AlitaliaMD11
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Some CDG Connection Help

Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:43 am

It's been a while since I connected through CDG (not including last Friday's connection) and I need some help.

I flew from JFK to MAD via CDG on Thursday and ended up missing my connection to MAD due to Passport Control and connecting from 2E to 2F. I'm flying back on Saturday and would like very much not to miss my connection.

My AF1301 leaves MAD at 12:55 and arrives at CDG around 2:55 while my AF10 flight to JFK departs at 3:55.

Can I connect straight to the transfer bus which will take me to 2E or do I have to go through security/passport again?

Thanks!
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:49 pm

You can just hop the bus, though you'll have to go through security at 2E and there's at least a decent chance you'll wind up misconnecting.
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:19 pm

I'm very sorry you didn't make it. At least you were lucky that there's plenty of flights to MAD and probably didn't wait too long. I hope your return trip will be without any pb. I remember you asked in a post about the upper deck of the AF B747. Was it for this leg or for the return trip? Was it nice ?

For your return trip, here are some advice. You don't have to go through passport control arriving from MAD, but you'll have one at 2E to go to JFK (to leave the Schengen area). If you arrive at 2F and go to 2E, don't take any bus. It's really much quicker to walk and it will take you only 5 min from your arriving jetway. Follow the baggage claim/exit signs (as if you were ending your trip in Paris, but of course you don't have to collect your luggage), and when you leave the sterile zone, i.e. when you retrieve people waiting for arriving passenger, just take the underway just in front of you (follow the sign for 2E). 2E is 200 m ahead. Then, go upstairs, at the departure level and go through passport control and security. If your flight from MAD is on time, you should make it without pb. If it's delayed, they will wait for you at the exit of your flight to bring you directly to your connecting flight.
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:45 pm

What about the connection between DUS-CDG (departing/ arriving 2F) and CDG-HAV (departing/ arriving 2A)? Is it worthwhile to take the bus between the two terminals on the airside? Is there such a bus anyway, since it is a connection between Schengen and Non-Schengen? I have connected through Aérogare 2 quite a bit in recent years, but always on Schengen flights departing and arriving in 2D and 2F, so I am quite curious, what the best strategy will be for my flight to Cuba next year.  Smile
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marcus380
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:33 pm

Goldorak is right,

additionnally, you should try to get your boarding card to JFK, at MAD,
then speak to the FA in the plane arriving from MAD, and some attendant
could pick you up at your arrival and bring you at 2E with a special shuttle jsut before passport control.

by the way here is the plan 2E/2F, the walk through "la gallerie" is very quick:
http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/Adp/R...-4bc6-906c-ba0e8375f2b4-cdg2ef.pdf

hope you make it let us know !!

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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:46 am

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 3):
What about the connection between DUS-CDG (departing/ arriving 2F)

first, let me precise that you cannot be 100% sure to arrive at a certain terminal at CDG2 on AF which uses all the concourses of T2. By example, flights to DUS leaves from 2F, however, it is likely but not 100% sure that you will arrive at 2F arriving from DUS. In fact CDG2 is organized as schengen and non-shengen concourses :
2A, 2B, 2C, 2E and 2F2 are for non-schengen departures and arrivals
2D and 2F1 are schengen departures and arrivals
that is from DUS, you leave from 2F1 but you can arrive at either at 2D or at 2F1 and, by example, from JFK, you leave from 2E but you can arrive theoretically at 2A, 2B, 2C, 2E or 2F2

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 3):
What about the connection between DUS-CDG (departing/ arriving 2F) and CDG-HAV (departing/ arriving 2A)? Is it worthwhile to take the bus between the two terminals on the airside? Is there such a bus anyway, since it is a connection between Schengen and Non-Schengen?

so now to come back to your specific question, yes there's such a shuttle bus which operates outside the terminal (as if you were staying in Paris). As said before, from DUS you can arrive at 2D or 2F1. If you arrive at 2F1 and have to go to 2A, take the bus because the walk is quite long. If you arrive at 2D and go to 2A, it's better to walk using the underway wich is between 2D and the TGV station. It will bring you on the other side of the road between 2A and 2C.
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:11 am

Whatever my connection, I always walk through CDG 2 (unless an agent waits for me at the gate, but it is pretty rare). The wait for buses is usually too long, and it gets very crowded.

Also, 45mns is usually not feasible for a connection although they allow it. One should plan at the very least 1 hour, but 90-120mns should be even better ...

CDG is almost as bad as LHR for connections.
 
AlitaliaMD11
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:24 am

Thanks guys for the help...

I plan to check in online which should give me my boarding pass for my flight to JFK.

The only problem I have with taking the walkway over to 2E is that I don't particularly want to go through passport control again... although will I have to do this if I take the walk way?

And another option is to talk to the check-in person or FA and ask for a transfer vehicle to 2E?

Quoting Goldorak (Reply 2):
I remember you asked in a post about the upper deck of the AF B747. Was it for this leg or for the return trip? Was it nice ?

The 747-400 is on the way back, I'll let you know if I got the upper deck when I report back to say whether or not I made the connection.

Again, thanks for the help!

[Edited 2006-11-21 23:25:19]
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goldorak
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:07 am

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 7):
I plan to check in online which should give me my boarding pass for my flight to JFK.

you should have it even if you check in at MAD

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 7):
The only problem I have with taking the walkway over to 2E is that I don't particularly want to go through passport control again... although will I have to do this if I take the walk way?

whichever you walk or take the bus to 2E :
- you won't have passport control at 2F arriving from MAD because Spain and France are both part of the Schengen area
- you'll have a passport control at 2E to leave the Schengen area (JFK)

so taking the bus or not will not change anything regarding passport control. Walking will just save you some time

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 7):
And another option is to talk to the check-in person or FA and ask for a transfer vehicle to 2E?

they don't do that on demand (unfortunately  innocent  ) but just in case of delay
 
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:22 am

I was transferring from Terminal 1 to Terminal 2F the other day.. que pesadilla. It takes time.

Anyways, I see Goldorak has answered your questions very well. Best of luck on your travels and make sure that you have enough time next time you have to transfer between terminals at CDG.

I prefer 2 or 3 hours myself, just to be safe.  Smile

cheers

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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:58 am

Quoting Goldorak (Reply 5):
it's better to walk using the underway wich is between 2D and the TGV station

I guess you meant the underway between 2D and 2B? Going through the TGV station would be quite of an detour....?

Quoting Goldorak (Reply 8):
Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 7):And another option is to talk to the check-in person or FA and ask for a transfer vehicle to 2E?
they don't do that on demand (unfortunately    ) but just in case of delay

I'd be interested in this, too.... I usually connect between NUE and the US (or the other way around) through CDG.... so if my incoming flight is delayed (as it has happened in the past, and I missed a few flights... Sad ), can I do anything to get a transfer vehicle? I'm gonna be FB Gold soon, if that matters...
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:13 pm

The underpass connects the area between 2A and 2C to the area between 2B and 2D. The railway station is between 2C, 2D, 2E and 2F. There also is a corridor from 2E to 2F as mentioned by Goldorak.
 
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:17 pm

Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 11):
The underpass connects the area between 2A and 2C to the area between 2B and 2D. The railway station is between 2C, 2D, 2E and 2F. There also is a corridor from 2E to 2F as mentioned by Goldorak.

I am aware of that.... I just wanted to point out, that it was probably a typo of Goldorak when he suggested someone connecting from 2D to 2A should use the way through the railway station rather than the underpass between 2BD/2AC...
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:44 pm

Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 10):
guess you meant the underway between 2D and 2B? Going through the TGV station would be quite of an detour....?



Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 12):
I am aware of that.... I just wanted to point out, that it was probably a typo of Goldorak when he suggested someone connecting from 2D to 2A should use the way through the railway station rather than the underpass between 2BD/2AC...

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AlitaliaMD11
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:17 pm

So I'll be taking the walkway, that's what I did coming over actually. I couldn't find the bus anywhere.

I've transferred through CDG at least 8 times before in the past and surprisingly have always made my connection! I was very surprised this time, the passport control was a mad house!

Maybe it was easier because I was using 2C.

[Edited 2006-11-22 13:17:54]
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haggis79
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:24 am

Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 10):
Quoting Goldorak (Reply 8):Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 7):And another option is to talk to the check-in person or FA and ask for a transfer vehicle to 2E?
they don't do that on demand (unfortunately    ) but just in case of delay
I'd be interested in this, too.... I usually connect between NUE and the US (or the other way around) through CDG.... so if my incoming flight is delayed (as it has happened in the past, and I missed a few flights...  ), can I do anything to get a transfer vehicle? I'm gonna be FB Gold soon, if that matters...

no one who could give me an answer on that one...?
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:37 am

Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 15):
no one who could give me an answer on that one...?

I'm not an expert, since I live in Paris and therefore never connect through CDG.

However my experience from arriving at CDG on short haul flights is that if there are passengers arriving on a short haul flight and connecting to long haul, there is automatically help for you if the connection time is too short to go through the normal channels.

I have frequently arrived short haul at CDG and seen staff waiting at the aircraft with either cars or small bus for rush connections (remember that at present a lot of arrivals are not in contact with the terminal, which makes tranfers even more long); this is I believe arranged normally, and does not depend on your status, it is for everyone concerned. And as far as I know, you cannot request this, it is AF who decide.

This is just what I have noticed, maybe there are more experts on the forum, just thought this might help you.
 
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:38 am

Quoting DernierVirage (Reply 16):
This is just what I have noticed, maybe there are more experts on the forum, just thought this might help you.

Cher Dernier Virage, you are absolutely right and made a good summary. they don't do that on request of PAX whatever their FF status. It's just if the incoming flight is late with PAX with short connections
 
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:53 am

DernierVirage and Goldorak, thanks for your help  Wink
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:44 pm

Well I made my connection today!

My flight from Madrid reached the gate at 15:10 and Air France had made arrangements for the direct transfer to the gate, however we ended up going through the walkway and passport and security and then had to run down to E73. When we got to the gate boarding was still taking place.

And I did get the upper deck! 66 ABC.
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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:51 pm

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 19):
Well I made my connection today!

My flight from Madrid reached the gate at 15:10 and Air France had made arrangements for the direct transfer to the gate, however we ended up going through the walkway and passport and security and then had to run down to E73. When we got to the gate boarding was still taking place.

And I did get the upper deck! 66 ABC.

Alitalia,

that's cool !
did you ask the FA in the plane from Madrid to arrange that ?
I guess you already had your boarding card...
I hope you luggage follows..

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RE: Some CDG Connection Help

Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:57 am

Dear AlitaliaMD11
I'm glad you made it !! I booked a CDG-BKK in january on AF and was able to book the upper deck as I'm platinum. I love the quietness of this small cabin, the greater pitch and the PTV  bouncy 

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