stlbham
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Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Fri Jul 07, 2000 12:16 am

In in earlier post the Chautauqua web site was posted and I went to look. I remember Chautauqua annoucing they were going to start Regional Jet service out of STL, Doing business as TWE. When going to this link which shows there route map it only shows turbo prop service out of STL. Am I color bling with their legend on the map or do they really not have any RJ service out of STL?

http://www.flychautauqua.com/flights.asp

Regards

Brian
 
stlbham
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RE: Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Fri Jul 07, 2000 12:18 am

Whoops!! i put the wrong link here is the right one i was talking about

http://www.flychautauqua.com/destFlash.asp

Regards

Brian
 
Cody
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RE: Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Fri Jul 07, 2000 1:01 am

There are no RJ flights as of yet. There will be to Shreveport, Cincinnatti, and Pensacola eventually. Right now, just SAABS to Waterloo, Sioux City, Lexington, Ft. Wayne, and Lincoln. I look for STL to expand more very soon. Rumor has it that several flight lines will be relocated from Ft. Wayne to St. Louis.
 
J32driver
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RE: Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Fri Jul 07, 2000 3:43 am

You expect the Chatauqua Ops in STL to expand "very soon"... yeah, probably about the same time TSA runs head long into SERIOUS labor problems with its pilots. Probably about the 13th or so.............. Stay tuned boys and girls!
 
crjmech
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RE: Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Fri Jul 07, 2000 4:10 am

Ever since I saw that Chautauqua would be flying Trans States old routes here in California, I've had this sneaking suspicion.....and this thread proves it. TWA appears to have woke up to the fact that TSA sucks and is beginning to replace them. I thought that their problems with their flight crews was over, but J32driver alludes to more difficulty ahead. Strike now, brother! Down with Hulas! Good luck Chautauqua!
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acvitale
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RE: Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Fri Jul 07, 2000 4:52 am

Chautauqua and Corporate are both expanding with TWA. Overall TSA is no longer shrinking but, Chautauqua has options on quite a number of ERJs and additional S340s

Corporate has stated they would like to fly additional routes but, they want to also get into the 30 seater market with TWA.

Look for an annoucement along those lines when the new focus city annoucement is made.
 
FlyPNS1
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RE: Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Fri Jul 07, 2000 5:49 am

Any idea on what the chances that Pensacola might actually see Chautauqua service? If so, what kind of time frame are we looking at? 3 months.....6 months....a year?

I fly regularly between PNS and ORD and I always have to connect since we don't have direct service. Usually, I go through ATL with DL, but I would be willing to give TWA a try if they begin service with Chautauqua. Connecting via STL would be a change of scenery from ATL.
 
Cody
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RE: FlyPNS1

Fri Jul 07, 2000 6:33 am

I really don't know a start up date for PNS. I am just relaying what everyone around me is saying......but it should be soon!
 
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Attention Cody!

Fri Jul 07, 2000 7:33 am

Cody, you say the rumor has several flight lines relocating from FWA to STL. I know they have a crew-base and MX hub there and offer 5 scheduled Saab's to STL and 7 to PIT. Of all that, what is affected if your rumor pans out. Will the crew and/or MX base close, and will the service be affected? I was hoping for RJs from FWA to both STL and PIT. Could you please be specific, I am VERY curious. Thanks!!!

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acvitale
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RE: Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Fri Jul 07, 2000 7:50 am

Cody, I had not heard anything like your rumor. Although possible I do not see the benefit to Chautauqua.

As far as PNS. It was/is on the list of TW ERJ cities. However TWA has gotten smart and is shifting resources. Chautauqua is adding commuter ERJs in some marginal TWA markets like CVG and FWA where DC-9s and MD80s were too much. Those planes are being reallocated to new routes and expanding better existing ones.

As a result Chautauqua will likely have to take a few more ERJs before they begin the genuine new city growth that will include markets like PNS and AVL

Rockford Il is a priority and will be a mixed TWA/Chautauqua market before PNS. Timeframe for PNS is likely to be 6 mos or more.

TSA ERJs will be interesting. TWA is having issues with TSA and I am not sure if we will continue to see new TSA cities continue to come on line.

One rumor I had heard was that Southwest would like out of STL due to congestion and would like in to Mid America. If so the East Terminal would be up for grabs and one could expect a massive shuffle of resources and carriers at STL.

The Main Terminal could become all TWA Term A for commuter Operations and Terms B-C-D could become all TWA. East Terminal would service all other airlines.

Another proposal has TWA taking A-B-C-D and moving commuters to the far D gates near the east terminal with OALs moving to the east terminal.
 
acvitale
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RE: Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Fri Jul 07, 2000 8:22 am

I think the Chautauqua effect can be seen in the post I just made called NEW TWE Service...

3 new ERJ markets announced by Chautauqua.
 
Cody
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RE: Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Fri Jul 07, 2000 11:58 am

No the FWA maintenance base is not going to close anytime soon. You will probably see no reduction in service at all. The only thing I have heard, and this was just one of those rumors, is that the lines that pilots bid will shift some to STL. So instead of a FWA crew going to do STL work, a STL crew would come to FWA. No plans to close anything at FWA including the crew base. It will just be more of a USAir base than a TWA one. this is just a crazy rumor that really means nothing to the traveling public. They will see no difference.
 
acvitale
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RE: Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Fri Jul 07, 2000 9:34 pm

I can see the benefits for shifting a crew base to STL as their flying from STL continues to increase. Does anyone know if they have IND, PIT, and LGA as crew bases?
 
Cody
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RE: Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Fri Jul 07, 2000 11:47 pm

here are the Chautauqua crew bases. Hagerstwon, Maryland, Laguardia, PIT, IND, STL, and FWA. Hagerstown is the smallest and PIT is the biggest.
 
stlbham
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RE: Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Sat Jul 08, 2000 3:41 am

I have just a few question regarding this thread. The first one is where are or (is) the regional jet(s) flying in TWA colors currently flying out of? My second question is why would TWA want to take over terminal B at Lambert for their full size jets? I believe this concourse is to small for full size jets and only has i believe one or two jetways that are now accepting twa full size jet? I dont believe that the other carriers would be happy moving to east terminal, although it is the newest thing in the airport. To far away from all the rest of the airport, althought its a short ride on the metro link.

Regards

Brian
 
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MidAmerica

Mon Jul 10, 2000 3:01 am

Southwest is moving to MidAmerica Airport? While this means, some room may open up at Lambert for TW, what does this mean on a competitive scale? I know little of this MidAmerica Airport except that its a Pan Am destination and its quite small. Locationwise how does it compare to Lambert? How large is MidAmerica, would it have room for WN to expand, and challenge more TW mainline flights? Doesn't it have like 9 gates total? If WN does move, will more airlines follow suit?

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acvitale
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RE: Chautauqua Flights Out Of STL

Tue Jul 11, 2000 5:51 am

The Southwest move is hardly a done deal only under consideration.

Terminal B currently handles 3 jets but, can go back to the original (PRE TWE configuration and handle 12 jetways/gates)

The other airlines for the most part would love to be able to operate out of the East Terminal which offers all the ammeneties of a new terminal.

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