. It is their age more than anything.

717's on the other hand seem to be opposite where it goes up in the summer and down in the winter. They really don't like the cold.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:41 am

considering that MD-80 has been around for quite some time, i find it hard to believe that cold has anything to do with reliability (any older plane for that matter). at 30kilofeet, it is much colder than the coldest day in MKE (well, most of the times). If diff in temperatures of say 20C in summer and -5C in winter would affect reliability of the plane it would be a BIG problem. and it would be talked about much more.

No disrespect meant AT ALL to TVNWZ and to Sideflare75, but I think your reliability data it is mostly speculation. Could the weather in general be slowing down the operations?

If I have time, I will get data at BTS.gov and weather.com and try doing some analysis comparing on-time performance of AAs MD80s (a lot of data) on sunny day in winter vs sunny day in summer over say 15-20 years. would be an interesting data set
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:59 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 15):
OOOOPS! LOL! How in the heck did I do that. I can be excused, since YX does not fly to SEA!!!! Speaking of, would LOVE to see them venture up here. We need an airline with some class! Smile

The company themselves has said they want SEA when they get the new aircraft. I would imagine that SEA will be among the first new cities to open with new YX aircraft.  Smile
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:04 am

Quoting N917ME (Reply 11):
Was it about 1.5 years ago I was being blasted on this fourm and being told that FL would be taking over YX???? Hmmmmm. Who earned a profit this qtr?

Turning a profit just makes it a more desirable partnership...  Wink
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:20 am

I do think that the Midwest M80 flights are more prone to delays in winter, and sometimes rather big ones, than the 717 fleet. But I don't think it's due to the aircraft itself. There are several reasons for this.

(1) Winter is peak season for the M80 Saver markets, especially later winter into spring. Midwest schedules all of their M80's for long days with few generous turn times built in. Not unrealistic, but aggressive. Other times of year the M80 tends to be somewhat less aggressively scheduled becuase demand is lower.

(2) Because the M80 is the largest aircraft in the fleet -- significantly so -- it's usuallally impossible to substitute. The 116-seat Signature M80 and 74-seat charter M80 can sometimes be pulled into service if there are rolling delays or a big maint problem with the 717. If a Saver aircraft has a similar issue, trying to swap in a different M80 can mean dozens of passengers to bump. Other times of year when demand is lower, when there is a delay to recover from there may be a particular trip that day booked lower so a different M80 can be subbed without issue.

(3) During the winter/spring peak, it's not uncommon for there to be little if any backup or "protection" on other airlines. So when there is a significant delay, there's no way to accomodate passengers from a cancelled flight, or even the few dozen that would be bumped if they downgrade to a different M80. So there's little choice but to fly everything no matter how late things run. Other times of year they can more easily cancel a flight to keep the rest of the Saver system on schedule.

So I don't think that it's the actual mechanical reliability of the M80 that is so much different. It's that routine mechanical issues that also happen with the 717 are easier to absorb and deflect. And other delays which are not mechanical (like snow events) end up rippling throught the M80 schedule all day, even long after the weather has cleared. The time these weather events happen coincides with the time the M80's work the hardest.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:55 am

717's do not do well in the cold. We have had many issues with our kick off flight when our old ramp vendor decided to use our heat cart on their aircraft. The 717 is a great aircraft for short frequent hops, but the aircraft does not like to be cold.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:03 am

Quoting Concentriq (Reply 17):
No disrespect meant AT ALL to TVNWZ and to Sideflare75, but I think your reliability data it is mostly speculation.

No disrespect taken but I got that info from looking at the data back to 2003. Our reliability department tracks all maintenance delays and keeps all kinds or fancy charts and graphs. I went with the data that was delays greater than 15 minutes and/or cancellations. They also track delays less than 5 minutes I think. So in looking at that it was pretty obvious that most of the lowest months were not in the winter. And yes the 717's were pretty much opposite. Those computers don't like the cold and the APU is well known for not starting if it is too cold.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:45 pm

let the new jets arrive. I will be on one of the mad dogs in Jan for my son's soccer championship in MCO. I do get to take the 717 at home unless there is a schedule change.
My gut tell me that the new jets will be Airbus no rhyme or reason for it just a get feeling.
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:34 am

Quoting Concentriq (Reply 17):
No disrespect meant AT ALL to TVNWZ and to Sideflare75, but I think your reliability data it is mostly speculation. Could the weather in general be slowing down the operations?

More like personal experience and comments at the time of delay from the CS agents and ramp rats that come up to thaw out. In my life it was a series of 10 trips to TPA, LAS, PHX that sent me to Red Tail.

Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 20):
do think that the Midwest M80 flights are more prone to delays in winter, and sometimes rather big ones, than the 717 fleet. But I don't think it's due to the aircraft itself. There are several reasons for this.

This is fair. I have been delayed for some of the reasons you cited. And you can add ineptitude from whomever decides the gate a plane goes into. It took 2 hours to get a plane from the hanger to the gate because dispatch/whomever kept pushing another 717 into the gate delaying the scheduled flight for over 2 hours.

There is also the point that YX corporate claims the 80s are not as reliable and gives that as one reason they are looking for a different type.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:41 am

Quoting Sideflare75 (Reply 16):
717's on the other hand seem to be opposite where it goes up in the summer and down in the winter. They really don't like the cold.



Quoting N917ME (Reply 21):
717's do not do well in the cold. We have had many issues with our kick off flight when our old ramp vendor decided to use our heat cart on their aircraft. The 717 is a great aircraft for short frequent hops, but the aircraft does not like to be cold.

Do these aircraft actually say "we hate the cold?"  Wink
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:52 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 25):
Do these aircraft actually say "we hate the cold?"

Yes, you just have to listen carefully! LOL.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:21 am

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 24):
sent me to Red Tail

That still is not saying much. out of MKE it is YX or UA all the way.
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:10 pm

I am really curious now to see how temperature affects the reliability. I posted a separate topic in techops to discuss this: Temperature And Reliability Of Equipment (by Concentriq Oct 30 2006 in Tech Ops)

Quoting Sideflare75 (Reply 22):
So in looking at that it was pretty obvious that most of the lowest months were not in the winter. And yes the 717's were pretty much opposite.

I agree, this seems to point out that MD80 reliability goes down with temperature as opposed to B717.

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 24):
There is also the point that YX corporate claims the 80s are not as reliable and gives that as one reason they are looking for a different type.

If true, Very interesting. How does AA cope with that i wonder?
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RE: Midwest Airlines Reports 3Q Profit!

Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:41 pm

Quoting Concentriq (Reply 28):
I agree, this seems to point out that MD80 reliability goes down with temperature as opposed to B717.

Sorry if my post wasn't clear but the statistics I looked at showed higher dispatch reliability in the winter as opposed to the summer on the -80's. 717's are pretty much opposite meaning their reliability goes down in the winter. The statistics I looked at were strictly maintenance delays, nothing else.

As Knope pointed out there are probably many reasons for delays that have nothing to do with the aircraft itself. Probably having such a small but mixed fleet of -80's doesn't help. Even that can make a simple swap a real pain.

Hopefully if and when we get some new aircraft, whatever they will be, they will all be the same and some of the simple problems will be fixed.

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