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Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:51 am

I know this must be a reoccurring thread but I was curious if there were any updates on whether or not AirTran would be getting the 737-800s. I went back through a few locked threads in the database trying to figure out what’s going on with AirTran and the 737-800.

Apparently they placed options for 737-800s along with their order for 737NGs. However it seems it that there was an issue with an automatic pay increase should they take the 738. I did some digging in the database but only found limited information. Are they planning with going with these options or just keeping with the 737NG - right now it seems to be working for them...

The reason that I’m asking is I’ve non-reved a few times now on the FL 737s and they safety cards read “737-700/800” or something to that effect showing that they are ready for them, should they arrive.

So you AirTran peeps, what’s the word? Spill it.
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RE: Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:04 am

Quoting AkjetBlue (Thread starter):
The reason that I’m asking is I’ve non-reved a few times now on the FL 737s and they safety cards read “737-700/800” or something to that effect showing that they are ready for them, should they arrive

I would sure think the safety cards would not be the same for the 700 & 800 since they are different emergency exit configurations.
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RE: Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:04 am

Quoting AkjetBlue (Thread starter):
Apparently they placed options for 737-800s along with their order for 737NGs.



Quoting AkjetBlue (Thread starter):
Are they planning with going with these options or just keeping with the 737NG

Just so you know, the -800 is a 737NG. I think you meant to say ...737-800s along with an order for -700s..., and ... these options or just keeping with the 737-700.

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
I would sure think the safety cards would not be the same for the 700 & 800 since they are different emergency exit configurations.

I was thinking the same thing as well. The -700 has 6 exits (2 front, 2 back, 2 overwing), where as the -800 has 8 exits (2 front, 2 back, 4 overwing)

I would comment about the order, but I don't know much about Air Tran, so I wont.


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RE: Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:07 am

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
I would sure think the safety cards would not be the same for the 700 & 800 since they are different emergency exit configurations.

IIRC, the card shows the exits for both a/c series.
 
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RE: Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:15 pm

Quoting AkjetBlue (Thread starter):



Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):



Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 2):

The card are published for the same type with one card..

You guys have really got to think about AirTran first. A company that does it as cheep as possible as quickly as possible. So if the -800's come it will be for a real reason.
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RE: Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:26 pm

Among all the rumors circulated through the mill I am privy to, I have yet to hear a peep about the 800s coming online. The first indication we as F/As will have will probably be through the monthy bidding. So far every month is 717/737-700.

If scheduling is working on integrating the fourth F/A in for the 800s on coming schedules they're being awfully quiet about it.

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RE: Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:37 pm

i didnt know about the 738s, but didnt they just place an order for 736s??
 
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RE: Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:49 pm

Quoting FL1TPA (Reply 5):
Among all the rumors circulated through the mill I am privy to, I have yet to hear a peep about the 800s coming online. The first indication we as F/As will have will probably be through the monthy bidding. So far every month is 717/737-700.

How long does AirTran plan to keep the 717s? I know they are new but what are they going to do when they want to add more 100 seaters?
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RE: Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:54 pm

AirTran has the option to convert -700s to -800s with twelve months' notice. To date this option has not been taken. I think it was assumed there would be more of a shakeout in the industry by now with more competitive capacity taken out than has actually happened. AirTran is very happy with the -700s. I doubt we'll see anything bigger for a while.

The safety cards show both configurations. The FA manuals also cover both versions.

The pilots' contract calls for a higher rate for a 737-800 size aircraft but they are in negotiations and this could change. Perhaps the outcome of the pilot negotiations will alter AirTran's fleet plans.
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RE: Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:32 pm

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 7):
How long does AirTran plan to keep the 717s? I know they are new but what are they going to do when they want to add more 100 seaters?

The 717s will, so far as I can tell, stick around for a while. They love the things. They are cheap to operate, and so long as they stay in good shape, they'll be in service many years yet.
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RE: Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:41 pm

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 9):
They are cheap to operate

Perhaps even more importantly, they, like the DC9, are designed to be quick to fix. Also, given that Airtran has a whole lot of experience with the type, it's a safe bet that the great preponderance of their folks have seen almost all their failure modes, and thus can diagnose problems quickly as well.
 
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RE: Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:44 pm

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The 717s will, so far as I can tell, stick around for a while. They love the things. They are cheap to operate, and so long as they stay in good shape, they'll be in service many years yet.

I agree. The 717 is a wonderfull aircraft. The galleys simple, the aisle wider than the 737, and in my opinion a much smoother ride than 737. They desperately need to replace the old TWA biz class seats with our new leather ones. They look horrible! The suede is worn and discolored, most of the headrests are stuck or immovable and they are just plain uncomfortable to me and a lot of customers.

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RE: Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:06 pm

Quoting FL1TPA (Reply 11):
Quote:
The 717s will, so far as I can tell, stick around for a while. They love the things. They are cheap to operate, and so long as they stay in good shape, they'll be in service many years yet.

I agree. The 717 is a wonderfull aircraft. The galleys simple, the aisle wider than the 737, and in my opinion a much smoother ride than 737. They desperately need to replace the old TWA biz class seats with our new leather ones. They look horrible! The suede is worn and discolored, most of the headrests are stuck or immovable and they are just plain uncomfortable to me and a lot of customers.

I hope they stay around for a while. I am very disappointed in Boeing for ending production of the aircraft. AirTran and Midwest Express were big customers, probably would have bought more in the future. I just figure there will be a time where they want more 100 seaters and will have to look elsewhere since ordering more 717s is no longer an option.
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RE: Will AirTran Finally Take The 737-800?

Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:16 pm

I can only see FL taking the -800 options when and if they expand with more East-West routes. Only routes like BWI/MDW/BOS-LAS/LAX/SFO and so on could probably be justified in Leonard's mind. Also, I could see them taking the options if someone like F9 or YX were to fold and they could jump into a market with some strength and capacity.

However, in the near future I cannot see them taking the -800 options. Remember, they backed off there deliveries for the next couple of years in anticipation of overcapacity.

Also, I don't expect the 717's are going anywhere. FL will probably pick up a few along the way as they come available and run the 717 fleet into the ground like NW and the DC-9's.

Just my $.02
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