nycfly75
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NW To FCO In 2007?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:05 am

Just wondering given the popularity of US-Italy routes this past summer, would NW reopen DTW-FCO next summer??
 
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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:38 am

Are there enough A330/DC10 to restart the route?
I remember NW flying to FCO until 2005


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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:46 am

That is a good question - I know most of the CO flights to FCO and MXP were jammed packed most of the summer, so I would imagine there is money to be made if they started the seasonal route again.
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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:56 am

Can the 757s with winglets make it to FCO from DTW? If they could they could keep it open year round. Then if it does well, maybe that would be a route for the 787s when they come on board.
 
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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:04 am

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 3):
Can the 757s with winglets make it to FCO from DTW?

No way. It just doesn't have the legs. Further, I understand that FCO is a leisure-oriented (read: low yield) market from the United States, meaning that the more Y seats, the better. Hence, the A330-300 (which did indeed fly the route before it was cut) would be the most suitable aircraft in NWA's current fleet. I don't see them adding the route back for Summer 2007, however they have recently announced new European service, so there may be hope yet.
 
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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:07 am

NASCAR: Yes, once the inflight refueling by airliners is approved and the 757 is equipped as needed. J/K kidding buddy. The 757 wouldn't get close to Italy.

I personlly flew DTW-FCO in WBC a few years ago and just loved it. I'd like to see them bring it back, but I'd be surprised if it comes back soon.

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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:41 pm

How many A332/A333 do they have now? 757s surely aren't able to fly to Italy from Detroit.

Quoting Mbm3 (Reply 2):
I know most of the CO flights to FCO and MXP were jammed packed most of the summer.

Yes, it's not a surprise. All the other american carriers serve Italy with success.

[Edited 2006-10-31 15:41:41]
 
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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:45 pm

Quoting LIPZ (Reply 6):
How many A332/A333 do they have now?

Currently stands as of 10/31 at 12 A330-300 and 10 A330-200
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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:23 am

Quoting DTW757 (Reply 7):
Currently stands as of 10/31 at 12 A330-300 and 10 A330-200

Actually its 11 and 11.
 
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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:08 am

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 8):
Actually its 11 and 11.

No that isn't correct. It is 12 -300's and 10 -200's N801NW-N812NW for the 300's and N851NW-N860NW are currently in the fleet. N860NW (series 200) was deliverred in late September and N812NW (series 300) was delivered last week.

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_inquiry.asp
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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:38 am

http://www.airlineroutemaps.com/USA/...orthwest_Airlines_europe_india.gif
Look at this updated NW European Network Map (with new services to BRU and DUS announced 2 weeks ago). There is FCO too!
 
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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:44 am

Didn't Alitalia fly DTW-FCO? If not, then I think Alitalia may open this route instead of NW and they can codeshare.
 
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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:38 am

Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 11):
Didn't Alitalia fly DTW-FCO? If not, then I think Alitalia may open this route instead of NW and they can codeshare

Yeah briefly in the late 1980s as a weekend charter, and also as cargo bringing in Cadillac Alantes.

They had a codeshare around 2000 when they were briefly a part of the "Wings Alliance", but it was always NW out of DTW.

Probably if they wanted to open up a DTW-FCO route year round, it would need to be done with Alitalia since it would only fill a 767-300 until Northwest gets the 787s. I know the DC-10s were filled in the summer, but I doubt they would do well in the winter.
 
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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:55 am

Quoting Nycfly75 (Reply 10):
Look at this updated NW European Network Map (with new services to BRU and DUS announced 2 weeks ago). There is FCO too!

As well as the BDL-AMS

Quoting Nycfly75 (Thread starter):
Just wondering given the popularity of US-Italy routes this past summer, would NW reopen DTW-FCO next summer??

We will most likely restart the DTW-FCO next summer. It was cancelled for this summer because of a shortage of A330's with the 4th AMS. But the A330 pilots i've flown with(including the ones on the BOM-AMS leg earlier today) do believe that FCO will be back next summer if the current A330 delivery schedule stays on track. We'll see.
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RE: NW To FCO In 2007?

Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:46 am

Quoting LIPZ (Reply 1):
Are there enough A330/DC10 to restart the route?

They have just retired the DC10 from transatlantic service out of MSP I believe... There is a thread about that on here...

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