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AA Seat Numbers

Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:08 pm

A little help from the AA folks out there . . .

I think the last time I flew AA was a 727 MIA-CUR in 1999. I found an excellent fare for this trip to 'Bama I have to take in June . . . so I just booked the trip - ANC-DFW-BHM and return.

I booked in F and found it curious that with few exceptions, the bulkhead row in F begins with row 2 or row 3.

Examples:

AAs 738s, the first row in F is row 3?

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ame...erican_Airlines_Boeing_737-800.php

AAs MD80s, the first row in F is row 3?
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ame...rlines/American_Airlines_MD-80.php

AAs 777s (version 2), the first row in F is row 2?
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ame...ican_Airlines_Boeing_777-200_P.php

But AAs 777s (version 1), the first row in F is row 1?
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ame...ican_Airlines_Boeing_777-200_A.php

Their A300s and 757s start with row 1 in front, but not the 767s - they start at row 2? Even the Saabs that fly with Eagle have a first row numbered row 3?

Can someone explain the logic/intent behind this? Does someone at AA have an aversion to the numeral "1"?
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RE: AA Seat Numbers

Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am

And what's more? Even though the 757 starts with row one in first, it skips rows seven and eight and starts with row nine in coach. I'n my ten years here I've not been able to figure it out. Hopefully someone out there knows.
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RE: AA Seat Numbers

Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:56 am

I would assume it gives AA flexibility to remove the galley/closet at the front of first and the bathroom/galley (in the case of the 757) between first and coach and not have to renumber the entire plane. (ie - the seats added between F anc C on the 757 would be rows 8 and 9)
 
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RE: AA Seat Numbers

Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:02 am

on the 762 they skip six rows from first to buisness and six from buisness to coach
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RE: AA Seat Numbers

Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:10 am

Quoting Uprightnlocked (Reply 2):
I would assume it gives AA flexibility to remove the galley/closet at the front of first and the bathroom/galley (in the case of the 757) between first and coach and not have to renumber the entire plane. (ie - the seats added between F anc C on the 757 would be rows 8 and 9)

That's exactly it. It's pretty obvious: if they reconfigure the fleet, then they won't have to renumber the entire plane.
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RE: AA Seat Numbers

Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:31 pm

Quoting 777STL (Reply 4):
That's exactly it. It's pretty obvious: if they reconfigure the fleet, then they won't have to renumber the entire plane.

Sounds good in theory, but in an MD80, with the first row in F beginning as row 3, where do you intend to put row 1 and 2, IF you remove the forward Lav and the aft section of the forward galley? Not room there even for Y 1 row of Y seats, much less 2 rows.

Quoting 777STL (Reply 4):
It's pretty obvious

Actually, it wasn't, hence the question. Based on my comment immediately above. And looking at seat maps and the actual aircraft, there isn't a hell of a lot of room between the front rows of F and the cockpit bulkhead to install too many seats - even changing the entire cabin to Y, removing the forward Lav on the Mad Dogs, or removing the closet and galley on the 738s.

It certainly doesn't answer the question of why the Saabs begin with row 3 . . . . how many more seat rows can one cram into that thing?



It's as good an answer as any however.

Thanks . . .
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RE: AA Seat Numbers

Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:15 pm

More confusing than this, I think, is that they letter their MD80 seats AB-DEF. I was on a flight from SJC to ORD with my family of 4. It was scheduled to be on an MD80, so we booked seats A, B, D, and F. Then they went and switched equipment to a 757. Now, 757s are cooler than MD80s, but middle seats still stink! Why not just go AC-DEF so that the positions line up across their narrowbody fleet?
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RE: AA Seat Numbers

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:50 pm

Quoting Qqflyboy (Reply 1):
And what's more? Even though the 757 starts with row one in first, it skips rows seven and eight and starts with row nine in coach. I'n my ten years here I've not been able to figure it out. Hopefully someone out there knows.

When we first took delivery of the 75's there were only 12 First Class seats, then a bulkhead and what we refered to as the "Twilight Zone, I believe it was 4 rows of coach. There wasn't a 9BC since there was a double jumpseat mounted on the wall at the L2 bulkhead.

I asked this question in Dallas a long time ago and they said they number it that way in case they decide to use the aircraft in an all coach layout they don't have to renumber the whole cabin.

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