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Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:34 am

Looks like Airtran is looking for help finding new cities.

Where would you like AirTran to fly?

http://www.airtran.com/nextcity/



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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:38 am

That's kind of cheesy, it's a canned list...you can't make your own suggestions  Sad
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:46 am

Many of the airports listed are small cities and could lead them to bang heads with US, DL and the like.
Albany, NY and Hartford, CT could be sleepers if they offered non-stops to ATL to connect with other flights or MCD for Mickeyworld.
By the way, NW Arkansas airport is near and for Bentonville, AR, the home of Wal-Mart. If they could offer 717 service from ATL, that would give a leg over AA, others who use (if I am correct) RJ's or via commuter divisions for the huge number of vendors for WalMart that travel there to get them to buy their products.
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:48 am

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 1):
make your own suggestions

yeah, I wish you could make your own suggestion, kind of like what B6 does.
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:50 am

FL did a similar thing a couple of years ago. Since PHL is my home airport, for this poll, I selected a few cities that presently aren't already served by WN; which is a bit tougher now than it was 2 years ago.
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:50 am

Hmmm...BDA and PSP aren't on the list. Oh, well.
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:53 am

Let them take a look at Canada, the Caribbean or Cenral America.
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:56 am

It's great to see my hometown airport as an option in AirTran's poll. FWA needs an LCC badly, and FL would fit the bill perfectly. So, not surprisingly, I picked FWA.
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:11 am

I have included what cities I feel have a REALISTIC opportunity for success (i.e Can fill a 717, does not cannibalize existing Airtran routes, LCC competition is manageable):

Albany, N.Y.
 checkmark  Albuquerque, N.M.
Allentown, Pa.
Austin, Texas
Baton Rouge, La.
Boise, Idaho
Burlington, VT
 checkmark  Charleston, S.C.
Charleston, W.Va.
Chattanooga, Tenn.
Chicago (O'Hare), Ill.
Cincinnati, Ohio
 checkmark  Des Moines, Iowa
Fort Wayne, Ind.
Grand Rapids, Mich.
Harrisburg, Pa.
 checkmark  Hartford, Conn.
Jackson, Miss.
Knoxville, Tenn.
Lexington, Ky.
 checkmark  Little Rock, Ark.
Louisville, Ky.
Manchester, N.H.
 checkmark  Nashville, Tenn.
 checkmark  Northwest Arkansas, Ark.
Oakland, Calif.
Oklahoma City, Okla.
Omaha, Neb.
 checkmark  Phoenix, Ariz.
 checkmark  Portland, Maine
Portland, Ore.
Providence, R.I.
 checkmark  Reno, Nev.
Roanoke, Va.
Sacramento, Calif.
Salt Lake City, Utah
 checkmark  San Antonio, Texas
San Diego, Calif.
San Jose, Calif.
 checkmark  San Juan, Puerto Rico
Shreveport, La.
Spokane, Wash.
 checkmark  St. Louis, Mo.
Syracuse, N.Y.
Tri-Cities, Tenn.
 checkmark  Tucson, Ariz.
Tulsa, Oka.
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, Pa.
Wilmington, N.C.

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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:22 am

they did this a few years ago and TYS was the #1 response.
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:24 am

Who won the last time they did this? Didn't BNA win? I'm pretty sure that the city that won did not end up getting service.
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:29 am

I think it was SRQ last time that won.
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:32 am

Awesome. ILM is on the list. we need something to bust on DL door. we could fill 3 717's a day or 2 to atl and 1 to mco.

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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:38 am

There. Thank you for pointing that out, Viva. That's one more vote for, you guessed it, SAN!

(Same thing as B6 has. I like the idea; getting input from non-FF and even non-current-customers.)

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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:42 am

Why isn't Cancun on that list?
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:14 am

I would think that SYR would be a front runner

ATL: DL is down to 342 seats. Plenty of room for growth.

BWi: currently no service

TPA: currently no service

MCO: currently b6 is on route with 156 seats-high o&d market

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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:24 am

Quoting ROCandTPA (Reply 15):
I would think that SYR would be a front runner

With ROC just a 90 miles down the road I would think SYR falls into that proverbial bigger fish to fry category.


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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:28 am

I put down San Diego, Phoenix, Nashville, and Louisville.

Why not? ;p


I think Ft. Wayne, Lexington, Fayetteville come under the "let's see where Allegiant might show up" category.
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:34 am

I'm sort of shocked that TUL/OKC are on this list. We're WN country to the hilt. It would be nice to see more LCC competition here, however, but I doubt it will happen.

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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:34 am

I voted for Phoenix. My two airports are PHX and MSP (which already has AirTran), and AirTran is the largest US-based airline to not serve PHX.
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:35 am

Quoting Vivavegas (Reply 8):
Nashville, Tenn.

Personally,I would love to see either BNA, CHA, TYS, or the tri cities get the service, but BNA would be a dogfight with WN on their hometurf, I'v flown into and out of BNA on a fairly regular basis and it appears that WN has a stronghold on that market, plus DL has a nice operation there. Tri Cities is too small for LCC service, same for CHA, they have new service from G4 starting soon, but I don't see the demand for it. TYS is the most likely of these four, TYS could also draw from CHA and the tri cities,it would also stop people from driving to BNA to get on WN. The only issue for TYS is whether or not someone wants to take a chance on it, the airport could use the compitition to drive down the fares

For comparison sake, here are some fares out of TYS
TYS-ATL 312$ on US, if you want non stop its 335$ on DL
TYS-DTW 300$ on US about 30$ more for non stop on NW
TYS-LAS 340$ on CO, AA, NW
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:41 am

Glad to see GRR on their not so short list........
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:48 am

Quoting AirMailer (Reply 14):
Why isn't Cancun on that list?

Because they actually received the route authority and announced service to CUN last Summer, but the start of has been delayed because of Hurricane Wilma last Summer.

I went with the following:

CHS
CVG
PHX
PDX
SAT
SLC
STL
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:48 am

What would really burn my bottom is the fact that whatever city FL starts.. they will probably start with at least 2 or 3 destinations.. but they have some cities in their route already that only have service to ATL.. why can't they add new destinations from some currently served cities..

MSY...
SAV...
MYR..
RDU...
etc.. why not try connecting some of those dots with some unserved routes..

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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:13 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 23):
why can't they add new destinations from some currently served cities..

A nation-wide and industry-wide question, ERJ. From a SAN perspective as an existing station, I say the same thing to WN, B6, US, etc.: why not connect the dots instead of the expense and uncertainty of opening new stations? In other words WN, give SAN new n/s to RNO, DEN and HOU rather than opening up IAD or MSP or some other place which SAN will probably not get any service to for a long time.

But from a SAN perspective as a potential new, unserved market, I hope FL will decide to come to SAN, from at least 2 markets, e.g., IND and ATL, and hopefully even more, such as MCO!

Growth is certainly a good thing, in fact, a must. But it needs to be slow and well thought out. It seems to me that FL is taking it slow and easy -- doing it right. B6 however, in my opinion, is digging themselves into a pit by doing too much growth too fast, given their current financial situation.

I guess as with most things, it's all a matter of your perspective.

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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:25 am

Pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaassssee come back/reconsider MDT!! You were days from agreeing to start service to ATL and offer affordable reasonable fares out of MDT to an airport with very good connectivity.
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:36 am

Quoting Vivavegas (Reply 8):
Phoenix, Ariz.



Quoting Vivavegas (Reply 8):
Tucson, Ariz.

Thank you! I voted for these two as well along with ABQ and SAN. Arizona is a big blank space that they need to fill.
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:18 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 2):
By the way, NW Arkansas airport is near and for Bentonville, AR, the home of Wal-Mart. If they could offer 717 service from ATL, that would give a leg over AA, others who use (if I am correct) RJ's or via commuter divisions for the huge number of vendors for WalMart that travel there to get them to buy their products.

AA does use mainline metal to both DFW and ORD a few times per day with Eagle mixed in. They also have Eagle service to LGA, LAX, and and STL at least.

And I voted for self interest in the polls: BTV, MHT, BDL, TUS, STL, and AUS. If BTV gets it, I have a feeling I'll be flying them semi-frequently to DFW.

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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:19 am

Quoting Vivavegas (Reply 16):
With ROC just a 90 miles down the road I would think SYR falls into that proverbial bigger fish to fry category.

I beg to differ. SYR needs expanded service, especially to Florida, where there is one single non-stop to MCO. During the winter, FLL and TPA could both fill- and with fares that would make the services profitable, too. B6's MCO flight is doing quite well for an off-peak period, and will surely be packed to the gills this winter. FL would do very well with 2 or 3x to ATL, 2x BWI, 1x MCO, 1x FLL, and maybe 1x TPA.
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:21 am

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 11):
think it was SRQ last time that won.

They came to SRQ only after the area ponied up some money to get them. The route is heavily subsidized. Maybe this is a way to get communities to open their check books and give FL money to fly there. They apparently have been big at that I am told.
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:29 am

Four words.
New Haven, Connecticut. PLEASE!
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:32 am

Funny ORD is on there but not JFK.

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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:37 am

Quoting MrPIBB (Reply 30):
Four words.
New Haven, Connecticut. PLEASE!

Four more words...

Need a Longer Runway...

Preach to your People, Mr Pibb.. they need another 2000' added.. at least..
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:46 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 32):
Need a Longer Runway...

Preach to your People, Mr Pibb.. they need another 2000' added.. at least..

D'OH !!
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:34 am

These were my votes:

1. MDT
2. ABE
3. Scranton/Wilkes Barre (SWB)?
4. CVG

[Edited 2006-10-31 03:35:17]
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:56 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 34):
3. Scranton/Wilkes Barre (SWB)?

AVP.  yes 
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:59 am

I voted for MHT. MHT has room to grow. The population in NH is growing and Delta pulling mainline service from MHT opens an opportunity for Airtran!
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:04 pm

AMA isnt on their list, F this!  Wink







J/K, i voted for ABQ, AUS, and SAT.
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:11 pm

Quoting MrPIBB (Reply 35):
AVP.

Ah, thanks for the code  Smile

Is that "yes" suppose to mean "agreement" as well?

Who in their right mind wants to schlep out to HPN to fly to ATL? The same with ABE ane especially MDT travelers. They would really bring a huge benefit to the travelers...

MDT can retain their pax instead of driving them out to markets like PHL or BWI for cheaper fares and can fly FL to ATL for a cheap fare...

CVG... Well they could use a LCC to lower fares there, but I don't think they'd fend all to well on CVG-ATL (hub-to-hub flying on DL), and ATL-pretty much anywhere are the big money makers for FL... Maybe if they did CVG-MDW or BWI, considering that FL is growing both markets. IND is a bit close to CVG, but eh, why not...
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:11 pm

I chose two, BOI and PDX for selfish reasons.
For BOI, I figure 3 flights/day, 1 ATL, 2 MDW or other vise versa.

DL seems to do well enough on their 1 ATL nonstop with a 738 that I think you could do well enough with a 737 or 717. But, DL is stopping the ATL flight Nov 1-Early May. But perhaps FL could pull in enough traffic.
As for MDW, I think FL could compete with UA's 1 mainline and one CR7 to ORD. CR7 is seasonal, I believe. I have seen quite a few MDW and MDW xfers when WN has their BOI-SLC-MDW trip every now and again. And with FL's extra in flight amenities, it may do ok.
For PDX, any would be good.

That's my opinion on this subject.
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:11 pm

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 31):
ORD

They already serve MDW. Why do they need ORD?
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:02 pm

Omaha Needs another airline! Midwest needs some competition in the Omaha area!
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:31 pm

I put SAN, Fort Wayne and Northwest Arkansas, AR.

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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:13 pm

STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
SJU
BNA
Next up: STL-OAK-RNO-LAS-ICT-STL
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:26 pm

Quoting Vivavegas (Reply 8):
San Juan, Puerto Rico

Me 2  thumbsup  DL has not had anyone competing with them on the non-stops from ATL to SJU ever since Kiwi went out of business in the 90's.
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:32 pm

My wish list is small:

Nashville & San Juan

True WN has a lock on things here in Nashville. I use WN numerous times a year down to Tampa/Orlando. It would be great to have AirTran here, I would certainly give them business. The wife goes back to San Juan twice a year so another option would be great.
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:08 am

Why they don't come at YUL. It can be nice to see Austrian at YUL.

[Edited 2006-10-31 16:09:24]
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:13 am

PVD especially since AA pulled out their mainline a few years ago, they have gates they use 3 times a day. I think they would choose PVD or MHT, because more people travel through PVD. And if FL comes then maybe B6 will follow.  Smile
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:13 am

Quoting Tys777 (Reply 20):
For comparison sake, here are some fares out of TYS
TYS-ATL 312$ on US, if you want non stop its 335$ on DL
TYS-DTW 300$ on US about 30$ more for non stop on NW
TYS-LAS 340$ on CO, AA, NW

Those fares are where they should be at, people need to stop paying less then 200-300 for a RT ticket, I mean southwest would say the same except they would say for just $150 and then in small letters *One way fare*. I love how Air Tran thinks they can operate in cities that everyone else can barely fill a regional jet. NW Arkansas is the only one of those small cities that I can see, NW does have DC-9's in XNA.
 
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RE: Airtran Looking For Help Finding New Cities!

Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:36 am

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 40):
They already serve MDW. Why do they need ORD?

I don't think they do, but it's on the list. It would probably go the way of AA and UA at MDW if they did serve it.

I was just wondering why they did not have JFK on the list if they have ORD. Kind of a B6 JFK-ORD competition thing. Just crossed my mind when I saw ORD on there.

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