MEACEDAR
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A/C Upgrades For Routes

Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:44 am

I was wondering if routes like MCO-LAX were going to upgraded with widebody A/C like the 763.

Will UA start using a 767 instead of their A320/321 for there flights for MCO-LAX?

Will DL start using a 767 instead of their 752 for there flights for MCO-LAX?

For AA, I really don't think they should even think about using a bigger A/C then the 737 or possibly the 757 because everytime I fly with them from MCO to LAX they flights are usually not even 60% full. With DL, it is always full and same with UA. UA and DL both serve LAX from MCO with 2 daily flights each, two in the morning and two in the evening. However, AA has one daily flight (use to be two) to LAX from MCO that leaves in the afternoon. What do you think about DL and UA upgrading their planes for this specific route.
 
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RE: A/C Upgrades For Routes

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:58 am

I highly doubt UA will use any of the wide body A/C for the route...to name a couple of reasons...

1- Very committed with TED on that market, maybe increasing schedule.
2- 767 will be refitted with new product and used internationally.

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RE: A/C Upgrades For Routes

Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:33 am

What do you think about DL?
 
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RE: A/C Upgrades For Routes

Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:45 pm

Quoting MEACEDAR (Thread starter):
Will UA start using a 767 instead of their A320/321 for there flights for MCO-LAX?

UA currently does not operate any A321's.

Quoting UA868 (Reply 1):
I highly doubt UA will use any of the wide body A/C for the route...to name a couple of reasons...

1- Very committed with TED on that market, maybe increasing schedule.
2- 767 will be refitted with new product and used internationally.

The LAX-MCO route has never been a TED route. The route is currently operated twice daily with mainline A319 and A320. I believe that seasonally a 752 is used.

UA will always have domestic 767's which are in a two class configuration. I believe that there are plans in the works to refit the international three class 767's. The two class (domestic configuration) is primarily used for hub-to-hub routes and to Hawaii.
 
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RE: A/C Upgrades For Routes

Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:17 am

Quoting Warreng24 (Reply 3):

Ok, so I was on an A320. I wasn't sure which one.
 
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RE: A/C Upgrades For Routes

Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:25 am

I don't think you will find many expansion of wide-bodies on domestic routes any time in the near future.

International routes are the big money makers at the current time. U.S. airlines are trying to use as many as they can to expand their international network, and are even using the 757 on many international "long-thin" routes to smaller airports.

Smaller but efficient planes such as the 320 and 737NG allow airlines to maximize revenue. If demand goes up in a route such as you suggested like LAX-MCO, UA will choose not to compete on that non-stop market by increasing capacity; rather, you will see them simply reduce the number of "cheap seats" and go after the business clientele. That's a unique market that UA has chosen to go after for a specific reason.

Delta will constantly re-evaluate the use of 767's and 777's domestically and decide if their continued routing is justifiable. If not, those planes can quickly be re-assigned to more profitable international routes.

In this day and age of competing with the Southwest Effect, most passengers don't care about wide-body vs. narrow body - they care about the cheapest fare they can possibly get.

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RE: A/C Upgrades For Routes

Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:36 am

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
Delta will constantly re-evaluate the use of 767's and 777's domestically and decide if their continued routing is justifiable. If not, those planes can quickly be re-assigned to more profitable international routes.

I agree, but with their 767s at least, DL is committed to keeping their non-ERs on domestic routes. Even if they chose to stop 767 domestic flights, what would they do with them (the non-ERs)? They can't fly internationally beyond maybe Central/South America...

So at least we can count on one airline who will continue domestic widebody service...
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RE: A/C Upgrades For Routes

Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:40 am

Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 2):
What do you think about DL?

they might considering they have flights for ATL leave like every 5 minutes and most of the flights are on 767's and sometimes 777's.
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