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"Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:10 pm

South Africa's new kid on the block, Mango,  Yeah sure will start operations on November 15, 2006 with 2 leased 738's from SA. Initially the airline will fly up to 28 daily flights between JNB and CPT. Fares in the region of R200.00 will be available until the end of December.


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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:04 am

Thanks for the info. Have they got a website yet? A google search just comes up with things about fruit production!  silly  I get to CPT on 17th Nov so looking forward to seeing some 'Mangoes' Big grin
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:09 am

Quoting Airchabum (Reply 1):
Have they got a website yet?

Apparently the website will be active from 00h00 (local time) - flymango.com.....  Wink


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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:30 am

"Mango", huh? Well, I like mangos, mango margaritas, mango mojitos, mango salsa, mango chutney...it's a silly name, but I like it!

Website's nice and colourful - one objection, though...on the "About Us" page, they state: "Mango will be operating the ultra-safe Boeing B737-800 aircraft on all routes. It is, by the way, the preferred aircraft of all major Low Cost Airlines. " They might want to have a talk with, oh, say, JetBlue or Frontier about that assumption...  Silly
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:09 am

Mango?

Kinda cute, actually. There were some others in the recent past that were downright stupid. Like SONG. And SNOWFLAKE. And the crowning jewel of stupid airline names .. BMIBABY.

Me like MANGO!
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:30 am

Why do I picture those old Mango sketches from Saturday Night Live?
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:43 am

What a wonderful, colorful and tasty name !!! Makes me feel flying them and take a bite at one of their aircraft right away !!!

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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:26 am

You cannot touch the mango.

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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:54 pm

Quoting MrPIBB (Reply 4):
Kinda cute, actually. There were some others in the recent past that were downright stupid. Like SONG. And SNOWFLAKE. And the crowning jewel of stupid airline names .. BMIBABY.

The name Mango leans more towards the cool side. Besides Mangos are colorful and tasty, yummy. I mean you're right, nothing as silly and dumb as Snowflake, Click (by Mexicana), BMIbaby etc. Somehow I got used to Song..

There is (or was), another airline called Mango Airlines in Africa that uses An-12s, one of which crashed recently. This is not a very well known opererator, and only flies cargo I think.
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:22 pm

I just received some pictures of one of the aircraft in the paintshop from someone who works at SAA and all I can say is....wild!
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:03 am

Quoting Andz (Reply 9):
I just received some pictures of one of the aircraft in the paintshop from someone who works at SAA and all I can say is....wild!

Anyway you coud share those with us?  Wink

Any ideas on the reg's of these aircraft? Where have they come from?

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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:37 am

Quoting SA006 (Reply 10):
Where have they come from?

They are on lease from SA. Unfortunately I don't have the reg's.


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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:54 am

Quoting SA006 (Reply 10):
Anyway you coud share those with us?

Sorry Zak you know the rules about owning/posting pictures, I'm sure they will see the light of day soon!
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:46 am

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 2):
Quoting Airchabum (Reply 1):
Have they got a website yet?

Apparently the website will be active from 00h00 (local time) - flymango.com.....


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Thanks SA7700  bigthumbsup  Hoping to fit a trip to DUR whilst I'm in SA so I'll try them out. Look forward to seeing the colour scheme...should be funky if the website is anything to go by!

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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:45 am

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 8):
There is (or was), another airline called Mango Airlines in Africa that uses An-12s, one of which crashed recently. This is not a very well known opererator, and only flies cargo I think.

Good thing!
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:07 pm

Prices are good, I checked the fare for a trip I am doing with SAA at the end of November, return airfare (JNB-CPT) all in is ZAR 698.00.

This compares with:
SAA ZAR 976.00
Kulula.com ZAR 1,098.00
1Time: ZAR 998.00
British Airways Comair: ZAR 1,512.00
Nationwide ZAR 1,215.00
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:22 pm

This compares with:
SAA ZAR 976.00
Kulula.com ZAR 1,098.00


How does this work, Kulula.com is suppose to be the other low fare carrier in South Africa but many a time i also found that they are more expensive than SAA. The Question arises how long will Mango keep up these fares as the specials they have now is apparently only till December. With a difference of only R278.00 on their special compaired to SAA's normal fare, what will be so low cost if January arrives.
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:00 pm

Quoting MrPIBB (Reply 4):
Kinda cute, actually. There were some others in the recent past that were downright stupid. Like SONG. And SNOWFLAKE.



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 8):
The name Mango leans more towards the cool side. Besides Mangos are colorful and tasty, yummy. I mean you're right, nothing as silly and dumb as Snowflake, Click (by Mexicana), BMIbaby etc. Somehow I got used to Song..

HEY! What's wrong with Snowflake?!?!?!!! Well, I like it anyway..  Smile Btw SAS still uses the Snowflake name for their Economy Class on all their European flights..

Mango is very cute! Like it! Looking forward to some pics...

Good luck to them!

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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:41 pm

Quoting N328KF (Reply 7):

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the thread title.
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:16 pm

Quoting Voyager (Reply 16):
How does this work, Kulula.com is suppose to be the other low fare carrier in South Africa but many a time i also found that they are more expensive than SAA

I always fly SAA cos they are always the cheapest when I want to fly (and my wife works for them so I am supporting myself indirectly too!)

check this fare comparison from a couple of weeks ago: SAA LCC.... Why Bother? (by Andz Oct 23 2006 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:04 pm

Quoting Andz (Reply 19):
I always fly SAA cos they are always the cheapest when I want to fly (and my wife works for them so I am supporting myself indirectly too!)

It doesn't make much sense then, if SAA is already competing effectively and offering very cheap fares, what's the point of forming a low-cost division? It seems legacy carriers just never learn from eachother, remember Song by Delta? Or Air Canada's low cost arm? Legacy carriers should just revise their business model and cost structure to offer low cost flights while maintaining their legacy status and appeal to business travelers.

I guess SAA's real motive is to start a fruity little airline, at little cost, to drive out competition, only to dissolve Mango when this task has been done. Quite anti-competitive if you ask me.

However, I've read somewhere Mango is pushing for BASA renegotiation with some African countries including Kenya and Nigeria, probably to start low-cost flights to Lagos and Nairobi, therefore stimulating traffic. This wouldn't seem too likely in the foreseeable future given those countries' reluctance to implement the Yamousoukro agreement in full swing.
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:53 pm

I guess in the longer term Mango can make a profit charging around 1000 Rand on a typical JNB-CPT trip, while they wouldn't if it were on SAA.
- Food for purchase will turn a profit, the meals of SAA are a cost.
- Cheaper crews (lower wage and 4 F/A's instead of 5 or 6 on a 738) for Mango
- Less other indirect costs like hotel stays when passengers miss the connection to a last flight of the day.
- A few extra seats to sell on a typical 738
Elements like this really make a difference.
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:17 pm

They are not related to this lot are they !!  eyepopping 


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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 1

Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:00 pm

1st photos here!
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:29 am

Quoting BlooBirdie (Reply 23):
1st photos here!

Stelios will be so jaloux.... not even his planes are this orange...  Smile

Had expected something a bit more "tropical" than just orange and black/white/green though... but looks cool, still!

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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:41 am

Quoting BlooBirdie (Reply 23):
1st photos here!

Oh my... I love it!

Reminds me of Nandos chicken... mmm... nandos...
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:01 am

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 24):
Had expected something a bit more "tropical"

Well things could turn a little messy!

Gidon Novick, kulula.com joint ceo said: “We will remain price leaders in the market even if we create a bit of a fruit salad in the process.”
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:08 am

Quoting BlooBirdie (Reply 26):
We will remain price leaders in the market

I'll believe that when kulula can actually quote me a price cheaper than SAA on a route and times and dates that I want. Haven't seen it once.
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:58 am

Quoting BlooBirdie (Reply 26):
Well things could turn a little messy!

Gidon Novick, kulula.com joint ceo said: “We will remain price leaders in the market even if we create a bit of a fruit salad in the process.”

 Smile

Intentional or just a bad choice of words..???

Anyways I wondered what he meant by this:

"Gidon said R100m of taxpayers’ money would now be used to subsidise Mango’s losses for the first two years."

How does that work..?

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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:05 am

Success Mango! Your livery look very colourfull and promising!! Finally some vibrant colours in the sky again. Very nice job...



 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:06 am

Quoting Andz (Reply 27):
I'll believe that when kulula can actually quote me a price cheaper than SAA on a route and times and dates that I want. Haven't seen it once.

I'v booked Kulula.com one way from PLZ-CPT at the end of NOV and it was way cheaper than SAA, R1287 for 3 of us one way.

Also booked JNB-PLZ on 1time as that was the cheapest of the lot, and offered a much better connection from our International flight than Kulula.com, also R1287 for 3 of us one way (Only just noticed both sectors are the same price !!).

Mango are not really any use to me at the moment as they don't fly to PLZ yet although I hope they will one day.

I just wish that BA would start operating the PLZ-CPT route so that I can get ID-90's as at the moment SAExpress has an embargo for staff travel and Nationwide doesn't have an agreement so we can't get tickets issued on them (although they do take ID-90 tickets) so the only routing I can get tickets on is CPT-JNB-PLZ !!!. crazy 

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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:18 am

Quoting Owleye (Reply 29):
Success Mango! Your livery look very colourfull and promising!! Finally some vibrant colours in the sky again. Very nice job...

Same pics I have... are you aware of the rules about posting pictures? Did you take these?

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 28):
Anyways I wondered what he meant by this:

"Gidon said R100m of taxpayers’ money would now be used to subsidise Mango’s losses for the first two years."

How does that work..?

SAA is state owned, therefore paid for by taxpayers, Mango belongs to SAA.
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:26 am

Quoting Andz (Reply 31):
SAA is state owned, therefore paid for by taxpayers, Mango belongs to SAA.

Ahaaaa.... goodmorning Kevin!.. Didn't know that.. so Mango is an LCC-spinoff from an old legacy??? Oh yeah, they've been succesful!!  confused   confused  Zip, Song, Snowflake.. OKay, guess there are few not-so-unsuccesful ones out there also... and Go! was a good investment for BA after all..

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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:36 am

Just thought, suprised nobody has photoshoped those pictures to add another O to the name !!!.

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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:43 am

lol wow that's a rather strange scheme. Plenty of color though!

Not really my idea of a good mango taste, but it sure is cool, and weird  Smile
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 1

Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:55 am

Mango got tango'd.

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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:01 am

One word on the color scheme: LOUD
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:19 pm

The bird was visible in hanger 7E at JNB when we taxied out to 03L yesterday afternoon.


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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:28 pm

What's the registration of this aircraft?

Was it only in the paint-shop or was it also on maintenance?
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:07 pm

And now; in all its gory glory:


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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:57 pm

Quoting BlooBirdie (Reply 39):
And now; in all its gory glory:

If their intention was to blind people with the shocking orange colour, they have succeeded... I can only imagine what it is going to be like during a sunny day!


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Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:11 am



South Africa isn't even in the top-ten of mango production worldwide.  Smile
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:08 am

Very interesting livery. Certainly stands out I must say...Anyone know when the next 738 will be "arriving" from SAA?

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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:12 am

Wait until you see the other side, the livery is assymetrical.
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:58 am

Pretty cool colours, though I wonder if they looked to the US for inspiration:

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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:39 am

To compare the left side with the right side of the fuselage this illustration shows very clearly the a-symetric Mango livery. Congratulations to Mango and their design company. Well done!

http://www.liladesign.com/Mango-LilaDesign.jpg

Note: Lila Design did not create the Mango brand and livery but only made this illustration for this thread.

[Edited 2006-11-03 19:42:32]
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:08 am

I like the left side a lot more with the bigger titles on the rear. Pretty cool design indeed as OwlEye said.
 
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RE: "Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15

Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:19 am

Mango is more appropriate for a gay dating site rather than an airline's name, no?
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