fiaz
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Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:55 am

Hey everyone!!

i just found this video on the net, and when i watched it, it was a little weird because if u watch the whole video,,,the plane nose almost opposite of the runway heading, now i dont think that is a crosswind landing video, because i have seen bad ones!!
just take a look at it....i would love u hear what u guys think

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HEehSpiT5...%20landing%20KLM%20747%20Amsterdam

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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:14 am

It is a normal landing procedure in Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:43 am

I don't know, Fiaz, what's more difficult. Reading text without capitalization or shooting an IGS approach to RWY 13 at the old Kai Tak airport.
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:39 am

That would have been a really nice video of the approach had the guy filming not screwed up at the end how much he zoomed in! Ah well

As stated already the approach is normal procedure at Kai Tak, Just looks as though they didn't turn in enough to line up properly. If you do a search of photos a Kai Tak you can see it happened a fair few times.

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RICARIZA
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:56 am

All I know is that they are speaking Italian.. maybe AZ?
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:08 am

Anyone else notice the Captian having a sneeky smoke before landing??  hot 
 
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:13 am

He was nervous  Big grin  Big grin
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:13 am

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 4):
All I know is that they are speaking Italian.. maybe AZ?

Yes Ricardo, it looks like an Alitalia MD11 to me.

Very easy going Italian crew, even the smoking by the skipper looks just fine !!!

The Italians are really very comfortable people !!!

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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:31 am

It is a video of an AZ MD11 landing at Kai Tak, I have seen it before on a website, sadly I can't remember it.
 
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:36 am

The best part of this video is that it's under the category of "Comedy".

Really bad camerawork, btw.

[Edited 2006-11-09 22:39:25]
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:37 am

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 4):
All I know is that they are speaking Italian.. maybe AZ?

At 02:32 in the video, the captain uses the radio and identifies the flight as "Alitalia 177".
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:44 am

For comparison, I suppose everyone has seen this already (34 000+ views):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=258406597762808482&q=md-11
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:20 am

Quoting Fiaz (Thread starter):
plane nose almost opposite of the runway heading

G'day Fiaz  Smile , I think it was a case of bad camera work more then anything else. It did look like they overshot the turn and ended up a bit to the left of the centre-line, but the recovery seemed to be quite good and the landing itself seemed to be very smooth. Must have been the calming effect of that cigarette  bigthumbsup !
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:14 am

does anyone have kai taks approach chart_? it would be very good for me to have them
 
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:43 am

Quoting EGNR (Reply 10):
At 02:32 in the video, the captain uses the radio and identifies the flight as "Alitalia 177".

I actually heard "Alitalia 1774".
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:03 am

How hard is it to hold a camera steady? A perfectly good video ruined.
 
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:52 am

AirWillie6475, you understate. Criminal in my book. Jumpseat on a beautiful MD11 into Kai Tak, landing, the heart of the video, ripped out. Fortunately, I got to jump seat into the new airport once, before 911
 
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:08 pm

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 14):
I actually heard "Alitalia 1774

Right.. I heard that too.
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:45 pm

Out of curiosity, are the landing procedeures different at Kai Tak Vs. Chek Lap Kok? I havent been to Hong Kong in a long time, so I dont know.
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:53 pm

Quoting Spacecadet (Reply 9):
"Really bad camerawork, btw".

you are right, I've seen this video a while back. What a wasted opportunity. Zoom out already!
 
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:28 pm

Quoting Coronado990 (Reply 2):
I don't know, Fiaz, what's more difficult. Reading text without capitalization or shooting an IGS approach to RWY 13 at the old Kai Tak airport.

You go, sweetheart!

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Vref5
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:34 pm

Ahem... let's be nice and not jump all over the camera operator.

It's still something we can enjoy of a time gone by, shaky or not, and was a labor of love.

However, if any of you here has personally filmed a better video of the Kai Tak approach and landing, please do post the website link. Thanks.
 
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:54 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 18):
Out of curiosity, are the landing procedeures different at Kai Tak Vs. Chek Lap Kok? I havent been to Hong Kong in a long time, so I dont know.

Oh, they are.

Approach plates for both airports:

http://www.vatroc.org/english/charts/vhhh_new.htm

You'll recognize the old Kai Tak plate if you had looked closely at the video and compared it to the one at the link above.  Smile

Quoting Snaiks (Reply 13):
does anyone have kai taks approach chart_? it would be very good for me to have them

See above.
 
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:29 pm

That guy shouldn't be allowed to touch a video camera again.. what the hell is he trying to film during touchdown. The guy acts like he has Parkinson's disease or something.

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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:51 pm

I liked the "Bank Angle" callout from the GPWS shortly before touchdown...

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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:59 pm

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 14):
I actually heard "Alitalia 1774".

Alitalia has never had such a flight number on intercontinental commercial/pax routes, except at the time when they had Australia based crews operating the shuttle flights between MEL and SYD on to HKG (or BKK) and then FCO, but this dates back to the 70s or 80s.

I think that the video concerns more likely an Alitalia Cargo B747, maybe I-DEMC or I-DEMR.
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:28 pm

This plane IS a Alitalia MD11: look at the throttle ( 3 engines) and MD ergonomy! Although Kai Tak is a very particular approach, hearing the "bank angle" callout at 20 feet is a little bit strange!
 
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:28 pm

Compare the view @2:24 and @3:06. Does it seem to you that there's a different person occupying the left hand seat at these times?
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:49 am

An airline pilot smoking a cigarette? While flying???

I'm surprised. I would have thought that would be a big no-no.
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:28 am

Well there's 9 minutes of my life that I'll never get back.
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:54 am

Quoting WSOY (Reply 27):
Compare the view @2:24 and @3:06. Does it seem to you that there's a different person occupying the left hand seat at these times?

Sure does. First guy was younger with a flop of brown hair, then the camera pans outside the windscreen and when it returns inside the cockpit, the bearded grey-haired older captain is in the left seat.
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:34 am

 
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RE: Video: Weird Landing

Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:47 am

Indeed they are Italian, AZ, MD-11

What an amazing experience to be able to land the most beautiful aircraft on such a hard runway! Especially on AZ!

I'd have given anything to be in that guy's place.
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