ikramerica
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Round The World Airlines...

Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:51 pm

If it's been discussed before, so what, it's probably out of date.

With NZ now flying to LHR "both ways" they are an airline that you can fly completely around the world, and probably also the longest trip to do it.

You can also do so on SQ (if you count JFK and EWR as one place).

Are there any others? Maybe Air India?

(routes like EWR-HKG where you go around the pole on opposite sides depending on the winds don't count...)
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Viscount724
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:54 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Thread starter):
With NZ now flying to LHR "both ways" they are an airline that you can fly completely around the world, and probably also the longest trip to do it.

You can also do so on SQ (if you count JFK and EWR as one place).

Are there any others? Maybe Air India?

No others as far as I know. AI only operates to North America via the Atlantic, not the Pacific.
 
timz
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:59 am

Does LH still fly cargo across the Pacific?
 
kiwiinoz
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:12 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Thread starter):
With NZ now flying to LHR "both ways" they are an airline that you can fly completely around the world, and probably also the longest trip to do it.

Technically, this is the only one. Does anyone know how good their loads are so far on HKG-LHR?
 
Viscount724
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:23 am

CNN International's weekly travel program (CNN Business Traveller) a few hours ago featured the NZ Round the World service. It followed their reporter, Richard Quest, on NZ flights AKL-HKG-LHR-LAX-AKL, with video of their inflight service (business class flat beds) etc. They had another reporter on a HKG-London Gatwick flight of the new HKG-based low cost carrier, Oasis Hong Kong Airlines, comparing their inflight products with NZ HKG-LHR.

The CNN Business Traveller program is repeated on Thursday according to their website. I'm not sure whether it's shown on CNN in the US, or only on CNN International.

[Edited 2006-11-13 02:31:07]

[Edited 2006-11-13 02:33:08]
 
cedarjet
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:23 am

There used to be a few - BOAC (how nice to fly a BOAC VC10 from LA to Tahiti, or Auckland to Beirut?) springs to mind, and Qantas deserve special mention for having two different routes around the world, one went via S Pacific to Acapulco, Mexico City, Bermuda, LHR; the other went via N Pacific to HNL, LAX (&/or SFO?), JFK, LHR. Similar variations across Asia. And that was in the mid 50s, before jets. The trans-Atlantic link ended in 1970 and NY ended in 72, only restarted in the last few years. Can't imagine we'll ever see them cross the pond again.
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Avatordon
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:32 am

JL used to fly to JFK via HNL and SFO then, depending on day of week to either London or Paris. AF also had an odd route - LIM - PPT - TYO - just so they could say they flew it. These were a while ago.
 
soups
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:49 am

UA use to fly a round the world flight prior to 9-11
UA001 went from LAX-HKG-DEL-LHR-JFK-LAX. UA002 was the reverse

[Edited 2006-11-13 03:57:43]
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Viscount724
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:52 am

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 5):
There used to be a few - BOAC (how nice to fly a BOAC VC10 from LA to Tahiti, or Auckland to Beirut?) springs to mind, and Qantas deserve special mention for having two different routes around the world, one went via S Pacific to Acapulco, Mexico City, Bermuda, LHR; the other went via N Pacific to HNL, LAX (&/or SFO?), JFK, LHR.

The two QF routings via the Pacific and Atlantic to LHR in B707 days were SYD-NAN-HNL-SFO-JFK-LHR and SYD-PPT-ACA-MEX-NAS-BDA-LHR. The first QF route via SFO-JFK (then IDL/Idlewild of course) began using L1049G Super Constellations, a couple of years before QF's first 707s arrived in 1959.

Apart from BOAC and QF's former Round the World service, there were quite a few others at one time or another, including Pan Am, TWA, Japan Air Lines, Air France and (more recently) United, and possibly one or two others I'm overlooking. I am not including carriers that operated both the old Polar route between Europe and Tokyo via Anchorage (in the days before nonstops across Siberia were feasible), and the longer Eastern Hemisphere route via various points in the Middle East, India, Bangkok, Hong Kong etc.
 
bhxdtw
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:09 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 4):
CNN International's weekly travel program (CNN Business Traveller) a few hours ago featured the NZ Round the World service. It followed their reporter, Richard Quest, on NZ flights AKL-HKG-LHR-LAX-AKL, with video of their inflight service (business class flat beds) etc. They had another reporter on a HKG-London Gatwick flight of the new HKG-based low cost carrier, Oasis Hong Kong Airlines, comparing their inflight products with NZ HKG-LHR

Isnt that a wee bit daft ?
I mean... arnt the two airlines quite different in terms of clientele ??
Ive not seen pics of the new Oasis HK business class, but I think im pretty much safe in saying it wont have anything near as classy as the new NZ seats up front... I thought Oasis was oriented (no pun intended) towards the low cost leisure traveller and maybe the budget conscious business traveller ??

joe
 
cedarjet
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:37 pm

Just to add, the Pan Am rtw flights (PA1 & PA2) were quite political, Pan Am was after all The Chosen Instrument, so they stopped in Saigon for most of the 60s, and getting there via Europe would nowadays be the Terrorist Express, JFK-LHR-Europe...so far so good, but then it went Beirut (7 a week!), Tehran, Karachi... Yikes.
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Fly2CHC
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:20 pm

UTA used to have NOU-PPT-LAX-ORY one way, and NOU-SYD-KUL-CMB-ORY the other with their DC10s.
 
madairdrie
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:50 pm

Quoting SOUPS (Reply 7):
UA use to fly a round the world flight prior to 9-11
UA001 went from LAX-HKG-DEL-LHR-JFK-LAX. UA002 was the reverse

Although it must be difficult to work out where a round the world flight starts, I thought the United 001 started in JFK. Not that it really matters, for what I always found amazing at LHR terminal 3 was the arrivals board which read UA001 From New York last stop Delhi.
Kenneth
 
timz
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:48 am

UA's RTW in 2001 started in LAX, both directions. And it was via IAD, not JFK. (Their RTW-with-a-plane-change flight had stopped at JFK at one point.)
 
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RE: Round The World Airlines...

Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:53 am

OK the UTA flight was actually CDG-SFO-PPT-AKL-NOU on the DC10-30 and from there you could transfer on the 747-400 for the NOU-SYD-CGK-SIN-CDG.
The routing varied as you could also do CDG-SFO-LAX-PPT-AKL-NOU and then NOU-SYD-SIN-CMB-MCT-CDG...
UTA had in my opinion one of the greatest round-the-world flight as you could go to so many places with just one carrier !

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