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Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:28 am

Winter is often a difficult time of year for the aviation business.

Which Low Cost Carrier is top of you list to fail before Summer '07 ?
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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:33 am

None in the United States, though there are two that are destined to fail before starting.

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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:16 am

I have many doubts about your question but here are my top listed:

1. Clickair (it's a failure and will be a great failure if IB don't prevent it).
2. Air Scotland (it out of Business now, no?)
3. Air Madrid (I do not consider it as low cost carrier but their rates are so reduced).
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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:34 am

4. Virgin America
5. Virgin Express (only because it is being absorbed)
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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:38 am

Add Centavia to the list, they will fly their aircraft back to the UK for storage tomorrow because they did not get any traffic rights.
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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:13 am

Clickair -wrong product ,wrong destinations,too much competition
SkyEurope - not enough revenue,difficult Eastern European Market ,under capitalized,eaten up all capital..
Central Wings - see SkyEurope...(but sponsored by LOT )
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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:15 am

SkyBust! Err... Skybus... (won't even get started).  Wink
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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:16 am

What about Wizzair? Haven't heard anything about them lately.
 
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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:18 am

some of these Turkish carriers...

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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:53 am

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 2):
I have many doubts about your question but here are my top listed

May I ask what doubts you have ?
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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:10 am

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 2):
1. Clickair (it's a failure and will be a great failure if IB don't prevent it).

Surely IB will keep ClickAir going - for it to fail this winter would be a total embarrasment

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 7):
What about Wizzair? Haven't heard anything about them lately.

Theyve recently announced their expansion for next summer, at least some of it and seem to be doing OK - they are also well placed to expand further into Romania and Bulgaria when they become EU members
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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:49 am

I will have to say Skybus and Virgin America. I would love to see them get off the ground, but there is just too much compacity as it is without 2 more carriers
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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:06 am

Virgin America will not fail. Nor will Skybus. Not this winter anyways. I think too much has been pumped into Virgin America for them to fail. The only way I feel that they will fail is if the DOT does not let them fly. As for Skybus, they have a large amount of startup money, and will start service. Shortly after that, they will fail, but service will start before they do. My thoughts anyways.
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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:45 am

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 11):
compacity

Capacity, I hope you mean. Also, US domestic load factors are reaching record levels, thanks to the recent decrease in capacity. The capacity isn't there because it can't be filled profitably, and thus isn't being offered. Capacity isn't the problem- yield is. That said, I also believe that neither of the two will survive.
 
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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:24 am

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 2):
I have many doubts about your question but here are my top listed:

1. Clickair (it's a failure and will be a great failure if IB don't prevent it).
2. Air Scotland (it out of Business now, no?)
3. Air Madrid (I do not consider it as low cost carrier but their rates are so reduced).

1. Till now loads are very good, It will grow receiving pax transfered from IB, It will become 1st spanish low cost carrier sure in the next 3 years surpassing VY.
2. It could dissapear last year , now doing well.
3. Nothing to say about future but i would say is LCC clearly, no hotels, no welfare, low costs Big grin
 
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RE: Which LCC's Are Unlikely To Suvive The Winter

Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:28 am

Woth a biot of luck FR will go bust but it won't happen.


I think Clickair will work, dunno why just think it will !

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