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OS: End Of Lauda Air

Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:54 pm

according to orf.at the brand Lauda Air will most likely disappear. The remaining charters will be run under OS name. Austrian arrows as well as their base at INN will remain.

cheers
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:36 am

Too bad those nice colors will be disappearing from the sky.

I wish Austrian would disappear instead of Lauda Big grin
 
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:07 am

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 1):
Too bad those nice colors will be disappearing from the sky.

I wish Austrian would disappear instead of Lauda

To be fair, the new fleet seems to be primarily concentrated around what Lauda owned.
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:09 am

Economically I would say this makes sense, it makes no sense to further invest in this brand - rather spend the money to increase awareness of the Austrian brand.

Quoting Macc (Thread starter):
according to orf.at the brand Lauda Air will most likely disappear.

Could you please post that link, because I can't seem to find this article.

Quoting N328KF (Reply 2):
To be fair, the new fleet seems to be primarily concentrated around what Lauda owned.

Correct would be to say their long-haul fleet will be ex-Lauda aircraft.
 
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:22 am

http://oe1.orf.at/inforadio/69728.html?filter=2

at the end of the story. the previous article is gone.

I regret that the brand will vanish, but it is a good economic decision. Their fleet plans however I will never understand....
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:28 am

Its sad to see the end of another European brand similar in vibe to Virgin Atlantic. I will always remember the flight crew, at least the men wore blue jeans. To bad they only flew to Miami and not JFK or more traditional American gateway city.
 
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:15 am

Will Austrian continue the Lauda run to TAB?????

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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:45 am

Everytime I drive by the airport and see a Martinair new c/s tail peeking out my first impression is, wow Lauda Air!

Then ah that's just Martinair. Excitement lasted 3 seconds.

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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:08 am

Quoting Semobeila (Reply 3):
Economically I would say this makes sense, it makes no sense to further invest in this brand - rather spend the money to increase awareness of the Austrian brand.

Lauda Air being established as a charter airline there sure is a need for the Lauda Air brand. It is very strong and that's why OS has kept it up to this point in the first place. I think that OS is doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason.

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 1):
Too bad those nice colors will be disappearing from the sky.

I wish Austrian would disappear instead of Lauda

Based on the corporate image, OS could for sure learn a thing or two from Lauda Air. I flew only once with them (767) and it was one of the most pleasant flights I had at all.
 
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:57 am

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 6):

Flights to Tobago were discontinued Febuary of this year. Loads at TAB were rather poor, most passengers went onwards to Puerto Plata or later to Montego Bay.
 
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:21 am

There are no widebodies left in Lauda colors right?

only 737s and A320s now?
 
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:29 am

Quoting Adria (Reply 8):
I flew only once with them (767) and it was one of the most pleasant flights I had at all.

I flew on Lauda a few times before they were acquired by Austrian. I don't remember the flights well (I've had about 1000 flights since then) but I was definitely left with a positive impression. As a slave of Star Alliance (4 Star Gold cards), I fly OS quite a bit and they're not bad (better than any US airline) but I think Lauda was better. SQ remains my favorite.

It doesn't make business sense to maintain both brands forever. A transition is appropriate. I'm surprised that OS maintained the Lauda brand as long as they did. Oh well, nothing lasts forever.
 
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:10 am

well thats bad news!
Another european quality Carrier goes belly up.


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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:30 am

Quoting Macc (Thread starter):
The remaining charters will be run under OS name. Austrian arrows as well as their base at INN will remain.

What moran came up with the name "Austrian Arrows"??? OS also too over Tyrolean and more or less ruined that carrier as well.
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:13 am

Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 13):
What moran came up with the name "Austrian Arrows"??? OS also too over Tyrolean and more or less ruined that carrier as well.

Well, actually it still is tyrolean, just branded differently to make the connection with Austrian.
...and they are still making money, so I don't think they ruined tyrolean.
 
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:33 am

Quoting Semobeila (Reply 14):
so I don't think they ruined tyrolean.

Well I flew them two weeks ago and their inflight service was, well there wasn't any inflight service. A huge difference to what Tyrolean offered a few years ago when they flew under their own name. Anyway, Austrian Arrows is such a joke for a brand name no matter how they try to sell it.
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:40 am

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 10):
There are no widebodies left in Lauda colors right?

That seems to be the most recent picture of it on A.net! But I've seen one of it on the "other" site at PEK and dated 23.10.2006.

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Quoting Adria (Reply 8):
Lauda Air being established as a charter airline there sure is a need for the Lauda Air brand. It is very strong and that's why OS has kept it up to this point in the first place. I think that OS is doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason.

I wouldn't be surprised to see OS restart Austrian Air Services for its charters when needed, just to stick to one root brand.

Cheers.

[Edited 2006-11-05 00:48:05]
 
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:42 am

It would be a shame indeed, OS is in a identity/financial crises, heck probably more people know who Niki is than the Austrian national carrier.... Big grin but OS has to do what they think is right and bring them back in to a "rock solid" carrier ( hope they start with their fleet).....  Wink

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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:04 pm

when OS introduced their rebranding of tyrolean and their new colorsheme I just thought if that was created by a secretary, the wife of some manager or some taxidrivers. But then I thought that would be an unjustice towards these people. OS spent a hell of a money for these changes. ANd IIRC it was a german designer doing this. Its a proof that you can make money with shit.
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:04 pm

Quoting Swissy (Reply 17):
It would be a shame indeed, OS is in a identity/financial crises, heck probably more people know who Niki is than the Austrian national carrier.... but OS has to do what they think is right and bring them back in to a "rock solid" carrier ( hope they start with their fleet).....

Exactly Lauda was a very good established airline in the charter business, I doubt that droping such a strong brand is a good decision in the long-term but who knows what's going on in OS. They could learn a thing or two how to brand an airline from Lauda (and make a good looking livery Smile).
 
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:14 pm

Austrian has a nightmare identity crisis: Austrian, Tyrolean, Lauda, Flying Arrows. It needs to build one identity.

Personally, I cannot understand the tears and praises for Lauda. I flew them two or three times and they were not remarkable except for one feature: the shortest leg room i have ever seen in my life. My knees were pressed against the seat in front of me. They were the most miserable flights in my life. I would arrive for a flight to Yerevan or Tbilisi and see that OS had swapped out an OS with a Lauda plane and I'd be tempted to ask for my money back...I didn't know I was flying a discount carrier. I will not weep the passing of Lauda. Good riddance.
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:31 pm

Quoting MrComet (Reply 20):
Austrian has a nightmare identity crisis: Austrian, Tyrolean, Lauda, Flying Arrows. It needs to build one identity.

They have an ID crisis with the Austrian brand, that's all. One company can have multiple brands as long as those don't compete with each other (Virgin, Qantas,...). Os tried to do that (changing the liveries of the long-haul fleet to OS and some of the short-haul fleet to NG) but they failed.
A strong brand is a valuable asset and OS is giving that away.
 
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:52 pm

Quoting MrComet (Reply 20):
Personally, I cannot understand the tears and praises for Lauda. I flew them two or three times and they were not remarkable except for one feature: the shortest leg room i have ever seen in my life. My knees were pressed against the seat in front of me. They were the most miserable flights in my life

Agree 100%. Flew with them vie-cph a few weeks ago and I was the 2nd worse flight I'll ever had (no 1 is my first AND last flight with Ryanair)
 
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:18 am

Quoting Adria (Reply 21):
A strong brand is a valuable asset and OS is giving that away.

Agree. I flew Tyrolean to VIE, OS to some city, NG back to VIE. It's crazy.
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:42 am

Quoting Magyarorszag (Reply 16):
That seems to be the most recent picture of it on A.net! But I've seen one of it on the "other" site at PEK and dated 23.10.2006.



Nice, I doubt i'll get to photograph it before it's history. I don't think they fly to North America using that 767. I know a few others are painted in the damn ugly Star Alliance livery.

Quoting MrComet (Reply 20):
Austrian has a nightmare identity crisis: Austrian, Tyrolean, Lauda, Flying Arrows. It needs to build one identity.

I don't know why Austrian doesn't keep Lauda Air as a charter division, to start serving Miami again and other charter destinations.
 
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RE: OS: End Of Lauda Air

Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:26 am

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 24):
I know a few others are painted in the damn ugly Star Alliance livery.

There are four with OS titles and two with those of NG, of which one (OE-LAT)is in the "damn ugly" Star Alliance colors as you say.

Cheers.