amax1977
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EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:31 am

Hello,
When is EK going to receive it's first 777-2LR? I cannot wait for the non-stop SFO-DXB flight Big grin

Thanks.
 
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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:39 am

Quoting Amax1977 (Thread starter):
When is EK going to receive it's first 777-2LR? I cannot wait for the non-stop SFO-DXB flight

Well being they announced DXB-GRU doubt you will see SFO for some time.

Anyways i'm sure they wouldn't even consider a 772LR on that route. 772ER would do the range.
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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:41 am

Quoting Boeingfever777 (Reply 1):
Anyways i'm sure they wouldn't even consider a 772LR on that route. 772ER would do the range

It would not. There are winds and it is necessary to overfly a variety of countries in Africa, so the best route may not be a straight line. The ER would have a payload penalty.
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amax1977
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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:44 am

Quoting Boeingfever777 (Reply 1):
Anyways i'm sure they wouldn't even consider a 772LR on that route. 772ER would do the range.

Does EK currently have any 772ER? If so, why still they haven't launched the SFO-DXB route? Thanks.
 
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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:49 am

Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 3):

Does EK currently have any 772ER? If so, why still they haven't launched the SFO-DXB route? Thanks.

Their -200ER's certainly couldn't do the route...The -200LR will possibly used in the route..SFO is on the list of potential routes, but I dont' expect EK to serve SFO for another 4-5 years...

I would say ORD, LAX, IAH are first on the list...
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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:00 am

Quoting Amax1977 (Thread starter):
When is EK going to receive it's first 777-2LR? I cannot wait for the non-stop SFO-DXB flight

I don't think that you'll be saying that when you're stuck in the back of the plane mid flight!!
 
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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:24 am

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 2):
There are winds and it is necessary to overfly a variety of countries in Africa, so the best route may not be a straight line

This flight most certainly wouldn't go over Africa. It will be similar to SQ SIN-EWR flight and track very close over the north pole.
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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:49 am

Quoting Nz748 (Reply 6):
This flight most certainly wouldn't go over Africa. It will be similar to SQ SIN-EWR flight and track very close over the north pole.

Think the reference was to DXB-GRU.
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amax1977
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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:51 am

So going back to the main question: When is EK going to get it's first 772LR? Thanks.
 
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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:06 am

Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 8):
When is EK going to get it's first 772LR?

Ballparking it at July to August 2007. After Air Canada.
 
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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:16 am

EK´s 772-3ER / A343 / A345 can do SFO-DXB with eez, why the need for -LR?

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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:55 am

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 10):
EK´s 772-3ER / A343 / A345 can do SFO-DXB with eez, why the need for -LR?

Payload, payload and payload. Why fly an aircraft that has to fly the distance with less than the normal pax payload + bags, when you can fly the route with an aircraft that increases the revenue by a large margin?
 
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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:59 am

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 10):
EK´s 772-3ER / A343 / A345 can do SFO-DXB with eez, why the need for -LR?

DXB-SFO and Continental's EWR-HKG are roughly the same length (DXB-SFO is 32nm farther) and they would take similiar polar routes... I agree, I don't see why a 777-200ER or A340-500 couldn't fly this route. Heck, Singapore Airlines flies SIN-LAX with a 340-500.. albeit with limited payload, but this route is 600nm farther.
 
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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:30 am

EWR-HKG is also not taking off in 115 degree's no matter what time of the day it night it is!

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RE: EK's First 777-2LR Delivery

Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:50 am

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 12):
don't see why a 777-200ER or A340-500 couldn't fly this route. Heck, Singapore Airlines flies SIN-LAX with a 340-500.. albeit with limited payload, but this route is 600nm farther.

The A345 is not the direct replacement for the 772ER. The A343 is similar in payload and range to the 772ER, but the A345 is similar in range and payload to B772LR. Hence the argument that a 772LR is required for the route to have a successful payload.
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