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Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:20 am

I am about to move to then YNG area which will give me several aiports to choose from. CAK, CLE, and PIT are all roughly the same distance.

I have been looking at fares on routes that I normally take for business or trips that I am planning for leisure and PIT is significantly cheaper than CAK or CLE on almost (if not every) route. Why is this? FL flies to both CAK and PIT, WN flies to PIT and CLE, B6 of course flies to PIT. So the "Southwest Effect" should not be the difference.

With these low yields it is not wonder PIT sees a lot of Express service, and I also can't see why anyone would want to expand there.

Thoughts and input please!!
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:23 am

Are you checking after the holidays or what? Where are you flying to?
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:26 am

I dunno, my firm just paid roughly $2000 for some unrestricted coach tickets for me ex-DCA and BWI. I think it depends on the market, and I will bet you'll find the same price differences at other similar airports.
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:51 am

Yeah after the holidays. I was just randomly searching some dates in Jan and Feb. I was looking at routes such as PIT-SFO, PIT-SNA, PIT-MIA and some others.
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:23 am

One word....Competition. PIT is served by FL, B6, WN and USA3000. There are more LCC's there than in the other markets you mentioned. In addition, US still has a significant presence there and for a second tier city there is a good amount of service from AA, DL, NW, UA and others.
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:27 am

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 3):
Yeah after the holidays. I was just randomly searching some dates in Jan and Feb. I was looking at routes such as PIT-SFO, PIT-SNA, PIT-MIA and some others.

Well, cheaper fares are helping Pittsburgh's O&D numbers increase. You are making this seem like a negative thing for you and the rest of the city.

Quoting ATLAaron (Thread starter):
With these low yields it is not wonder PIT sees a lot of Express service, and I also can't see why anyone would want to expand there.

HELLO, no airlines are expanding PIT! Republic Airways is however opening up heavy maintenance for the E70 and E75.


Glad to hear you will be choosing PIT for your travel needs!
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:45 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 5):
Well, cheaper fares are helping Pittsburgh's O&D numbers increase. You are making this seem like a negative thing for you and the rest of the city.

No of course not, it is great for me and other travelers. I was just curious why it would be much cheaper than CLE or CAK.
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:49 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 5):
Well, cheaper fares are helping Pittsburgh's O&D numbers increase. You are making this seem like a negative thing for you and the rest of the city.

Yeah. When US had the hub, they drove people away to places like CLE for cheaper fares. High fares=low O&D, low fares=high O&D, as people prefer the cheaper fares when flying point2point as well as connections.

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 5):
HELLO, no airlines are expanding PIT! Republic Airways is however opening up heavy maintenance for the E70 and E75.

I thought they opened up that base already if I remember correctly in that Post-Gazette article from last year. Republic was opening a F/A pilots and mx base at the airside terminal. They have 175 employees now and plan to add more, which is what PIT really needs. As of now, I am a Republic Airlines cheerleader!!!! I will be an even bigger one if they put an E70 or 175 on PIT-MDT now Big grin
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:51 am

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 6):
No of course not, it is great for me and other travelers. I was just curious why it would be much cheaper than CLE or CAK.

Are you going to be using PIT for your travel needs? I sure hope you can. Traveling through Pittsburgh International is a great experience.
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:57 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 8):
Are you going to be using PIT for your travel needs?

Out of CLE, CAK, and PIT I will more than likely just use whoever is cheapest. Which so far looks like PIT. Plus I certainly will go where I can get on a mainline flight if possible, which certainly is not CAK!

Never been to PIT airport so I am excited. I have a trip booked out of there in Jan on AA PIT-DFW-MCO and back. Does AA mainline have anything going into PIT?
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:44 am

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 9):
Never been to PIT airport so I am excited. I have a trip booked out of there in Jan on AA PIT-DFW-MCO and back. Does AA mainline have anything going into PIT?

Unfortunately, they pulled all mainline a while back. I believe PIT-DFW is a CR7. I think this was one of the last AA mainline flights to be dropped. It was either this one or PIT-JFK. Both were MD80 flights I believe. Still, I hope this doesn't steer you away from PIT...
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:31 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 10):
It was either this one or PIT-JFK.

AA doesn't fly PIT-JFK. Eagle flies to LGA, and if AA has ever operated mainline to New York City, it hasn't been in recent times.
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:47 am

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 11):
AA doesn't fly PIT-JFK. Eagle flies to LGA, and if AA has ever operated mainline to New York City, it hasn't been in recent times.

I didn't say it did "now." I was just not sure of which route was the last one to have an MD80 on it. Apparently from your reply, it must have been DFW service that was the last AA MD80 standing in PIT before that one went...
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:03 am

Well AA doesn't fly to CAK at all and CLE only sees Eagle also, so looks like if I want to fly AA it will be Eagle. I am not a big fan of US but I know PIT sees some mainline from UA, CO and DL.
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:23 am

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 13):
I am not a big fan of US but I know PIT sees some mainline from UA, CO and DL.

UA: A319 and 733s to DEN and ORD...
CO: I think a 737 to IAH, but not sure
DL: MD88s to ATL
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:37 am

This is a question that really makes me scratch my head. CLE/CAK is basically served by the same suite of low cost carriers and basically has the same sucky rust belt economy, yet fares are dramatically larger to leisure destinations. I'm trying to go to Caribbean in the spring and fares are $800+ from CLE/CAK to any decent island, vs. $500 and change from PIT!! That's some difference and I don't get it. Maybe the lake effect snow is that much worse here in CLE so people are itching that much more to go warm in the winter.
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:01 am

Quoting Ncflyer (Reply 15):
I'm trying to go to Caribbean in the spring and fares are $800+ from CLE/CAK to any decent island, vs. $500 and change from PIT!! That's some difference and I don't get it. Maybe the lake effect snow is that much worse here in CLE so people are itching that much more to go warm in the winter.

Does USA3000 fly to a CLE-area airport? They have bilboards all over PIT advertising PIT-CUN for like $79 one way...
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:07 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 16):
Does USA3000 fly to a CLE-area airport?

Yes they fly to CLE.

Quoting Ncflyer (Reply 15):
This is a question that really makes me scratch my head.

I am glad you agree with me!
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:30 pm

I'd agree with Flaps. Since US Airways has pulled back, Pittsburgh has become more competitive. I can't speak for CLE or CAK, but there are a few options on most routes from PIT. I won't be complaining.

I wonder if ExpressJet's, err... Continental's hub has anything to do with CLE's fares.

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 14):
UA: A319 and 733s to DEN and ORD...
CO: I think a 737 to IAH, but not sure
DL: MD88s to ATL

Yeah, DL has thrown in a MD-88 to CVG, as well. I believe it becomes a 737-800 in January.

Continental has three 737's to IAH, two -500's and a -700, plus two ERJ's.

United has actually deployed more and more Express on the ORD-PIT route lately. They have four CRJ-700's and three 737's right now. A few summers ago it was 7 mainline. Two 737's on the DEN-PIT route.

Northwest is sending all mainline to PIT (DC-9's of all sizes), except for the MEM flights.
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:48 pm

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 13):
Well AA doesn't fly to CAK at all and CLE only sees Eagle also, so looks like if I want to fly AA it will be Eagle. I am not a big fan of US but I know PIT sees some mainline from UA, CO and DL.

Rumor has it that AA will bringing back mainline service PIT-DFW. I heard this was to occur in mid January.

AA: All Express service from PIT-DFW/ORD/LGA/MIA.

NW: All mainline service from PIT-DTW/MSP. All Express service from PIT-MEM.

CO: Mainline from PIT-IAH. Express service from PIT-IAH/EWR/CLE.

DL: Mainline from PIT-ATL/CVG. Express from PIT-ATL/CVG/JFK.

UA: Mainline from PIT-ORD/DEN. Express from PIT-ORD/IAD.

US: Mainline from PIT-BOS/CLT/DCA/DEN/FLL/LAS/LAX/LGA/MCO/MIA/ORD/PBI/PHL/PHX/RSW/SFO/TPA/CUN/SJU.

I think you will enjoy your PIT experience, and will hopefully return.
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:56 pm

Quoting N670UW (Reply 18):
Since US Airways has pulled back, Pittsburgh has become more competitive. I can't speak for CLE or CAK, but there are a few options on most routes from PIT. I won't be complaining.

Yeah, I quit my complaining of the PIT pulldown already. WN and B6, and numerous other LCCs have flooded the gates after US dehubbed. Flights may have come down at PIT, but more importantly did fares...

Quoting N670UW (Reply 18):
DL has thrown in a MD-88 to CVG, as well. I believe it becomes a 737-800 in January.

I thought they already tried a 737 earlier this year and it didn't not do well. If they do throw on a 738, I wish it well!

Quoting N670UW (Reply 18):
Continental has three 737's to IAH, two -500's and a -700, plus two ERJ's.

Wow... I didn't realize they had that much mainline. What ERJs do they run? 145?

Quoting N670UW (Reply 18):
Northwest is sending all mainline to PIT (DC-9's of all sizes), except for the MEM flights.

Yeah, I saw that when I looked up flypittsburgh.com. I happened to see a DTW flight that appeared to be mainline "it was 3 digits" as opposed to flights like 5xxx or 7xxx like the ones to MEM. It would be nice to see NW fly an ERJ to IND, but I believe Republic flies enough of them out there for US Express, and they are E70s and soon-to-be E175s!!!
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:20 pm

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 19):
Rumor has it that AA will bringing back mainline service PIT-DFW. I heard this was to occur in mid January.

Just a rumor for now. Most employees dont see this happening even though the flights are full all the time. They just dont want to hire the people I guess.

As far as Republic, I just read on flypittsburgh.com that the are adding a bunch of flights next year. Heres the article...

Republic Airways has major operations at Pittsburgh International Airport where it operates an aircraft maintenance facility and its subsidiaries currently operate 17 daily departures as US Airways Express. The company currently employs more than 175 aviation professionals in the Pittsburgh area. Beginning in February 2007 Republic’s Republic Airlines subsidiary will operate 86-passenger Embraer 175 aircraft out of Pittsburgh International Airport as US Airways Express.

You can read the entire thing at www.flypittsburgh.com then click on news and then select current press releases.
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:22 pm

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 20):
It would be nice to see NW fly an ERJ to IND, but I believe Republic flies enough of them out there for US Express, and they are E70s and soon-to-be E175s!!!

PIT-IND (1x DH8 and 3x E70)


If this route goes to E75, I think it will lose a frequency.
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:31 pm

I can't imagine AA bringing mainline back for just one flight. Seems they would rather make stations all AE rather than just have a small amount of mainline. So that area consists of:

CLE - ALL AE
CAK - NO AA/AE Service
PIT - ALL AE
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:47 pm

Yeah I dont see them bringing it back. Would be nice though. They are doing well with the AE service.
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:01 pm

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 16):
Does USA3000 fly to a CLE-area airport? They have bilboards all over PIT advertising PIT-CUN for like $79 one way...

Hmm... I tried booking a PIT-CUN one-week round trip in February and the best fare I could get from USA3000 was $468 - from US it was $588. FWIW, the same trip from CLE on USA3000 was the identical fare with CO at $462. CLE and PIT had the identical $498 USA3000 fares to Punta Cana. CLE also has a $558 trip to Puerto Vallarta, which I don't believe is available from PIT.

However PIT does seem to have some real bargains to San Juan and Nassau with the same Feb trip to SJU costing $228 (vs $586 from CLE) and NAS costing $208 (vs $387 from CLE).

I only checked non-stop flights. That $79 deal must be for the fall, when tropical travel is light.

A couple of friends have already had trouble getting the island they wanted at the time they wanted. Sounds like a busy Carib/Mex resort season this year.
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:09 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 5):
Quoting ATLAaron (Thread starter):
With these low yields it is not wonder PIT sees a lot of Express service, and I also can't see why anyone would want to expand there.

HELLO, no airlines are expanding PIT! Republic Airways is however opening up heavy maintenance for the E70 and E75.

hmm... well so they get a nice mx base, but there hasn't been a increase in flights.....

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 9):
Never been to PIT airport so I am excited. I have a trip booked out of there in Jan on AA PIT-DFW-MCO and back. Does AA mainline have anything going into PIT?

Nope. Nothing on the books to add later...

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 19):
Rumor has it that AA will bringing back mainline service PIT-DFW. I heard this was to occur in mid January.

CLE DFW has been hearing that for over 2 years... don't hold your breath..
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:00 am

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 21):
Republic Airways has major operations at Pittsburgh International Airport where it operates an aircraft maintenance facility and its subsidiaries currently operate 17 daily departures as US Airways Express. The company currently employs more than 175 aviation professionals in the Pittsburgh area. Beginning in February 2007 Republic’s Republic Airlines subsidiary will operate 86-passenger Embraer 175 aircraft out of Pittsburgh International Airport as US Airways Express.

You can read the entire thing at www.flypittsburgh.com then click on news and then select current press releases.

And there is also my thread, "Republic growing PIT."

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 22):
PIT-IND (1x DH8 and 3x E70)


If this route goes to E75, I think it will lose a frequency.

Yeah, I think you're right about that, or perhaps they'll repace an E70 with an E75. I don't think that's removing a frequency. If this is the case, the frequencies stay the same, just one is upgraded to an E75

Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 26):
Quoting CentPIT (Reply 19):
Rumor has it that AA will bringing back mainline service PIT-DFW. I heard this was to occur in mid January.

CLE DFW has been hearing that for over 2 years... don't hold your breath..

Yeah, I will believe this if/when I either see it or see about it...
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:18 pm

Steeler83 and CentPIT, (anyone else is welcome to chime in too please)

I sent you both PM's asking if you thought $302 RT PIT-SFO was a bad price. However, I made a mistake. . . I meant to say PIT-LAX.

So the question for everyone, do you think $302 is a fair price for RT PIT-LAX, or should I hold out for a better price?
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:28 pm

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 28):
So the question for everyone, do you think $302 is a fair price for RT PIT-LAX, or should I hold out for a better price?

I think it's fair. It's not a great fare, but I've seen it higher, as well. I think it's a pretty standard, middle-of-the-road coach fare.

It depends on if you want to wait. You might get a better fare if you wait, but it might go up, as well.

I've flown to LAX from PIT for under $200 R/T on United (connecting through O'Hare), but that was a couple years ago when fares industry-wide were lower.

It's not a bad fare. I think it just depends on how long you're willing to wait and how far out your trip is.

Personally, I'd probably wait a bit and keep an eye on it. But that's just me.
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:26 pm

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 28):
I sent you both PM's asking if you thought $302 RT PIT-SFO was a bad price. However, I made a mistake. . . I meant to say PIT-LAX.

I don't think it's a bad fare either. Considering that US charged that one way... TO PHL!!!

That is $151 one way to LAX. I have seen lower fares to CA, maybe not on US, as N670UW has stated.

BTW, that $302 OW fare from PIT-PHL, I was referring to the dismal hub days... Did I just call the hub dismal??? Hold on, need to drink something...  drunk 

HAHA, nah I am fine y'al. I think the hub caused PIT more pain than it did benefit if you ask me. How about those fares, like the one I brought up. It was nice to see US have a large station, but it was overkill in more ways than one come to think of it...

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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:53 pm

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 30):
That is $151 one way to LAX. I have seen lower fares to CA, maybe not on US, as N670UW has stated.

I think I'll go with it. It is on DL btw not US.
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:44 pm

What part of Youngstown are you planning on living in? I see that you aren't old enough to worry about school districts.
The drive to Pit is a whole lot easier than driving to CLE. Route 60 straight to the airport has very light traffic, and very few Troopers to give you a hard time when you are running late. Depending on where you leave from it can be about a 45 minute drive.

A trip to Cleveland is at least an hour of hectic busy roads. I personally avoid Cleveland at all costs.

I've never been to CAK, but have heard that it is a nice small airport with up front parking.

I'm just a country bumpkin though. When I lived in ATL I hated the traffic. Scared the crap out of me.
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:06 am

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 28):
So the question for everyone, do you think $302 is a fair price for RT PIT-LAX, or should I hold out for a better price?

I paid $250 September of 05 round trip on American. So I think this is rather fair. Could be better but is still fair.
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:37 am

Quoting Fokker Lover (Reply 32):
What part of Youngstown are you planning on living in? I see that you aren't old enough to worry about school districts.

We got an apartment in Boardman. I am 25 and married so school districts are a couple years away from being a concern. I have a work from home job so I can basically live anywhere in the country. Well my wife has family in the YNG area and rent is certainly cheaper there than in Buckhead (ATL). Going to live there just for a couple of years till we save up enough to build. Not sure where we will build yet though.

So you would take 76 to 60 to get to PIT?
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:39 am

Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 26):
hmm... well so they get a nice mx base, but there hasn't been a increase in flights.....

That is exactly what I said! Republic is opening a rather large MX base, not adding flights? Why do people do what you do?

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 28):
sent you both PM's asking if you thought $302 RT PIT-SFO was a bad price. However, I made a mistake. . . I meant to say PIT-LAX.

I would personally wait a bit longer. Are you connecting through CVG? If they have you going through ATL, Def. wait it out!


What dates are you traveling?
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:58 am

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 34):
We got an apartment in Boardman. I am 25 and married so school districts are a couple years away from being a concern. I have a work from home job so I can basically live anywhere in the country. Well my wife has family in the YNG area and rent is certainly cheaper there than in Buckhead (ATL). Going to live there just for a couple of years till we save up enough to build. Not sure where we will build yet though.

So you would take 76 to 60 to get to PIT?

I am not really sure of what part of Youngstown Boardman is on, but taking the OH/PA Turnpike to PA 60 does seem to be the way to go.

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 35):
Are you connecting through CVG? If they have you going through ATL, Def. wait it out!

That is what I am wondering as well given that the PIT-LAX flight for $302 is with DL and not US. CVG connection would be more direct if you ask me...
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:27 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 37):
I am not really sure of what part of Youngstown Boardman is on

Boardman is next to Canfield if you know where that is. It would be West of Youngstown.

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 36):
Are you connecting through CVG?

Both CVG and ATL were available for the same price.
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:28 am

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 34):
So you would take 76 to 60 to get to PIT?

You could do that. It might be a little quicker.
I personally continue South on 7 (Market St.) to 14 in Columbiana. Left on 14 takes you to Rte 51 Chippewa. Then South on 60. It's a nice country drive with no traffic or tolls. I make the drive everyday though, so it's not worth my while to pay the tolls. After you learn the area, you'll find that 165 is a shortcut to 14 in Unity Township.

I also recommend heading West on 224 towards Canfield. After the A&W Rootbeer, but before Tippecanoe Rd. there is a plaza on the left hand side. Stop in and eat at the Blue Wolf Tavern. It's a nice place with good food, and they don't rape you on the prices.
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:34 am

Quoting Fokker Lover (Reply 39):
Stop in and eat at the Blue Wolf Tavern.

Been there! And yes it is very good and reasonable. My apartment will be basically right behind there.
 
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:02 am

I know where you're at. You can take Tippecanoe to Western Reserve Rd. then to Market Street. Turn Right on Market. The turnpike is about 1/2 a mile from there.

It's not Atlanta. Hell, it's not even Cleveland. There's not much entertainment. You need to eat, and shop early because they roll up the streets at 10:00 PM. I still like it better though. Welcome home.
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RE: Why Are Fares So Low At PIT?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:05 am

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 38):
It would be West of Youngstown.

Ah, then it would work for ya...

Quoting Fokker Lover (Reply 39):
I personally continue South on 7 (Market St.) to 14 in Columbiana. Left on 14 takes you to Rte 51 Chippewa. Then South on 60. It's a nice country drive with no traffic or tolls. I make the drive everyday though, so it's not worth my while to pay the tolls. After you learn the area, you'll find that 165 is a shortcut to 14 in Unity Township.

I never thought about this possibility. Sure, whatever you can do to get out of paying toles!  Smile
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