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Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:00 am

Hi there - I recently returned from Europe and couldn't help but noticed how flight attendants, especially in Europe (i.e. AF/KLM), Asia (SQ, CX), or the Middle East (EK), were all literally good-looking. Has anyone noticed that? Would they really hire someone equally capable with below or average looks?
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:08 am

Depends which airline you go for. Asian carriers most definately go for looks but their education requirements are very strict but also many European Airlines have strict uniform and appearance standards (i.e jewellery, hair, facial hair, make up) which help make the crew look smarter. As a general rule, if the airline says send a full length photograph then they're probably focusing on looks.
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:14 am

HI,

I have several Friends FA at AF and they explained me that there is no official "physical and look" (forbidden by french law) selection but there is a test where you have to show how your capacity to help, move, etc...which is quite subjective. it is during this test test that there is a look selection. There is also a minimum/maximum height and weight criteria.

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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:21 am

I think that on US airlines physical appearance / personality is not a criteria like it is in other countries. However it seems that physical appearance is more a criteria for women than men and that in a way is a form of discrimination.
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:26 am

Quoting B777A340Fan (Thread starter):
Hi there - I recently returned from Europe and couldn't help but noticed how flight attendants, especially in Europe (i.e. AF/KLM), Asia (SQ, CX), or the Middle East (EK), were all literally good-looking. Has anyone noticed that? Would they really hire someone equally capable with below or average looks?

I had heard some people talk about the superiority of European FA's. Lucky for me I was able to sample a few flights last month and was quite amused to see that the generalization here on a.net really is a myth - the BA flights I was on: scruffy, overweight, old, miserable looking. That is purely just my perception of looks. As for their personality, what little we were exposed to, they seemed okay.

Now the Virgin flights were very different. On the outbound, the FA's we had upstairs were young and full of life. On the return, the FA's we had upstairs were older (but definitely not old - I mean maybe 30 instead of 20) and while very pleasant, they were definitely more "experienced" - their personality seemed more practiced and less genuine, if you know what I mean.
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:30 am

Quoting B777A340Fan (Thread starter):
Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Not at DL.  Wink
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:34 am

Quoting Pope (Reply 5):
Not at DL.

Or any US carrier for that matter, have you seen what flies for AA?
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:41 am

It is considered Discrimination in the US if you go solely by looks. However the EU and Asian carriers generally hire for looks. I have had several flights on non-US carriers and the FA's are much more attractive.
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:10 am

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 7):
It is considered Discrimination in the US if you go solely by looks.

Yes, that's the reason why I think a lot of the american flight attendants are not as good-looking as their asian/european counterparts. However, as Marcus380 pointed out, there are more subjective ways to select flight attendants without invoking a discrimination lawsuit, you know?
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:12 am

I don´t think so...I´ve seen many non-good-looking FA´s in many airlines!
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:52 am

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 6):
Or any US carrier for that matter, have you seen what flies for AA?

Two exceptions to the rule are F9 & B6. Most of my F9 flights & B6 flights, the FA's are good looking, young and full of energy.
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:13 am

I recently found a photo of my mother's graduating class from the stewardess school - circa 1966.

I was astounded at what I saw. Every single one of them was gorgeous.

What a pleasure it must've been to fly on Eastern Airlines in the late 1960's!
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:14 am

First off, with the exception of certain geographic regions, I would say that Americans as a whole aren't as good looking as Europeans or Asians. It might come across as discrimination, but Americans tend to be more overweight. So your selection pool is different, so even if the same standards were in place in all three places, you would still get more attractive flight attendants in certain parts of the world. However I do think that there is more bias than demographic differences alone.

Quoting Semsem (Reply 3):
However it seems that physical appearance is more a criteria for women than men and that in a way is a form of discrimination.

I'm not so sure. I've never seen an overweight male flight attendant, but plenty of overweight females. It is also fairly easy to restrict overweight males from applying by not supplying oversized uniforms and keeping the largest pant size on the smaller end.
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:19 am

Quoting Khobar (Reply 4):
I had heard some people talk about the superiority of European FA's. Lucky for me I was able to sample a few flights last month and was quite amused to see that the generalization here on a.net really is a myth - the BA flights I was on: scruffy, overweight, old, miserable looking. That is purely just my perception of looks. As for their personality, what little we were exposed to, they seemed okay.

Now the Virgin flights were very different. On the outbound, the FA's we had upstairs were young and full of life. On the return, the FA's we had upstairs were older (but definitely not old - I mean maybe 30 instead of 20) and while very pleasant, they were definitely more "experienced" - their personality seemed more practiced and less genuine, if you know what I mean

Shall we be forced to retire at 27 maybe?

A sad fact of life i'm afraid. If we are recruited at 25 and wish to stay for 20 years then why the hell shouldn't we?

Looking scruffy or miserable is another case.

But then again, scruffiness or being miserable is something completely seperate to 'looks'.

Let's face it, a 22 year old international catwalk model can look scruffy and miserable.

Got nothing to do with 'looks' at all.
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:23 am

What I've noticed recently in looking at F/A appearance is that it is not that they are ugly (male or female) it is that the uniforms most of them have on the domestic carriers in the US are just bad. And there are some uniform combinations that just look awful (like the shorts and pantyhose combo some F/As like to wear). Very bland colors, poor fabrics, bad tailoring, etc. You give them a stylish, comfortable uniform most of the cabin crew would look much much better. I would gather that the crews wouldn't mind more stylish uniforms either, given that they wouldn't be prohibitively expensive for them to get and maintain.

I generally don't care if the flight attendant is a stunner or not. They're there to serve me and provide for my safety, not give me a lap dance.
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:41 am

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 7):
It is considered Discrimination in the US if you go solely by looks. However the EU and Asian carriers generally hire for looks.

Same in Europe, but there are easy ways around that.
Require a photo in the application and reject the bad looking ones on some other ground ("sorry, we don't think based on your profile that you'd fit in our team", "sorry, we have enough applicants at this time but we've saved your resume for the future", etc. etc.)/
During the interview (if the applicant makes it that far) looks can also be easily gauged and reasons made up to reject people who don't look good "enough".

It's the same with every restriction placed on job criteria.
Age discrimination is also against the law, but is just as easy to do and hide.
Just claim you're a "dynamic team" and then reject older people because you "don't think you'll fit into the team". Standard rejection clause in IT for anyone over 30 (as I've experienced a lot when I was out of a job a few years ago).

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 14):
I generally don't care if the flight attendant is a stunner or not. They're there to serve me and provide for my safety, not give me a lap dance.

Well said. Competence and customer centric attitude are far more important than good looks.
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:56 am

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 14):
They're there to serve me and provide for my safety, not give me a lap dance.

What?? Dang, nobody told me. I'm gonna have to stop carrying so much cash and flashing it at the flight attendants when I fly.
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:22 am

Quoting B777A340Fan (Thread starter):
Has anyone noticed that? Would they really hire someone equally capable with below or average looks?

I did recruitment in 1999 and 2000. We used to hold an open house in several cities around the country. I used to have criteria of what I used to look for.
1. Appearance: How a person looked in the clothing they picked out. If it looked conservative, professional and looked like someone took pride in their appearance. That's the first impression
2. Presentation: The way they present themselves.
3. Attentiveness: Are they paying attention, of which i'd find out duringthe quick one on one.
4. Disposition: Are they happy? Do they look hapy to be here?
5. Approachability: Would a customer feel comfortable asking this person for help?
6. Qualifications: What kind of experiance did they have and did they meet the minimum qualifications?

During the initial screening after the cattle call, I had a piece of paper with 10 words on it. If the candidate mentioned 2 of those words(in no order of importance), I would recommend them for the 1 on 1.
1. Teamwork
2. Safety
3. Awareness
4. Adaptable
5. Empathy
6. Approachability
7. Culture
8. Professionalism
9. Honest
10. Dependabilty
Looks, or any other physical entity, never entered into the equation. I turned down women and men who "looked" the part of a fight attendant, but just didn't get it. It was all about them and had nothing to say about helping or doing things for others or their fellow crewmembers. Some of the girls were drop-dead georgous, but I didn't listen to my penis. I picked candidates with substance over flash and charisma.

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 14):
give me a lap dance.

That would be interesting.
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:24 am

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 14):
You give them a stylish, comfortable uniform most of the cabin crew would look much much better.

True, true. I believe most people can become good looking also by simply smiling. Personality shines through a lot more than makeup does.  yes 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:24 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 12):
First off, with the exception of certain geographic regions, I would say that Americans as a whole aren't as good looking as Europeans or Asians. It might come across as discrimination, but Americans tend to be more overweight. So your selection pool is different, so even if the same standards were in place in all three places, you would still get more attractive flight attendants in certain parts of the world. However I do think that there is more bias than demographic differences alone.

Quoting Semsem (Reply 3):However it seems that physical appearance is more a criteria for women than men and that in a way is a form of discrimination.
I'm not so sure. I've never seen an overweight male flight attendant, but plenty of overweight females. It is also fairly easy to restrict overweight males from applying by not supplying oversized uniforms and keeping the largest pant size on the smaller end.

Very interesting what you say about americans generally being more over weight.. This has nothing to do with looks in the end but personal lifestyle and the food thats eaten.. If i lived in America and had to eat the food there i too would put on a few kilos ...Unfortunately nearly every American restaurant i have been to give QUANTITY over QUALITY ..
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:35 am

what is the general cut off age for new recruits?
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:08 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 12):
First off, with the exception of certain geographic regions, I would say that Americans as a whole aren't as good looking as Europeans or Asians. It might come across as discrimination, but Americans tend to be more overweight. So your selection pool is different

I actually agree with this - I don't think it's discrimination if what you're saying is actually true. (We are statistically more overweight than all Asian countries I know of.)

I just flew JAL to Japan a month or so ago. I didn't think their F/A's were anything other than average looking Japanese. The Japanese in general are in pretty good shape, and because the culture is basically homogeneous, there's not usually a huge amount of height variation. So it really is more a question of face, and that is highly subjective, but to me, most of the JAL F/A's I saw were no better or worse looking than an average Japanese. But they were better looking than most American F/A's simply because they tend to be younger (Japanese flight attendants don't stick around too long - it's cultural. It's thought of as a young person's job) and because the Japanese in general are less overweight than Americans.

So I doubt there's any more or less thought given to looks in other countries than there is in the US. I think to an extent, every hiring manager subconsciously considers looks even if he/she tries to avoid it for legal or other reasons. But I think most American F/A's look basically like average Americans, just as most Asian F/A's look basically like average Asians.
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:19 am

Quoting BAStew (Reply 13):
Shall we be forced to retire at 27 maybe?

OK. Maybe you can stay until 35 as long as you don't have kids.

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 7):
It is considered Discrimination in the US if you go solely by looks.

I'm not aware of any law that says you can't discriminate based upon looks. I know that sex, race, religion, age, and national origin are protected classes but to the best of my knowledge looks aren't. Can anyone point me to some law that says otherwise?
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:13 am

Well beauty is "relative".........., agree the uniforms are just blaaaa for the most part so they do not help at all and age does not count as I have seen some extremely h... 40's/50's year old grrrr but yes there are airlines were "looks" are on top of the list, ever seen these "top models" w/o make up?? whuuuuu

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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:45 am

Well I know that this probably means nothing but, when I applied for QX, I origionaly was trying to get a ticket counter job and working at the gate. I got the job and when I was in SEA getting ready for training, the ladie that was working with me here in FAT to interview me said she would rather have me work as an FA because she said I looked really nice and would have the appeal to be one. I declined naturally because of wanting to be home in California and not hopping around.
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:35 am

Quoting B777A340Fan (Thread starter):
Would they really hire someone equally capable with below or average looks?

Yes - because I got hired  Silly
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:02 am

Not only have I noticed how flight attendants on airlines from Europe and the Middle East tend to be very young, but especially in the case of the Middle East, they tend to be exclusively female.

Here's what I mean, take a look at MEA's flight attendants:




For males, I've only seen them being pursers, but all flight attendants on MEA are female, and not only that, they're in their early 20's. I guess they don't hire male FAs at all.

Royal Jordanian is a similar case as well.

In the case of Europe, I think BA is a slight exception. I've had a lot of older F/As on my BA flights, both on transatlantic flights and on European flights.

KLM on the otherhand is a completely different matter, though it's been 6 years since I last flew KLM.
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:16 am

You sure don't have to be good-looking anymore at U.S. carriers, not since 1969 or so. Just look at what's flying around these days. Sometimes I think AA goes out of its way to hire ugly people. I'm embarrassed by a lot of my co-workers, in terms of their looks and their poor work ethic as well.
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:42 am

I've seen gorgeous FA's on every airline I've ever been on and unattractive FA's. That includes the asian carriers although they were all very well groomed there were some with (imho) plain features and horsey teeth. The uniform you are given to work with makes a huge difference. I remember when ACA turned into Independence and all of a sudden we had cute uniforms. FA's who used to look like they'd rolled out of bed all of a sudden were going to great lengths to look good and they were smiling which made a huge difference.
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:03 pm

GOL has some nice looking ones  Smile
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:11 pm

Quoting B777A340Fan (Thread starter):
I recently returned from Europe and couldn't help but noticed how flight attendants, especially in Europe (i.e. AF/KLM), Asia (SQ, CX), or the Middle East (EK), were all literally good-looking.

You've got to remember that almost everyone is good looking to someone. The people who recruit flight attendants are generally flight attendants in management positions.

Within the U.S., much of the weight restrictions are gone. I know a bad completion can cause you some trouble. Make-up on women is required at most airlines.

Generally speaking you have to be well groomed, well spoken and responsible. The rest is very subjective and difficult to evaluate.

There are many, very unattractive (to me) flight attendants out there.
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:29 pm

The standards in the U.S are very low(thanks to equal employment laws) because being an FA is not as glamorous as it used to be so naturally ladies are not going for it. It also has to do with the fact that being an FA in the U.S is a career job, other parts of the world it can be considered a part time thing so mostly they'll be 20-30 year olds. Have you ever waited at the international arrivals, if you notice the European and Asian crews, it's like they stepped out of a beauty magazine, especially the Asian FAs, it's like they have this aura behind them. Compare that to a United crew after 10 hour flight. However, all hope is not lost in the U.S, if you want to see good looking FAs try the regional airlines(Skywest), they're all young and more enthusiastic about their job.

[Edited 2006-11-14 05:32:11]
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:32 pm

It's always advantageous when looking for a high profile, public-face-of-the-company job to be, as you put it, good looking.

If two people, equally qualified and equally suited, are applying for a single role, the prettier or more handsome one will get the benefit of the doubt if the role is in the public eye.

I think there is an issue when the less qualified or less suited gets the role contingent on their looks. The customer ends up losing. Mind you, in a few countries, people know they not need bother applying if they're anything less than knock-outs.

Call me old fashioned, but I always like a bit of eye candy when I fly (I tend to not fly American airlines).

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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:32 pm

My sister is a flight attendant for one of the US legacy carriers. In the late 80's, she and her friends had to meet strict weight limits in order to keep their jobs. The airlines were sued and had to drop that and other requirements they used to maintain image.

I've flown all over the world, as a passenger and as crew (flight deck- we can be as ugly as we want!). There are good looking cabin crews anywhere you go. Some airlines are still allowed to recruit based on looks and it shows. Some airlines require crews to quit/retire at a rather young age. The US airlines get knocked for the cabin crew's looks. With the laws in the US the way they are, that isn't going to change anytime soon!
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:42 pm

One thing's for sure, the guy doing the hiring at Jetsgo, was not gay. I do indeed miss the thigh length fake leather jackets and the Oh-so-green mini skirts.
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:48 pm

Quoting Khobar (Reply 4):
Now the Virgin flights were very different. On the outbound, the FA's we had upstairs were young and full of life. On the return, the FA's we had upstairs were older (but definitely not old - I mean maybe 30 instead of 20) and while very pleasant, they were definitely more "experienced" - their personality seemed more practiced and less genuine, if you know what I mean.

So you are saying that for FAs, retirement must be compulsory at 30 when they are 'old' and less full of life? Well I would much, much rather have an old Nanny McPhee who performs her job diligently than some bimbo whose looks and personality cover up her inadequacy for the job.

Quoting B777A340Fan (Thread starter):
Would they really hire someone equally capable with below or average looks?

In the UK it would be illegal to refuse someone a vacant job on the grounds that he/she has below or average looks, so the employer would obviously have to cite a different reason. Some airlines have different criteria, but I know that VS places more emphasis in selecting recruits on looks, youth and personality rather than their suitability for the job and their experience.
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:33 pm

Quoting ReidYYZ (Reply 34):
One thing's for sure, the guy doing the hiring at Jetsgo, was not gay. I do indeed miss the thigh length fake leather jackets and the Oh-so-green mini skirts.

Could not agree more, specially waiting at Timis in T3 (very slow service) made my waiting extremely easy..........

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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:52 pm

Why do you think it is that some airlines always have a constant recruitment drive for young people?

Because their turnover is so high and they can't keep people (poor pay, human resource management, conditions) they always have to recruit maybe?

Of course this can be advantageous to the airlines also. Few pension contributions, few climb up the payscale.

SQ has one of the highest turnover in cabin crew in the industry. The majority of the SIN based BA girls are ex SQ. The stories they tell of the onboard bullying (yes bullying) and strictly (almost military like) standards enforced upon them are amazing. They say few of the crew actually enjoy the job, but by local standards it pays ok and looks good on the CV. From what they say, few crew hang around SQ for more than a couple years. So they constantly recruit new, young crew (predominantly girls) from the ASEAN countries.

We were stood behind a SQ crew at the immigration desks in EWR the other week. They had just operated the non-stop A345 flight from SIN. We struck up a conversation with a couple of then. 18:45 was their flight time! What amazed me though, is that after operating their long, long 18:50 flight back to SIN, they were to receive TWO days off at home before setting off again. The two girls I was speaking to were then flying westerly to LHR. How long could you live that sort of life (factoring in all the jetlag) before 'burn out'.

We felt a little guilty given that we have a minimum of three days off at home after our short hop home to London from EWR.

[Edited 2006-11-14 14:55:42]
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:57 pm

I would much rather have a f/a who loved their job, than one who though was too pretty to do what they were paid to do.
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:00 pm

Quoting EasternSon (Reply 11):
I recently found a photo of my mother's graduating class from the stewardess school - circa 1966.

I was astounded at what I saw. Every single one of them was gorgeous.

I guess it was more important some years ago..
Nowadays it's not a real criteria anymore (what I think to be a good developement).
Actually I can just speak for OS, there F/As had to have at least A-levels to work for them. (and be stuck in those terrible all-over-red uniforms :-P)
But they droped this criteria some years ago.
So in Austria the glorious job of being a F/A really lost it's state.
Now it's more like being a waiter in a restaurant (also cuz u don't get paid so well any more). At least that's what people say when somebody mentiones "I become a F/A" - "Really, why you don't serve in a restaurant around the corner?" .. but well, they don't really think about the assistance and responsibility in emergencies etc. well..
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:14 pm

F/A's are on board for safety first and customer service second, not for sexual opportunites. There is no doubt that until the late 1980's high levels of beauty and appearance, including a certain sexual appeal (especially of female f/a's) were a higher priority and part of the advertising of most airlines especially those based in Asia.
I would also suggest that airlines do take appearance in account in selecting f/a's, but it also has to be balanced with other more important qualifications. To me, airlines will look for good grooming, including use of makeup, hair care, good choices in clothing for their body and so on, generally people who know how to and do present themselves well. That is important to the image of any customer business. Perhaps more important to an airline is a good work habits history, ability to speak another langage and most important, the ability to deal with a crises. What good is the appearance of an f/a if they flake out if there is turbulance, a medical emergency, in their dealings with abusive passangers.
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:33 am

Quoting B777A340Fan (Thread starter):
Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

If not you should be  devil 

Quoting Semsem (Reply 3):
I think that on US airlines physical appearance / personality is not a criteria like it is in other countries.



Quoting EasternSon (Reply 11):
I recently found a photo of my mother's graduating class from the stewardess school - circa 1966.

I was astounded at what I saw. Every single one of them was gorgeous.

What a pleasure it must've been to fly on Eastern Airlines in the late 1960's!

As a UM pax from the mid 1970's to the early 1980's and as a young adult in the mid to late 1980's, I noticed the stewardesses were quite pretty. The stewards were handsome.

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 12):
First off, with the exception of certain geographic regions, I would say that Americans as a whole aren't as good looking as Europeans or Asians. It might come across as discrimination, but Americans tend to be more overweight. So your selection pool is different, so even if the same standards were in place in all three places, you would still get more attractive flight attendants in certain parts of the world. However I do think that there is more bias than demographic differences alone.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are attractive ppl everywhere. You'll see them if you look hard enough.

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 14):
I generally don't care if the flight attendant is a stunner or not.

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Quoting Jwenting (Reply 15):
Competence and customer centric attitude are far more important than good looks.

agreed

Quoting Jammin (Reply 18):
Personality shines through a lot more than makeup does.

agreed

Quoting NYCAAer (Reply 27):
Sometimes I think AA goes out of its way to hire ugly people.

I flew on AA once. It was a red eye flight so I really didn't notice  biggrin 

Quoting MotorHussy (Reply 32):
Call me old fashioned, but I always like a bit of eye candy when I fly (I tend to not fly American airlines).

Eye candy is nice but I'd rather have a "plain" looking fa who's friendly than a foxy lady who's "too sexy for her shirt". Know what I mean.

Quoting Khobar (Reply 4):
I had heard some people talk about the superiority of European FA's. Lucky for me I was able to sample a few flights last month and was quite amused to see that the generalization here on a.net really is a myth - the BA flights I was on: scruffy, overweight, old, miserable looking. That is purely just my perception of looks. As for their personality, what little we were exposed to, they seemed okay.

Now the Virgin flights were very different. On the outbound, the FA's we had upstairs were young and full of life. On the return, the FA's we had upstairs were older (but definitely not old - I mean maybe 30 instead of 20) and while very pleasant, they were definitely more "experienced" - their personality seemed more practiced and less genuine, if you know what I mean.

Just out of curiosity who would you have as a f/a?:

Florence Henderson  yes 

or

Britney Spears  no 

Quoting Wunala (Reply 38):
I would much rather have a f/a who loved their job, than one who though was too pretty to do what they were paid to do.

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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:59 am

Looks is definitely key in Japan and other airlines around the region. You can teach safety procedures to anyone but you can't "teach" people to be good looking. Also in Asia the whole service mentality is based on hiring females. That's why you rarely see male flight attendents.
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:04 am

Last SAS flight I flew on most of the FA's looked as if they should be collecting their pension.

Probably were stunners back in the seventies.
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:22 am

I did not read all the replys, but have you seen some of the F/A's flying today...
GRANDMA'S. Get some younger girls, my god. I even told my ex-boss at another airline that they needed to change the company name to ELDERY AIRWAYS, because we had so many old ladies flying. She just laughed........
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:22 am

It is completely legal in the USA to discriminate against ugly people. Saying you are 4/10 on the hotness scale can probably qualify as a professional score, and could get you fired.

Age discrimination, religious discrimination are illegal. Ugly discrimination or idiot discrimination, are completely OK.

America has plenty of beautiful people. The problem is, FA is not the best job in America, unlike, say, Thailand. So the recruiting power of the industry is a bit limited.
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:45 am

Since when does a person's looks have anything to do with their capability to do their job? Sure, there is a perception value. But really... are beautiful people more able to evacuate a plane than an "ugly" one? People are so shallow and hung up on the visual aspect of everything in this country. What difference will it make when that gorgeous blonde can't open her door and you fry to a crisp? She might be cute, but can she operate the saftey equipment? Get your priorities right and you might live longer.
 
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:49 am

In the USA, that's is a BIG no.  Wink  Big grin
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:01 am

wow has anyone flown on any of the South American airlines? They have to be one of the hottest FA's around, particularly LAN and TAM...give it a try you won't be disappointed!
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RE: Do You Have To Be Good-looking To Become A FA?

Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:09 am

In Switzerland the employer doesn't have to tell the reason for not hiring someone. You just invite someone for an interview or whatever and then send a letter : We are sorry, you didn't match the criterias we were looking for. End of storry. That's why I'm wondering why isn't LX hiring way more attractive FA's ?

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