LRGT
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Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:11 pm

I friend of mine claims he bought an unlimited systemwide ticket on Eastern Airlines back in the 80's for a nominal price of $700 or $800, which is ironically less than my monthly commuter train pass which isn't even systemwide and only good for my 45 minute apart station pair! I guess you need to figure in inflation, but I kind of don't beleive him and I found nothing about it on here or Google.

If this is true, what were they thinking???!!!
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N231YE
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:19 pm

Well, back in the early 1980s, when Frank Lorenzo and his homeboys started New York Air, Eastern ran into a delimma. Its popular Shuttle service between the busy Baltimore-New York-Boston corridor, where a person could just walk on onboard an Eastern airplane and pay for his/her fair on the aircraft, was severly challenged by upstart New York Air. NY Air started a promotional $0.29 fare, so Eastern responded with discount coupons. NY air responded by accepting the Eastern coupons for free flights.

I believe this discount coupon may be what your friend is talking about.
 
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:52 pm

Quoting N231YE (Reply 1):
Well, back in the early 1980s, when Frank Lorenzo and his homeboys started New York Air, Eastern ran into a delimma. Its popular Shuttle service between the busy Baltimore-New York-Boston corridor, where a person could just walk on onboard an Eastern airplane and pay for his/her fair on the aircraft, was severly challenged by upstart New York Air. NY Air started a promotional $0.29 fare, so Eastern responded with discount coupons. NY air responded by accepting the Eastern coupons for free flights.

I believe this discount coupon may be what your friend is talking about.

Interesting... but he was talking about something completely different. Hey I wonder if they stopped taking fares on board because the f/a's took all the money like they do with booze on the airlines that still take cash on board  Wink  stirthepot 
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:14 pm

Didn't AA do something similar years ago. Sell lifetime first class tickets or something like that?? Makes some quick cash for airlines.

I seem to remember talk about that, not sure.
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:34 pm

They did indeed have a special fashioned after the Eurailpass. For a nominal charge, one could fly unlimited on the Wings Of Man. I'm not sure how long Eastern featured this and if they had many takers.
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:49 pm

I remember hearing about something similiar on EA back in the '80s, but it wasn't that simple. IIRC, it was a 'senior pass' for those over 55? or 60? and you could purchase a system-wide ticket good for the entire year. Not sure of the price, though.
 
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:49 pm

Visitors to the US could purchase Airpasses for use on a particular airline for about that price for 30-days unlimited systemwide travel on a stand-by basis.

The Delta Airpass was very popular - 3 friends did it - and iirc my old OAG timetable from 1988 has an ad for the same deal on USAir and others, but can't specifically remember if Eastern had that same deal.
 
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:57 pm

During the early 1980s, EA did have an unlimited fare, good for travel anywhere within the U.S., with travel having to be completed (IIRC) in a two or three week time period.

Tickets could be purchased from within the U.S., and the only rule was (apart from the time limit) you could not fly to the same city twice, except to change aircraft.
 
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:21 pm

EA did have such a program...

It was called "Eastern's Get up and Go Passport". I still have some brochures about it. The brochure looks like a passport and it has about 10 pages of information including the prices, routes allowed, rules and route map. There was a regular passenger version and a senior passenger version. It was last offered in 1990. $999 for unlimited travel. One of the rules was that you could only book the flight after 2100hrs the previous night for flights the following day on weekdays and after 2100hrs on Thursdays for weekends. If you worked at reservations (especially Miami) you could sit and read between calls after 6 because it would slow down but at 20:59 the lights on the phone system would light up like a christmas tree and suddenly there would be over one hundred calls waiting!
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:16 pm

Yes, EAL had their "Unlimited Mileage Fare"

See this New York Times article from 1981...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...9502EEDE1638F931A15752C1A967948260
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:59 pm

independence air had a similar program one summer for students. You bought an unlimited pass and you could fly standby on certain days like Tue, Wed, and Sundays. I'm not sure of the details though
 
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:29 pm

Quoting Zippyjet (Reply 4):
Wings Of Man

That changed to "We Earn Our Wings (Everyday?)" as the Wings of Man was sexist.

Shame that airline went down the crapper. Damn Frank Lorenzo and Charlie Bryant
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:42 am

Allegheny (or maybe it was USAir by then) had a copy cat one. For $849 you could get an unlimited 21 day itinerary. You had to book it all at once, it wasn't a pass. The only limitation is that you couldn't revisit any city (but you could do many connects through their hubs). I was doing a bit of academic research by interviewing in companies in the summer of 1985. That saved my budget. I covered SFO, IAH, GSO, MCO, ORD and BOS. I originated and terminated at SCE. But, I went home for the second weekend and rented a car at MDT.
 
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:17 am

Yup -- I remember a ticket that was available only to people purchasing it overseas (outside US). I had friends that came over from Europe in the very early 1980' s and for about $600 had unlimited travel privileges on EAL for an entire month (with some restrictions about when you could book, as noted above). Naturally -- with Eastern -- all roads led to Atlanta; so if you were in Seattle and wanted to go to LAX, you went to Atlanta first.
 
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:15 am

I used the fare a couple of times. The fare was valid for 3 weeks and, as mentioned above, the traveller was only allowed to stop in each city only once, other than to change planes. Living in California made for some interesting routing (LAX to SEA via ATL).
 
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:31 pm

Quoting Miamiair (Reply 11):
That changed to "We Earn Our Wings (Everyday?)" as the Wings of Man was sexist.

Shame that airline went down the crapper. Damn Frank Lorenzo and Charlie Bryant

Can't believe I forgot about the switch. Here's a little trivia for you.
Around 1990, a much downsized Eastern was recruiting for customer serive, ramp and flight attendants of course at fire sale bargain basement wages. Their brochure said something like: Eastern see our new navy blues

And regarding Lorenzo and the rest of his rogues,  checkmark  your sentiments are right on the money. One of the reasons, my skin sort of craws when merger mania is bantied about in our industry. We, the hard working crew members many a time end up Biting the pillow and taking our screwings!
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:54 pm

Quoting PRINAIR (Reply 8):
If you worked at reservations (especially Miami) you could sit and read between calls after 6 because it would slow down but at 20:59 the lights on the phone system would light up like a christmas tree and suddenly there would be over one hundred calls waiting!

You are bringing back fond memories of EA res... my user name is a hint.
 
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:08 pm

Quoting PRINAIR (Reply 8):
If you worked at reservations (especially Miami) you could sit and read between calls after 6 because it would slow down but at 20:59 the lights on the phone system would light up like a christmas tree and suddenly there would be over one hundred calls waiting!

You are bringing back fond memories of EA res... my user name is a hint.
 
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:00 am

Hello WDBRR...

Very fond memories for me too...

I worked for EA as a flight attendant, reservations agent (MIARR), counter agent...then for System One (International Help Desk and Training Department)...Later on for System One Amadeus and eventually for Amadeus USA (as a training specialist in Houston).

Those were fun days.
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RE: Did Eastern Really Have Unlimited Fares?

Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:45 am

When I joined this forum I almost picked the name "EALConnie." That was my first commercial flight (spring 1963, Shuttle, EWR-DCA, fare was $15).

My college room mate was from Bayonne. His mother would bake goodies for us and put them in a gym bag at Neward Shuttle luggage for Washington. She's then call us to say which flight we could retrieve it from. Fond memory, but couldn't do this today.

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