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Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:20 pm

Easyjet have announced an increase in their Airbus order of 52 A319 airframes, taking the total to 104 on order, after increased annual profits.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6145872.stm
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:31 pm

Good news for U2 and Airbus. I wonder what new routes will be introduced and if any of the new orders will be earmarked to establish new bases.

I hope that easyJet remembers this time to employ sufficient staff to man the aircraft when they are introduced in their fleet, so we do not see a repeat of all cancellations etc that besieged the airline earlier this year due to 'staff shortages'.
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:41 pm

That's a whole load of new metal. Good news for AB - anyone know if they are still doing the "sell plane instantly to leasing co" deal on these?
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:56 pm

With this recent order by Easyjet it brings the total of Airbus orders for November up to 58 frames.

So now we have the following:

ALAFCO 6x A320
Easyjet 52x A320

Total: 58 Frames.

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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:59 pm

Quoting WINGS (Reply 3):

So now we have the following:

ALAFCO 6x A320
Easyjet 52x A320

Total: 58 Frames.

Pakistans Airblue placed an order for 2 A320s yesterday (or rather, it was announced yesterday) with negotiations ongoing for a further 4.

http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...6_11_13_a320_pakistan_airblue.html

So thats 60, if these havent been counted elsewhere.
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:13 pm

Must not forget the extra 75 options placed for the a320.

Great news for airbus and Easy Jet!
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:05 pm

Airbus has done REALLY well with the 320 family past month,s  Smile
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:31 pm

I know there are -converted- options for 319s but people/reports seem to be switching arbitrarily from 'A319' to 'A320' for 'new' airframe options for Easyjet. Which is it? Has Easyjet ordered A320s[sic]?
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:40 pm

Quoting Voodoo (Reply 7):
I know there are -converted- options for 319s but people/reports seem to be switching arbitrarily from 'A319' to 'A320' for 'new' airframe options for Easyjet. Which is it? Has Easyjet ordered A320s[sic]?

No theyve ordered A319s, which are part of the A320 family - all Easyjet have announced about options at this time is that they have '75 options for the A320', which everyone assumes is any of the A320 family because the options held up to now have also been labelled as A320 options.
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:03 pm

Quoting SAS A340 (Reply 6):
Airbus has done REALLY well with the 320 family past month,s Smile

Yes, really a super-seller. Airbus needs to boost the production rate to something like 40 per month, IMHO. Producing more of them will compensate for losses (currently) made by the A380.

This also shows, when you have a good product, you can sell it for a very long time and make money with it.
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:21 pm

Can't confirm the A320 but remember the extra 75' are for A319's at the moment for delivery from 2012 onwards.

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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:04 pm

The beeb have made a mistake, it is 75 for the A320 family, not the A320.

www.easyjet.com/en/news
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:06 pm

Airbus needs some good news amidst the flurry of bad publicity lately.
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:02 pm

Hello All,

New possible routes show expansion to and from Athens (LGAV/ATH). I do not have a source for this yet, will post when I do. However, possible routes are from Geneva, Basel, and Paris to Athens. Also, there are negotiations going on with Athens Eleftherios Venizelos International Airport for U2 to make a Hub there. Would be GREAT to see that happen.

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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:07 pm

I can confirm that easyJet Switzerland (!) has received slots to operate a daily ORY-ATH flight.

Sounds strange but would be cool!

By the way, well done easyJet!  Smile

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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:17 pm

Great news for Airbus, but I think the bigger news here is the almost 60% increase in profits by EasyJet in the face of high fuel costs. Now that is impressive.
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:17 pm

So much for the doomsayers who a couple of months ago decided that the A32x had stopped selling.
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:24 pm

Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 15):
but I think the bigger news here is the almost 60% increase in profits by EasyJet in the face of high fuel costs. Now that is impressive.

They already have efficient airbus aircraft (in terms of fuel) within their fleet Big grin
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:27 pm

Quoting Baroque (Reply 16):
So much for the doomsayers who a couple of months ago decided that the A32x had stopped selling.

That's correct Baroque. Our good Mate Nav20 was one of those that firmly believed that due to the A380 delays, all of the Airbus portfolio would suffer from lack of orders and that production would dry up pretty soon

So Nav20 if you have the chance to browse the following numbers, you will clearly notice that your prediction was off by a long shot.

I also seriously believe that Airbus is still holding back some goodies.

Airbus Orders 2006

525 x A32X

Total WB and NB Orders: 566 frames


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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:29 pm

Quoting WINGS (Reply 18):

525 x A32X

Total WB and NB Orders: 566 frames

The first number looks fantastic, the second number not so much  Smile
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:32 pm

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 19):

The first number looks fantastic, the second number not so much

Plenty of Pending orders to be booked. With many of them for the A330/A340/A350 and A380.

If the A322F program goes forward this year, you can easily add 30 frames, which Aercap committed to at Farnborough.

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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:35 pm

What is most interesting to note is not only that Easyjet converted another batch of its 100 remaining purchase rights to firm orders, but that they've also signed for another 75 additional purchase rights, despite them having 48 left from the first order from the end of 2002!

This means Easyjet now holds purchase rights for a further 123 A319 aircraft on top of the 104 A319 which they have firmed, yet are not yet delivered to them! Combined with the 88 which have already been delivered, this means their total commitment to the A319 now stands at a grand total of 315!

When all planes will be delivered, Easyjet will by far be the biggest single A32F operator in the world.
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:12 am

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 2):
That's a whole load of new metal. Good news for AB - anyone know if they are still doing the "sell plane instantly to leasing co" deal on these?

Just so you know, this is referred to as a "leaseback arrangement."
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:01 am

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 21):
When all planes will be delivered, Easyjet will by far be the biggest single A32F operator in the world

I thought that, unless others catch them up. Clickair? United?
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:12 am

Ok lets set the facts straight:

easyJet have ordered another 52 A319s for delivery between 2008 and 2010 which is subject to share holder approval.

On top of that they have another 75 aircraft options with Airbus for delivery between 2012 and 2015.
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:34 am

Quoting WINGS (Reply 20):
If the A322F program goes forward this year, you can easily add 30 frames, which Aercap committed to at Farnborough.

Someone said on another thread that the A330/340 line is developing a bit of bottleneck and they don't want to launch the frieghter yet as the margins on frieghters is lower.

I wonder if the space left by the closure of the A300/310 line could be put to this use?
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:21 am

Does this mean U2 737-700s are on the outs?
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:17 am

Quoting Cloud4000 (Reply 26):
Does this mean U2 737-700s are on the outs?

Yes.

U2 will eventually be an entirely Airbus operation.

Does anyone else know any news or rumours of new routes?
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:24 am

Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 27):
Yes.

U2 will eventually be an entirely Airbus operation.

Does anyone else know any news or rumours of new routes?

I never quite understood why U2 sought to replace brand new 737NGs with A320s. What was the motivation here?
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:26 am

Quoting Baroque (Reply 16):
So much for the doomsayers who a couple of months ago decided that the A32x had stopped selling.

You don't even need to go back a couple of weeks to find some of these comments...


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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:31 am

Good news for SRTechnics aswell  Smile I wonder how they will cope with these additional 52 frames.
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:33 am

Great news! On the back of the A320 program Airbus should now try to sort out its long-haul programs!
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:26 am

Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 27):
Does anyone else know any news or rumours of new routes?

I was hoping for a LTN to either PFO or LCA but not any more as the chair of Cyprus Tourist Organisation said that they are talking to a number of LCCs to start flying to Cyprus but not to Easyjet who said that Cyprus still does not fit in their plans (possibly due to flying times).

Quoting N328KF (Reply 28):
I never quite understood why U2 sought to replace brand new 737NGs with A320s. What was the motivation here?

Finance and fleet modernisation I suppose.
Apart from the traditional (mostly USA) 737 operators, a lot of other airlines are giving up their B737 fleets and purchase A32X family aircraft. Some airlines like Easyjet and Aegean have gone for a full replacement programme. Others like LH still operate 737s along their newer A32X fleet until decisions are taken for further fleet renewal.

An exception would be ECA that had an A320 fleet (leased from CY) but have replaced that with B738s mostly for political reasons during the last CY group fleet renewal. CY remained with the all Airbus fleet with ECA leasing B738s.
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:31 am

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 32):
Finance and fleet modernisation I suppose.
Apart from the traditional (mostly USA) 737 operators, a lot of other airlines are giving up their B737 fleets and purchase A32X family aircraft. Some airlines like Easyjet and Aegean have gone for a full replacement programme. Others like LH still operate 737s along their newer A32X fleet until decisions are taken for further fleet renewal.

Financing, I can understand...but fleet modernization? They were fresh airframes. And the fact is that they had enough that commonality shouldn't have been that big of a deal, especially given easyJet's route structure.
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:37 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 33):
Financing, I can understand...but fleet modernization? They were fresh airframes. And the fact is that they had enough that commonality shouldn't have been that big of a deal, especially given easyJet's route structure.

Well, only guessing here.

It seems that the price per frame and the operation related economics gave a better saving compared to fleet commonality.

Quoting N328KF (Reply 33):
especially given easyJet's route structure.

I do not get this.
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:57 am

The only 32x operator that I know of dumping for 73x aircraft are NH. Of course it seams that Japanese airlines are joined at the hip to boeing for political reasons.

I do hope that airbus has 1 or 2 engineers not trying to figure out the 380 mess but also working on a 32x-advanced or replacement despite the huge amount of sales. I can bet you Boeing will be looking at 787 tech for the next narrow body line but I think this has been hashed out before!
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:48 am

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 32):
a lot of other airlines are giving up their B737 fleets and purchase A32X family aircraft.

- how many of them replace 737NG by 32X? There are many airlines that upgraded their fleets with A320 but never had 737NG (like LH or UA that did it when 737NG was not available yet, or BA that chose A320 over 737NG while never operating them before), but how many actually replaced 737NG by 320? Looks far from "a lot" - especially, as the opposite examples also took place.
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:59 am

Great for U2 as they are my preferred metal in Europe..... and very good for AB........

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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:06 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 28):
I never quite understood why U2 sought to replace brand new 737NGs with A320s. What was the motivation here?

If I'm not mistaken, EasyJet was going to add additional 737's to its fleet a few years back, but felt Boeing was asking too much for the new models. I remember reading on their (EJ's) website shortly after they ordered their first A320's that they refused to over-pay for the 737's and chose the Airbus instead. I also recall reading that other airlines such as Air Berlin, jetBlue, and Frontier preferred the 737 but chose the A320 for the same reasons...
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:59 am

Quoting RIX (Reply 36):
- how many of them replace 737NG by 32X? There are many airlines that upgraded their fleets with A320 but never had 737NG (like LH or UA that did it when 737NG was not available yet, or BA that chose A320 over 737NG while never operating them before), but how many actually replaced 737NG by 320? Looks far from "a lot" - especially, as the opposite examples also took place.

I know that those are Airbus numbers, but in
ScottsColumn071806

You can read that:
34 Airlines switched to A320
20 Airlines upgraded their fleet with A320
2 Airlines switched to 737NG
2 Tried the 737NG and went back to A320

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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:08 am

Quoting PennPal (Reply 38):
If I'm not mistaken, EasyJet was going to add additional 737's to its fleet a few years back, but felt Boeing was asking too much for the new models. I remember reading on their (EJ's) website shortly after they ordered their first A320's that they refused to over-pay for the 737's and chose the Airbus instead. I also recall reading that other airlines such as Air Berlin, jetBlue, and Frontier preferred the 737 but chose the A320 for the same reasons...

I was under the impression than the 737 were cheaper than the 320, specially after reading:

Quote:

Acquisition costs are lower for B737. Overall operating costs over the life of the airplane favors A320 significantly. This is all from negotiations involving A321/B737-900ER for a new airline.


from Av pools and preferences: A320 Vs. 737-800
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:55 am

Quoting Baroque (Reply 16):
So much for the doomsayers who a couple of months ago decided that the A32x had stopped selling.

Anyone who said that was nuts! The A32X series is a good airplane, just like the B737 series and the Douglas twinjets.
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:23 pm

Quoting Woosie (Reply 41):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 16):
So much for the doomsayers who a couple of months ago decided that the A32x had stopped selling.

Anyone who said that was nuts!

But unfortunately;

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 29):
You don't even need to go back a couple of weeks to find some of these comments...

....and now they're all running for cover yet there are more to come  Wink

Quoting WINGS (Reply 20):
Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 19):

The first number looks fantastic, the second number not so much

Plenty of Pending orders to be booked. With many of them for the A330/A340/A350 and A380.

Thank you Wings, to clarify on the "pending"

There are approximately 60 pending A330/A345 & A380 announced commitments which could be firmed and 40 publicly announced LoIs for the A350-XWB if launched this year. I include no potential A332F commitments if that project proceeds before year end. Plus, not 100% accurate 125 pending A32X series, not including this options exercise.

Airbus always book them strongly into year end and I see no reason as to why that should be any different this year as to any other except that just how many can they finalise prior to year end on the WB front given they await program launch.

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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:14 pm

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 32):
I was hoping for a LTN to either PFO or LCA but not any more as the chair of Cyprus Tourist Organisation said that they are talking to a number of LCCs to start flying to Cyprus but not to Easyjet who said that Cyprus still does not fit in their plans (possibly due to flying times).

They already fly LTN to SAW and LGW to RAK. The flying time can't be that much longer from LTN or LGW to PFO or LCA.

Maybe U2 could open a base at ATH and compete with CY from ATH to PFO and LCA?

I'd like to see U2 operate more UK domestic routes...
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:24 am

Quoting Jdevora (Reply 39):
34 Airlines switched to A320
20 Airlines upgraded their fleet with A320
2 Airlines switched to 737NG
2 Tried the 737NG and went back to A320

- Jdevora, thanks for the numbers. Still, I don't quite get the difference between the first two. If "20 upgraded" is from 737 Classic to 320, then does "34 switched" mean, from 737NG to 320? Would be interesting to get the list - with exact number of airframes replaced. Or does it include DC9/MD80/90? Then, there is still no answer on how many replaced 737NG by 320 against 320 replaced by 737NG...
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:30 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):
Airbus needs to boost the production rate to something like 40 per month, IMHO.

I think that would be completely impossible.

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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:50 am

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 45):
I think that would be completely impossible.

Why?

One of the comments made by Airbus Salesman John Leahy in Mr John Leahy Speaks Out About Airbus. (by WINGS Nov 15 2006 in Civil Aviation) is:

Quote:

"We're taking the production up to 34 a month [on the A320 narrow-body jet family]. We're looking at even going higher. No one's ever done that before.

Remember that we arent talking about one production line here, there are at the moment two independant Final Assembly Lines for the A320 family (Toulouse for the A320 and Hamberg for the A318, 19 and 21), and a third one being talked about in China.

I wouldnt be at all surprised if they squeezed more out of those production lines and took it well above 40 a month.
 
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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:54 am

Quoting RIX (Reply 44):
- Jdevora, thanks for the numbers. Still, I don't quite get the difference between the first two. If "20 upgraded" is from 737 Classic to 320, then does "34 switched" mean, from 737NG to 320? Would be interesting to get the list - with exact number of airframes replaced. Or does it include DC9/MD80/90? Then, there is still no answer on how many replaced 737NG by 320 against 320 replaced by 737NG...

My interpretation (keeping in mind the limits of my English skills) was that "34 Airlines switched to A320" meant that they got rid of the 737 and are only using A320s and with "20 Airlines upgraded their fleet with A320" they meant that they are still using the 737s but they introduced the A320 in their fleet.

The PDF that I linked has 2 columns with Airline names, one with 737 operators and the other with A320 ones , they don't mention any other types.

The only two times that they specifically mention the 737NG are in the 2 that went from A320 to 737NG and the other two that did the same but switched back to the A320s.

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RE: Easyjet Announces New Airbus Order

Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:55 pm

U2 have just announced the first new route for a while - EDI to MUC.

Are there anymore on the cards?
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