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DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:18 am

Looks like Delta quietly suspended Atlanta-Boise service this past weekened. The last flight was 29 October 2006. The route, the only non-stop between Idaho and the Eastern US, is set to resume 13 May 2007, operating four days a week, and will go daily again during peak summer.

When the route was first launched, it was supposed to be seasonal, but it quickly went year-round thanks to strong results. Now it's back to seasonal.
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:26 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Looks like Delta quietly suspended Atlanta-Boise service this past weekened. The last flight was 29 October 2006. The route, the only non-stop between Idaho and the Eastern US, is set to resume 13 May 2007, operating four days a week, and will go daily again during peak summer.

When the route was first launched, it was supposed to be seasonal, but it quickly went year-round thanks to strong results. Now it's back to seasonal.

My first suspicion is there is a lack of suitable a/c for DL or any of the connection carriers to justify continuing this route off-season. With the 732s and 733s long gone now, my guess is that there are more higher yielding routes both year around and seasonable to justify DL keeping a 738 on the ATL-BOI route.
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:31 am

I am amazed they had it thru October. I would think if you can run it thru the extremely busy month of Oct, all Winter should be OK. But, as said above, maybe a/c availability was a reason.

Maybe FL could come in, instead.
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:30 am

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1):
My first suspicion is there is a lack of suitable a/c for DL or any of the connection carriers to justify continuing this route off-season. With the 732s and 733s long gone now, my guess is that there are more higher yielding routes both year around and seasonable to justify DL keeping a 738 on the ATL-BOI route.

I would guess that the plane is needed for routes to the Caribbean and Latin America. There are plenty of flights from SLC-BOI to pick up the slack in the meantime.

Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 2):
Maybe FL could come in, instead.

Very doubtful. They don't serve SEA year-round, and don't even fly to PDX.
 
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:49 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Looks like Delta quietly suspended Atlanta-Boise service this past weekened

As opposed to noisily?  rotfl 
 
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:51 am

Was talking with friends that work for Delta and supporting connection partners in ATL, and they said that with Delta opening so many more cities international from ATL, and the fares and discounts that were offered, international flights saw very heavy bookings not only through the late summer, but into early fall, so while most U.S. carriers would offer scaled back operations SEPT/OCT into the holiday season, Delta decided some flights still were necessary to accomodate pax to their ATL worldport.

Reason we were talking about this is because I had noticed the BUR nonstop was lost the first week of Sept while some of the other flights, like BOI, were kept. BUR was dropped becuase the L.A. basin already had enough flight support into ATL from LAX, ONT, and SNA.
 
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:59 am

Could Delta ask SkyWest to fly BOI-ATL with their DL Connection CRJ900s just to keep a year-round presence?
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:32 am

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 6):
Could Delta ask SkyWest to fly BOI-ATL with their DL Connection CRJ900s just to keep a year-round presence?

Doubt it's within the CR9's range...1838 miles is quite a long way, especially when you fly west against the jet stream.
 
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:37 am

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 3):
I would guess that the plane is needed for routes to the Caribbean and Latin America. There are plenty of flights from SLC-BOI to pick up the slack in the meantime.

They need the 738 to start up the ATL-POP in the Dominican Republic. This is the D.R.'s least expensive All-Inclusive cluster along the north coast. They were going to just use a CRJ-900 on this one, but demand became too high. I think us Yank's are being corrupted by our Canuck cousins to the north in going to D.R. All Inclusive's for tropical getaways!  crazy   dollarsign   rotfl 
That said SLC-BOI is well covered and there are many more connections east from SLC that in the past would have required an ATL connect for BOI passengers.
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:06 am

Please ignore. Refer to next post.

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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:07 am

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1):
My first suspicion is there is a lack of suitable a/c for DL or any of the connection carriers to justify continuing this route off-season. With the 732s and 733s long gone now, my guess is that there are more higher yielding routes both year around and seasonable to justify DL keeping a 738 on the ATL-BOI route.



Quoting RwSEA (Reply 3):
I would guess that the plane is needed for routes to the Caribbean and Latin America. There are plenty of flights from SLC-BOI to pick up the slack in the meantime.

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The domestic capacity is limited, and if it makes more sense to run this a/c on some Caribbean route, go for it.

In fact, ATL-MBJ next spring is being operated by an MD-88 supplementing the 763 and 738 services at the station by DL. So, one could conclude that they are maxed out on 738 inventory and where they want to go with them.
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:32 am

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 7):
Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 6):
Could Delta ask SkyWest to fly BOI-ATL with their DL Connection CRJ900s just to keep a year-round presence?

Doubt it's within the CR9's range...1838 miles is quite a long way, especially when you fly west against the jet stream.

AC operate their CRJ705s (CR9 with fewer seats) YYC-IAH nonstop which is only 90 miles shorter (1747 vs 1838).
 
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:06 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
AC operate their CRJ705s (CR9 with fewer seats) YYC-IAH nonstop which is only 90 miles shorter (1747 vs 1838).

It could be done on a larger CRJ-7X/900, but even those a/c are in short supply in the greater DL and Connection Carrier inventory. I just think DL figures with all of the BOI-SLC connections, Any patron passengers up there are covered with one stop flights back east and ATL is just a "luxury flight" that is expendable until equipment inventories improve.
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:13 am

Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 2):
Maybe FL could come in, instead.

Then DL can come back in and kick their arses.

With the 732 being gone, they're reallllly short on mainline longhaul equipment for long and thin routes like that. Wait till the loads can justify.

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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:49 pm

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 12):
It could be done on a larger CRJ-7X/900, but even those a/c are in short supply in the greater DL and Connection Carrier inventory. I just think DL figures with all of the BOI-SLC connections, Any patron passengers up there are covered with one stop flights back east and ATL is just a "luxury flight" that is expendable until equipment inventories improve.

Totally. In my eyes this is the whole purpose of SLC for DL. A hub for midsize and smaller mountain communities. Good examples might by Boise, Spokane, Bellingham, and Eugene. Maybe BOI can pull it off seasonally to ATL, but SLC is perfect to serve these markets for DL.
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:52 pm

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 13):
Then DL can come back in and kick their arses.

I don't see FL touching a market like BOI. BOI is barely half a million people. They don't do PDX or SLC, even though the later two are reportedly on their radar scope.
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:59 pm

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 15):
don't see FL touching a market like BOI. BOI is barely half a million people. They don't do PDX or SLC, even though the later two are reportedly on their radar scope.

Dont be too surprised. FL has multiple flights out of DAY every day and it is also less than 500,000 people.
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:11 pm

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 16):
Dont be too surprised. FL has multiple flights out of DAY every day and it is also less than 500,000 people.

Ohio and Idaho are two entirely different markets. People in Ohio expect to be able to go to DAY and get on a plane rather than drive to CMH, CVG or IND. In a place like Idaho, people are VERY surprised to learn they have air service, and when they realize BOI has something they can't figure out why a place like SLC has MUCH more of it.  laughing 
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:18 pm

United only operates 1 daily nonstop, a 737-300, ORD-BOI, so it's not surprising that Delta si making this flight seasonal only. United has had a major presence in Boise for 50+ years, and used to field at least two if not three ORD nonstops daily.
 
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:18 pm

United only operates 1 daily nonstop, a 737-300, ORD-BOI, so it's not surprising that Delta is making this flight seasonal only. United has had a major presence in Boise for 50+ years, and used to field at least two if not three ORD nonstops daily.
 
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:57 am

Quoting Milesrich (Reply 19):
United only operates 1 daily nonstop, a 737-300, ORD-BOI, so it's not surprising that Delta is making this flight seasonal only. United has had a major presence in Boise for 50+ years, and used to field at least two if not three ORD nonstops daily.

UA similarly had more non-stops from ORD into SLC a number of years ago and had a much larger presence in SLC, until the Western/Delta build-up during the 1980s.
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RE: DL Quietly Suspends Atlanta-Boise

Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:57 am

Quoting Milesrich (Reply 18):
United only operates 1 daily nonstop, a 737-300, ORD-BOI, so it's not surprising that Delta is making this flight seasonal only. United has had a major presence in Boise for 50+ years, and used to field at least two if not three ORD nonstops daily.

Of course,that is when BOI only had United, Hughes Airwest, and Frontier (I), were it for jet service here. Hell,UA at one time operated 16 jet flights a day, now it is 4.
And the max was 2/day. But on the upside, they have more mainlines to DEN (3), than early-mid 80s, when it was mostly 1 or 2.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 15):
They don't do PDX or SLC, even though the later two are reportedly on their radar scope.

Of course, PDX and SLC would be a more competitive market since there are multiple flights from either to ATL (or MDW for that matter).
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