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Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:03 am

Guys,

I was talking to a friend of mine from Aerosur and he told me that they are already operating a B742 SRZ/REC/MAD and backwards 03 x week.

I haven´t see any news about it, nor even a photo of this B742. Do anybody has any information about this?

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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:24 am

It is wet-leased from Air Plus Comet. More Info:
No More Flights Between Bolivia - Spain? (by LatinPlane Aug 25 2006 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:50 am

Quoting IberiaA319 (Reply 1):
It is wet-leased from Air Plus Comet.

Thats wrong. The aircraft is wet-leased from Logistic Air.

http://www.ch-aviation.ch/aircraft.php?search=set&airline=5L&al_op=1
 
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:13 am

Quoting Viasa (Reply 2):
Thats wrong. The aircraft is wet-leased from Logistic Air.

That one is a B741 introduced very recently, the wet-leased B742 is EC-IZL, leased from Air Plus Comet.
 
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:19 am

Are you sure that they ned two B747?!?
 
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:22 am

Quoting Viasa (Reply 4):
Are you sure that they ned two B747?!?

Maybe EC-IZL is not needed anymore with the "new" B741, the fact is that EC-IZL has been operating for Aerosur for some months.
 
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:29 am

Quoting JJMNGR (Thread starter):
SRZ

Do you mean VVI?
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:06 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 6):
Do you mean VVI?

Santa Cruz de La Sierra.

Ok, they are operating a B74 but is this route confirmed? Never saw any advertisement about it...
 
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:29 am

Do we finally have a picture of that? Anyone!!!

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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:42 am

Quoting JJMNGR (Reply 7):

Santa Cruz de La Sierra.

I thought all commercial traffic to Santa Cruz went to VVI, but I don't know much about Bolivia. Am I confused?
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:14 pm

Quoting JJMNGR (Reply 7):
Ok, they are operating a B74 but is this route confirmed? Never saw any advertisement about it...

Hi Richard, it's a confirmed flight VVI-REC-MAD with 741. 3x weekly and it's a new development.
I'm sure you will receive further info on this flight.

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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:39 am

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 8):
Do we finally have a picture of that? Anyone!!!

Directly from AeroSur's webpage:

AeroSur presentó su Boeing 747-200:



Source: http://www.aerosur.com/noticias.html

A nice addition to all the Latin American carriers that grace MAD's skies. Congrats AeroSur and congrats Bolivia.

BTW, you can barely make it out, but you can also see the L-1011 that LAB is wet-leasing to operate their lucrative MAD service.

Some more that I found:



http://www.elmundo.com.bo/Secundaria...=30/09/2006&Tipo=Economia&Cod=5852

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Edited to add more pics.

[Edited 2006-11-04 23:59:49]
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:07 am

HHMM!! In the second picture it clearly shows the two frames!! Amazing AeroSur is flying a fleet of 02 B747s!! Who would have said it... LB is out of the game with this.

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PS. Still dreaming for the day for Mexico's 1st B747...
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:48 am

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 11):
A nice addition to all the Latin American carriers that grace MAD's skies. Congrats AeroSur and congrats Bolivia.



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 10):
it's a confirmed flight VVI-REC-MAD with 741. 3x weekly and it's a new development

Very interesting development. Do they have traffic rights /5th freedom rights to/from REC?

Any chance they could use the B747 VVI-GRU?

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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:29 am

I wonder how long will this new venture last!!! Something tells me that those 747s under Aerosur's brand won't stay more than 1 year or so.. If LAB couldn't make non-stop MAD services with 767 work, how will AErosur manage to succeed. IMO, this is a very thin market for an airline with almost no international recognition.

What do u guys think????
 
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:23 am

Well, just think of Air Madrid, such a new airline and sucessfully linking MAD and BCN with many latinamerican destinations. I believe that if AeroSur manages to deliver a reliable service, cheap fares and punctuality, they'll make a profit. Lets see what happens!
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:29 am

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 12):
HHMM!! In the second picture it clearly shows the two frames!! Amazing AeroSur is flying a fleet of 02 B747s!! Who would have said it... LB is out of the game with this.

The other green tail there is their 757
 
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:34 am

Quoting Dellatorre (Reply 14):
I wonder how long will this new venture last!!! Something tells me that those 747s under Aerosur's brand won't stay more than 1 year or so.. If LAB couldn't make non-stop MAD services with 767 work, how will AErosur manage to succeed. IMO, this is a very thin market for an airline with almost no international recognition.

What do u guys think????

Actually, MAD was one of LAB's two most profitable operations. When MAD and MIA were dropped from the network, LAB automatically lost 50% of its revenues.

When AeroSur took over it initially started operating with Air Plus Comet's A310s, however, the demand was such that it was realized that a larger capacity aircraft was needed, so it was replaced by an ex-Aerolineas Argentinas 742 wet-leased from Air Plus.

It is mentioned that IB is extremely interested in starting its own flights into Bolivia. In preparation for that, the airline has already opened a ticket office in Santa Cruz de la Sierra.

BTW, do you guys realize that that particular 741 that AeroSur is operating is flying with 530 seats accross the Atlantic? Apparently, the reason why they got that aircraft was its high-density capacity (Ex JAL 741-SR) as its ability to squeeze so many passengers in one flight will allow the airline to offer the cheapest seats between Viru Viru and Madrid. The aicraft is wet-leased from Logistic Air.

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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:42 am

Quoting Dellatorre (Reply 14):
I wonder how long will this new venture last!!! Something tells me that those 747s under Aerosur's brand won't stay more than 1 year or so..

Give them the chance!!! AeroSur is having the balls to bring a B747 (and i'm not being biased by the size) to a difficult region in the world, with a difficult country (political changes at anytime), with still a competitor called LB which is considered the 'flag carrier' as well as many other issues... they're changing Bolivia's aviation and writing the new history, lest wish them the best.

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 16):
The other green tail there is their 757

What an eye, you're totally right!!! I read in another forum they were going to fly 2 B747s, the one above and a B747-200.

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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:13 am

The 747 to MAD is due to the immigration, lots of Bolivians moving to Spain as no Visa is required (yet).
 
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:06 am

Quoting Embajador3 (Reply 15):
I believe that if AeroSur manages to deliver a reliable service, cheap fares and punctuality, they'll make a profit. Lets see what happens

Aerosur also plans to expand services withing Southamerica, Includuing SCL. Who knows if the can use their VVI geographic position to handle southern-Soutamerican traffic to Spain...

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 18):
with still a competitor called LB which is considered the 'flag carrier' as well as many other issue

Is LB flying regulary to Spain with L1011s?

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 12):
Still dreaming for the day for Mexico's 1st B747...

Would be gorgeous, too bad AM changed it livery, the prior colors would be stunning in a 744!

Regards, and congrats Bolivia
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RE: Aerosur B742 SRZ/REC/MAD

Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:30 pm

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 18):
What an eye, you're totally right!!! I read in another forum they were going to fly 2 B747s, the one above and a B747-200.

Thanks Ricardo. .I wonder if there's a possibilty either the L1011 or one of the 747s might be seen at Miami?

Quoting Arcano (Reply 20):
Would be gorgeous, too bad AM changed it livery, the prior colors would be stunning in a 744!

Indeed, in the old Aeromexico livery that would've been one splendid 747

I wish Aerosur changed that livery, because honestly LAB's is a lot better. Put some color to that fuselage at least!

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