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Airlines/Apple Up To Offer Ipod Integration

Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:15 pm

Apple today announced it is teaming up with Air France, Continental, Delta, Emirates, KLM and United to deliver the first seamless integration between iPod and in-flight entertainment systems. These six airlines will begin offering their passengers iPod seat connections which power and charge their iPods during flight and allow the video content on their iPods to be viewed on the their seat back display....

In-flight iPod connectivity will be available to Air France, Continental, Delta, Emirates, KLM and United passengers beginning in mid-2007.

http://www.ipodnn.com/articles/06/11/14/ipod.airline.integration/

This is cool. It seems to me that what'll be availble is a USB port (a la Singapore airlines) that will recognize an attached ipod and allow access to the content and power the device. i wonder if Microsoft will uh encourage the airlines to allow access to their new Zune also (a la their encouragment to Universal music).

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Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:51 pm

This is awesome! I wish JetBlue would offer this. There are so many people that have an iPod and with our IFE, it would be awesome!
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:58 pm

cats outta the bag i guess! Knew about DL and AF, wasn't sure who the others were.
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:05 am

SWEEET!!  bigthumbsup   cloudnine 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:08 am

Very cool! Im tired of my ipod dying after a 3 hour flight and I have another city and segment to go  Sad
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:11 am

I think it's a nifty idea, but 1) I can already charge my iPod if there's a DC power port available, and 2) I think I'd prefer to watch my movies on my smaller, yet higher definition iPod screen than on a larger, blurry, fuzzy, lower definition IFE screen.

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Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:31 am

This is a very smart idea and a welcome development. I like to watch TV shows on my iPod when I travel, but currently need to bring a bulky external AA battery pack because otherwise the battery life is very poor. It would also be great to be able to use the seat-back screen--although the resolution of the iPod's screen is excellent, it is very small, and it can be hard to find a good viewing angle (I usually prop it up on the tray table using the external battery pack, which is a bit awkward).
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:44 am

Yeah, the iPod's video capability is the real winner here. You can have TV shows or movies (which ostensibly you could have copied onto the iPod yourself, or simply buy from iTunes) during a long trans-atlantic flight.
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:22 am

Microsoft is probably fuming: "what about our Zune player?"  biggrin 
 
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RE: Airlines/Apple Up To Offer Ipod Integration

Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:39 am

OK,

We now have a light weight IFE solution for the 380. Pull those wires and bring in Apple Computer for a iPod/Mac wireless IFE system.  Smile
 
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RE: Airlines/Apple Up To Offer Ipod Integration

Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:43 am

Quoting N231YE (Reply 8):
Microsoft is probably fuming: "what about our Zune player?"

I'm sure they're working on something with some airline to promote the Zune. Maybe it's JetBlue, as B6 has standardized on Microsoft everything for their IT needs... the whole company runs on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP.
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:46 am

iPod videos can sometimes be very "sensitive." Is it going to be good to be able to watch those on the in-seat IFE screens?

I know that they have pornography available in iPod video format....
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:52 am

I'm surprised it took the airlines this long to offer iPod data connector connections on airline seats, especially since they could have done this at least a year ago with the arrival of the 1G (first generation) iPod nano and 5G (fifth generation) regular iPod models that used the data connector back then.

Well, at least now we can listen to podcasts recorded on the iPod and not worry about running out of battery charge!  bigthumbsup 
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:03 am

All I need is a magsafe adapter now. I know Apple came out with their emPower adapter but it'd be nice just to have a magsafe adapter.
 
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RE: Airlines/Apple Up To Offer Ipod Integration

Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:22 am

Quoting Warreng24 (Reply 11):
iPod videos can sometimes be very "sensitive." Is it going to be good to be able to watch those on the in-seat IFE screens?

I know that they have pornography available in iPod video format....

As opposed to now when you can bring a porno mag on board or watch a porn on your laptop or portable DVD player? No difference.
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:34 am

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 12):
I'm surprised it took the airlines this long to offer iPod data connector connections on airline seats

FWIW iPod integration for automobiles is also relatively new. From the simple line-in jacks/power ports, to the more advanced systems that let you control the iPod from the stereo head-unit.
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RE: Airlines/Apple Up To Offer Ipod Integration

Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:45 am

MacRumors has a good conversation going on about this:

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/11/20061114093258.shtml

(click on the comments link)
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:47 am

Way to go, I knew when I read the topic that EK had something to do with it.
 
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RE: Airlines/Apple Up To Offer Ipod Integration

Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:56 am

Quoting N231YE (Reply 8):
Microsoft is probably fuming: "what about our Zune player?"

I am sure that it'll only be a software update- it's likely that it'll be integrated via an usb port and that the user will be responsible for the integratign cable (aka standard ipod usb cable)

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Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:31 am

Quoting FlyingDoctorWu (Reply 18):
am sure that it'll only be a software update- it's likely that it'll be integrated via an usb port and that the user will be responsible for the integratign cable (aka standard ipod usb cable)

I doubt it. The iPod plug is proprietary. Microsoft or its agents can't touch it.
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RE: Airlines/Apple Up To Offer Ipod Integration

Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:53 am

This is retarded. There's no reason they couldn't just implement it using USB mass storage standards, yet they insist on using a proprietary connector to one brand of music player.

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Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:59 am

I just hope its not like Itunes, everytime you open it up you get a message saying "A New Version of Itunes is available, would you like to download it "
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:05 am

Quoting Killjoy (Reply 20):
This is retarded. There's no reason they couldn't just implement it using USB mass storage standards, yet they insist on using a proprietary connector to one brand of music player.

I can't wait until Bridgestone pays Toyota to start requiring Bridgestone tires...

There are several reasons why your statement is unfounded. If they did it via USB, they would not able to control the iPod directly. They need to be able to do that because of FairPlay. The Zune would have the same issue with its Digital Rights Management (DRM) scheme. This is about more than just MP3 music where the player is just a big hard drive.

In this case, the big stick is video, and the movie and TV studios will require DRM. To do that requires that the integration be more than just a USB cable.
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:10 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 22):
There are several reasons why your statement is unfounded. If they did it via USB, they would not able to control the iPod directly. They need to be able to do that because of FairPlay. The Zune would have the same issue with its Digital Rights Management (DRM) scheme. This is about more than just MP3 music where the player is just a big hard drive.

In this case, the big stick is video, and the movie and TV studios will require DRM. To do that requires that the integration be more than just a USB cable.

Ah, so your solution would be to just leave everyone who doesn't use DRM behind? What a nice future we're heading for...
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:12 am

Quoting Killjoy (Reply 23):
Ah, so your solution would be to just leave everyone who doesn't use DRM behind? What a nice future we're heading for...

That is what the media companies and many artists indeed want.
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:13 am

Quoting Killjoy (Reply 23):
Ah, so your solution would be to just leave everyone who doesn't use DRM behind? What a nice future we're heading for...

I didn't advocate it as my solution. I simply illustrated why a simple USB connection isn't doable. And your discussion is outside of the scope of iPod integration and into that of digital rights management and copyright law, so how about we stick to the subject at hand?
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:20 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 25):
And your discussion is outside of the scope of iPod integration and into that of digital rights management and copyright law, so how about we stick to the subject at hand?

Ok, you're right. However, there's still another solution: Use a DVI connector instead. Any device, using DRM or not, could decode the video by itself and simply output the image. Power could still be supplied over USB, which would as a bonus also enable people to charge any other device.

There's no reason to design something around the most popular player just because it's the most popular one, and this is really not setting a good precedent. To get back on topic, even an iPod owner will not be happy if some airlines end up supporting Zune, some iPod, and some Sony (or whatever). It'll be a horrible mess for passengers, and you'll only get the service you could a fraction of the time.
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:36 am

Quoting Killjoy (Reply 26):
There's no reason to design something around the most popular player just because it's the most popular one, and this is really not setting a good precedent.

In part I think you have it backwards. It is not the airlines designing the systems to work exclusively w/ the iPod, but rather it is Apple that is designing and pushing systems that integrate the iPod into airline IFE systems. This is what they have been doing w/ various automobile manufacturers to provide iPod integration into OEM stereos. Given the market share that Apple currently enjoys with its portable audio device vs Sony/Toshiba/Creative/Microsoft et al, it makes it that much more attractive to airlines. Not to mention makes the iPod more attractive to future buyers.
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:43 am

Quoting Killjoy (Reply 26):
To get back on topic, even an iPod owner will not be happy if some airlines end up supporting Zune, some iPod, and some Sony (or whatever). It'll be a horrible mess for passengers, and you'll only get the service you could a fraction of the time.

With 70% market share, I see most airlines either supporting the iPod or nothing. Why support a manufacturer with 5-10% market penetration of such a market? Bearing in mind how many people on a 747-sized aircraft might have a music player, (for the sake of discussion, let's say it's 20%), then you're talking about 4-8 people. Why bother?

To answer your question about DVI -- the iPod connector is actually a lot simpler to integrate. Essentially, what the IFE integrators will care about will be RGB and audio...it'll be analog composite signals, plus the iPod control channel, all of which are on the standard iPod connector. Except for the control channel, they've been around for ages, and are easy to do. DVI requires that substantially more hardware in the IFE system, and that's assuming that the IFE system can decode the H.263 and MPEG-4 streams that come out of the iPod. By doing it this way, the iPod is doing all of the work.

Let me guess -- you encode your music in Ogg Vorbis.

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Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:46 am

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 10):
I'm sure they're working on something with some airline to promote the Zune. Maybe it's JetBlue, as B6 has standardized on Microsoft everything for their AND Irtysh-Avia (Kazakhstan)">IT needs... the whole company runs on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP.

Ummm... last time I checked, the iPod and iTunes worked with Windows XP. Can't say the reverse for Zune and their music marketplace. That stuff is just Windows based. Not exactly a democratic solution.

Quoting SirOmega (Reply 13):
All I need is a magsafe adapter now. I know Apple came out with their emPower adapter but it'd be nice just to have a magsafe adapter.

Do you mean a MagSafe adapter for the iPod, or MacBook? Apple just released one for the MacBook which features both emPower and traditional (American Airlines) cigarette-lighter style connector. Details here:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...pleStore?productLearnMore=MA598Z/A

Quoting Killjoy (Reply 20):
This is retarded. There's no reason they couldn't just implement it using USB mass storage standards, yet they insist on using a proprietary connector to one brand of music player.

Makes a LOT of sense when you consider that "one brand" of music player has captured roughly 75% of the market AND works with both Mac and Windows. How many other music players out there can boast that? Seems like going with the majority in this case serves just about everyone.
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:47 am

Does anyone know if Delta and Continental will offer this in all classes? United's press release said they would offer it in First and Business class only.
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:48 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 28):
To answer your question about DVI -- the iPod connector is actually a lot simpler to integrate. Essentially, what the IFE integrators will care about will be RGB and audio...it'll be analog composite signals. They've been around for ages, and are easy to do. DVI requires that substantially more hardware in the IFE system, and that's assuming that the IFE system can decode the H.263 and MPEG-4 streams that come out of the iPod. By doing it this way, the iPod is doing all of the work.

OK, so use VGA instead of DVI. And a standard display connector would most certainly not have the IFE system decoding anything except the video signal. You could connect a toaster decoding Ogg Theora and the system wouldn't blink.
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:52 am

Quoting Killjoy (Reply 31):
OK, so use VGA instead of DVI. And a standard display connector would most certainly not have the IFE system decoding anything except the video signal. You could connect a toaster decoding Ogg Theora and the system wouldn't blink.

Dude, VGA, DVI, what size devices do you think we're talking about here? The devices in question usually have a mini-phono plug for video--the iPod is the exception in that it has a larger device. Plus VGA is just as bad for requiring extra circuitry. Plus by using the iPod dock connector, the airlines allow users to browse their iPod's library using the IFE interface, rather than the device's interface. Try doing that with DVI or VGA.

These are not laptops...we're talking about simple devices where space is at a premium.

Anyhow, you're looking at this from the gadget freak perspective and not from the perspective of what will be the most widely accepted. The simple fact is that by supporting the iPod, the airlines have large instant audience that will be surprised when the stewardesses tell them that the device they already own can plug into the aircraft's systems.

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Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:52 am

Quoting Thebry (Reply 29):
Makes a LOT of sense when you consider that "one brand" of music player has captured roughly 75% of the market AND works with both Mac and Windows. How many other music players out there can boast that? Seems like going with the majority in this case serves just about everyone.

My point is that they wouldn't need to "support" any specific player if they just implemented some real standard instead. Then *everyone* could connect their players.

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 27):
In part I think you have it backwards. It is not the airlines designing the systems to work exclusively w/ the iPod, but rather it is Apple that is designing and pushing systems that integrate the iPod into airline IFE systems.

Unfortunately you're probably right.
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:03 am

Well, according to this press release, apparently at United it will be only be available for Business and First class customers:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061114/cgtu049.html?.v=74
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:24 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 19):

I doubt it. The iPod plug is proprietary. Microsoft or its agents can't touch it.

One end of the plug is proprietary. The other end is a USB connector.

So the question is whether the airlines will be offering a "dock connector" at the seat or merely a USB port connector.

If apple was smart it would be a "dock connector." For more compatibiltiy a USB port would be more ideal
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:29 am

Quoting FlyingDoctorwu (Reply 35):
One end of the plug is proprietary. The other end is a USB connector.

So the question is whether the airlines will be offering a "dock connector" at the seat or merely a USB port connector.

If apple was smart it would be a "dock connector." For more compatibiltiy a USB port would be more ideal

Since the announcement came from Apple, I would put money on it being a dock connector. And it has to be an iPod connector, since several articles mentioned being able to control an iPod via the IFE display, and see the video.

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Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:37 am

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 5):
I think it's a nifty idea, but 1) I can already charge my iPod if there's a DC power port available, and 2) I think I'd prefer to watch my movies on my smaller, yet higher definition iPod screen than on a larger, blurry, fuzzy, lower definition IFE screen.



Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 10):
the whole company runs on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP.

Who doesn't use Windows for thier busness. I know Mac O/S ois better but as with iPod windows is the popular choice.

Quoting Dartland (Reply 14):
Quoting Warreng24 (Reply 11):
iPod videos can sometimes be very "sensitive." Is it going to be good to be able to watch those on the in-seat IFE screens?

I know that they have pornography available in iPod video format....

As opposed to now when you can bring a porno mag on board or watch a porn on your laptop or portable DVD player? No difference.

I guess that if you are pround enough to watch a porno next to a mother and her 8 year old son then kudos too you

Quoting Killjoy (Reply 20):
This is retarded. There's no reason they couldn't just implement it using USB mass storage standards, yet they insist on using a proprietary connector to one brand of music player.
I bet you can name 10 people off of the top of your head with an iPod. Majority rules in America so that is the popular choice.

[quote=Worldsurfer,reply=21]I just hope its not like Itunes, everytime you open it up you get a message saying "A New Version of Itunes is available, would you like to download it "

I just updated mine last week
Here is DL's press release

Delta Air Lines Synchs Up with Apple to Offer Customers Amplified Entertainment Options at 30,000 Feet
iPod toting travelers set to access their favorite tunes and videos through Delta’s industry-leading, in-flight entertainment system
ATLANTA, Nov. 14, 2006 – Delta Air Lines is synching up with Apple to give air travelers even more entertainment options when they fly with new, in-flight iPod connectivity that will allow customers to listen to their complete music library, view their video content and keep their iPods charged – all on the airline’s state-of-the-art in-flight entertainment system that boasts industry-leading audio and video quality.

Delta is one of the first airlines to make in-flight iPod connectivity available to its customers beginning in mid-2007 and expects to equip its entire domestic transcontinental fleet with the audio/video integration plus charging functionality by 2008. This includes more than 100 Boeing 737-800, 757-200, 767-300 and 767-400 aircraft. Panasonic Avionics Corporation will provide all in-flight iPod offering integration services for the airline.

Apple’s iPod is one of the most popular digital music and portable video players in the world with more than 70 million units sold worldwide to current or potential Delta customers,” said Joanne Smith, Delta’s vice president of Marketing. “We’re thrilled to partner with Apple on our in-flight iPod integration for customers as we continue to completely reinvent the travel experience. This is just one of the many ways we’re providing air travelers with more of the entertainment options they prefer when they fly.”

This announcement follows the airline’s fall launch of a new, two-class domestic transcontinental product offering state-of-the-art, digital in-flight entertainment – with first-run and popular classic movies; live, satellite television; a wide-ranging selection of music and artists; and, a suite of video games – all available on demand at every passenger’s seat. By next week, Delta will complete the modification of all 48 of the former Song Boeing 757s into the airline’s new standard in domestic transcontinental flying that will be available to all passengers traveling on Delta flights over four hours (or more than 1,750 miles). This includes flights from Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport and New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport to cities including Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Salt Lake City, San Francisco, San Diego, and Seattle by 2008. This spring, Delta also began updating its international business-class offering, BusinessElite®, with a similar, industry-leading entertainment system on its current fleet of 75 aircraft flying international routes for completion by next summer.

Delta Air Lines (Other OTC: DALRQ) offers customers service to more destinations than any global airline with Delta and Delta Connection carrier service to 290 destinations in 46 countries. With more than 50 new international routes added in the last year, Delta is America’s fastest growing international airline and is a leader across the Atlantic with flights to 28 trans-Atlantic destinations. To Latin America and the Caribbean, Delta offers more than 400 weekly flights to 49 destinations. Delta's marketing alliances also allow customers to earn and redeem SkyMiles on more than 14,000 flights offered by SkyTeam and other partners. Delta is a founding member of SkyTeam, a global airline alliance that provides customers with extensive worldwide destinations, flights and services. Including its SkyTeam and worldwide codeshare partners, Delta offers flights to 445 worldwide destinations in 92 countries. Customers can check in for flights, print boarding passes and check flight status at delta.com.

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RE: Airlines/Apple Up To Offer Ipod Integration

Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:46 pm

This is great!

I had a feeling this was coming. iPods hold 70% marketshare but can't go much further without new products and new options. It is rumored that in the next few weeks or by January Apple will release a new iPod where the screen is also the menu. (based on patents filed by Apple last year and earlier this year). This iPod is the same as the current ones but the screen covers the entire surface.

What would be really nice is if you could actually buy songs, TV programs or movies via iTunes built into the PTV (connected via satellite...tooo bad connexion is gone). The only problem with this is that iTunes in only available in Japan, Australia, US, Canada and a bunch of European nations. It would have to be a special version...iTunes DFS?

How about seat-back iPod pouches?

As for the adapter issue. I think apple will push for the standard Apple adapter. Or airlines will just have a USB port and software in the seat back, you provide your own cable.

Though airlines might do this only in F and C, putting it in Y would not be such a big deal. Probably for UA, it has to deal with their current fleet. 777s...PTVs in all seats...744s Only up front. NWA could use something like this but probably will not have it till the DC9s are retired.
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RE: Airlines/Apple Up To Offer Ipod Integration

Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:49 pm

Quoting N328KF (Reply 36):
Since the announcement came from Apple, I would put money on it being a dock connector. And it has to be an iPod connector, since several articles mentioned being able to control an iPod via the IFE display, and see the video.

I think it will be the full dock connector, too. That connector has been around for a couple of years and is used by most recent iPod models except for the iPod Shuffle models.
 
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RE: Airlines/Apple Up To Offer Ipod Integration

Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:27 am

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 37):
Delta is one of the first airlines to make in-flight iPod connectivity available to its customers beginning in mid-2007 and expects to equip its entire domestic transcontinental fleet with the audio/video integration plus charging functionality by 2008. This includes more than 100 Boeing 737-800, 757-200, 767-300 and 767-400 aircraft. Panasonic Avionics Corporation will provide all in-flight iPod offering integration services for the airline.

I wonder if Delta will eventually put this on their international flights too? It seems when they reconfigure the 767-400s with PTVs they should just do this as well...then get the 777s later.

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