SkyGourmet
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No Spoons Allowed In Carry-on Luggage?

Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:49 am

Hi everyone,
I was travelling with OA from MLO (Milos, the island where the Venus de Milo was found) to ATH a few days ago. At the security checkpoint in MLO, the security agent found the two small metal spoons I was going to take along, and told me I wasn't allowed to take them on board. They would have been thrown away if I hadn't been able to talk the airport manager (or whoever that person was) into putting them into my checked-in luggage for me (which wasn't a big deal since MLO is a tiny airport and not many people fit into the twice-daily Dash 8-100 to ATH). So my question is, are spoons that dangerous? The airport manager stated that the spoons could be broken apart and used as a weapon, but spoons don't break apart when force is applied to them, they just bend. Was anyone else here ever not allowed to take spoons on board? I did find this rather odd.
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columbia107
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RE: No Spoons Allowed In Carry-on Luggage?

Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:06 am

Interesting comment. BA's Club cutomers are provided with metal knives, forks and SPOONS on long haul flights. AT least they did on BA2232 last night.

I guess potential terrorists need to buy a Club class ticket to be a threat to BA customers. And there is no need to split the SPOON.

Call this double standards.
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RE: No Spoons Allowed In Carry-on Luggage?

Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:35 am

Even CO gave me flatware for an international flight in economy. Metal fork, spoon, and knife were given to ALL customers. Weird how I can't take it on board but they just give it to you later on. I wonder if they count them like in prison?
 
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RE: No Spoons Allowed In Carry-on Luggage?

Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:25 am

This wasn't in the United States however. Maybe they just do it differently there. As far as I know spoons are not prohibited from carry-on baggage here.

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RE: No Spoons Allowed In Carry-on Luggage?

Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:43 am

When I flew after 9/11 they gave us plastic butter knives and metal forks.  dopey 
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RE: No Spoons Allowed In Carry-on Luggage?

Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:56 am

Quoting Columbia107 (Reply 1):
AT least they did on BA2232 last night.

You were in Bermuda? How long for?
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RE: No Spoons Allowed In Carry-on Luggage?

Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:17 am

Quoting SkyGourmet (Thread starter):
The airport manager stated that the spoons could be broken apart and used as a weapon, but spoons don't break apart when force is applied to them, they just bend.

Really crappy cheap spoons will break, but I wonder how sharp a weapon they would make...


Seems you were the victim of one of these thousands of ignorant unprofessional overzealous security people that act as parasites on air transportation.

Just tell him that there is a list of prohibited items that IS the standard, it is not about how safe/unsafe one security agent feels about items being carried onboard, it is about finding out whether one brings items that others have considered dangerous. If I were a security agent, I would still think of water as the most innocuous substance, however, others have decided for me it is a threat, and I would feel sorry to ask anybody who brings some in to get rid of it.
Makes me think of carrying such a list with me next time I fly, so I can show it to a possible overzealous moron who is dumping all his anger on my poor person...

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 3):
Death by spooning.

Death to the morons by spooning.
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RE: No Spoons Allowed In Carry-on Luggage?

Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:25 am

I had a couple of friends in high school who were joking about weirding out the TSA agents by walking up to the metal detectors, taking a single spoon out of their pockets, placing it through the x-ray machine, and picking it up on the other side. Good thing they never tried it!
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RE: No Spoons Allowed In Carry-on Luggage?

Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:54 pm

Quoting Columbia107 (Reply 1):
Interesting comment. BA's Club cutomers are provided with metal knives, forks and SPOONS on long haul flights. AT least they did on BA2232 last night.

That is quite correct. Metal cutlery is allowed on board BA flights as long as it meets the criteria laid down by DfT and Transec. The forks are to have squared or rounded prongs and the knives are to have rounded ends minimally serated on one side only. The really silly thing about the original banning of metal cutlery was that, as anyone who has flown would know, as the metal knives were used over and over again they were never that sharp. But were replaced with plastic disposable knives, and every one that I had been given were razor sharp and heavily serated and much more dangerous than the metal ones.
But there is no security measures related to spoons.
 
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RE: No Spoons Allowed In Carry-on Luggage?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:48 am

Thank you for your responses so far. I would have expected that spoons aren't officially forbidden in the carry-on luggage, but who knows what kind of crazy laws people come up with.

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 6):
Just tell him that there is a list of prohibited items that IS the standard

Would I really be able to take something onboard which the security agent thinks is prohibited if I proved that it isn't?
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RE: No Spoons Allowed In Carry-on Luggage?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:57 am

Quoting SkyGourmet (Reply 9):

Would I really be able to take something onboard which the security agent thinks is prohibited if I proved that it isn't?

The trick is not to be confrontational. Just be very polite and say "I checked the list and spoons are not on it. I didn't want any trouble and I have the list with me just in case."
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