FCA787
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Virgin Flight VS044 Today.

Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:42 pm

Hi

I was just checking to see if a friends flight was on time landing in to LGW and noticed that VS044 LAS-LGW arrived just under 3 hrs late in to LGW today and it said on the website the flight went via Gander......

09:55 VS044 LAS VEGAS VIA GANDER LANDED 1243 South Terminal

anyone know why??

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Rick767
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RE: Virgin Flight VS044 Today.

Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:51 pm

Likely to be a medical emergency.

Bad luck though for the LAS route which already had a medical diversion at the weekend (VS043 LGW-LAS diverted to YWG 29/10).
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FCA787
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RE: Virgin Flight VS044 Today.

Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:58 pm

What happends when say a medical diversion happends? Is their a danger the crew could run out of hours? thus leaving the aircraft and pax stranded?

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jfk777
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RE: Virgin Flight VS044 Today.

Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:00 pm

I heard they under loaded the fuel, so they had to stop to tank up.
 
Rick767
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RE: Virgin Flight VS044 Today.

Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:10 pm

Quoting FCA787 (Reply 2):
What happends when say a medical diversion happends? Is their a danger the crew could run out of hours? thus leaving the aircraft and pax stranded?

There is a danger yes, depending on how long it takes to sort the problem out on the ground, uplift more fuel, etc...

LGW-LAS or vice-versa is 3 flight deck crew at VS so there is some leeway with regard to duty hours, provided there was no significant departure delay. Crew can always go into 'discretion' (i.e. legally continue beyond their normal hours limit by a defined amount) in the event of unusual circumstances like that, though techincally they can always refuse.

In the event that the crew cannot go into discretion to complete the flight, no-one will be 'stranded' as such - the crew and passengers would simply be accommodated locally to allow a minimum rest period before re-commencing the flight.
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Leezyjet
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RE: Virgin Flight VS044 Today.

Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:42 pm

Quoting Rick767 (Reply 4):
In the event that the crew cannot go into discretion to complete the flight, no-one will be 'stranded' as such - the crew and passengers would simply be accommodated locally to allow a minimum rest period before re-commencing the flight.

Nothing is simple in that scenario. It is an airlines worst nightmare to have an a/c, crew and passengers stuck at a non-scheduled destination and having to arrange things from thousands of miles away via a local handling agent who may not be familier with your airlines requirements and in a town that may be in a remote location so does not have the facilities to accomodate an a/c load of passengers at the drop of a hat.

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Charliejag1
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RE: Virgin Flight VS044 Today.

Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:26 am

I am in crew scheduling, and these explanations are completely correct. If you would like more information, check out FAR 121.467 and 121.471.
 
FCA787
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RE: Virgin Flight VS044 Today.

Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:32 am

Ok Thanks

Another question I have is how long must a flight be before it carries a 3 or even 4 man flight deck crew?.

SQ's SIN-EWR flight - how mant flight crew does that carry does anyone know?

Cheers again!