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Jade Cargo: Maybe 6 Freighters More

Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:31 am

Jade Cargo, receiving its second 747-400ERF these days, might feel the need to aquire even more freighters than the 6 (all 744Fs) it has on order, according to an article on FI (online) of today.
 
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RE: Jade Cargo: Maybe 6 Freighters More

Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:34 am

Oh, so LH is adding some more Boeings to its Fleet.

Great to hear!

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RE: Jade Cargo: Maybe 6 Freighters More

Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:40 am

Guess this will be 747-8Fs then. Since there are no delivery slots anymore for -400Fs.
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RE: Jade Cargo: Maybe 6 Freighters More

Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:00 pm

Quoting NA (Thread starter):
Jade Cargo, receiving its second 747-400ERF these days, might feel the need to aquire even more freighters than the 6 (all 744Fs) it has on order, according to an article on FI (online) of today.

I was searching for the full story but could not find it. Can you give me the full link ?
Thanks !
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RE: Jade Cargo: Maybe 6 Freighters More

Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:41 pm

Quoting Columba (Reply 3):
I was searching for the full story but could not find it. Can you give me the full link ?

I don't have a link but on August 16th of this a report detailed some information on their purchase of the 744ERFs. It then went on to detail that the airline would most likely buy another 6 frames by 2010 though mainly for regional purposes;

Jade spent about $1.3 billion for six Boeing jumbo jets that will be delivered through November, $330 million of which will be paid by Lufthansa Cargo, the paper said. Another six planes may be ordered by 2010, although the order could be for smaller aircraft to serve routes within Asia, the paper said.

Sourced from a report carried on this site http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/orders/

No mention of the type but I feel they would not be using a 747 based variant for those purposes, if that is indeed, their intention.

A link to the FI article would be appreciated

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RE: Jade Cargo: Maybe 6 Freighters More

Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:29 pm

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 4):
Another six planes may be ordered by 2010, although the order could be for smaller aircraft to serve routes within Asia, the paper said.

First of thank you PanAm informative as always  Smile
Since LH Cargo is also considering the 777F it might be an option that they will order these as additional aircraft, also Airbus 332Fs seems likely if the aircraft are for routes within Asia only.
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RE: Jade Cargo: Maybe 6 Freighters More

Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:42 pm

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 4):
A link to the FI article would be appreciated


Here PanAm_DC10

Quote:
Its second 747-400ERF is due for delivery in November and the last of the remaining four on order in January 2008. It has also said it may look to add six more aircraft from 2009 or 2010.

Source: FI: KAL to launch Chinese cargo carrier

And here:

Quote:
Jade cargo plan

China's Jade Cargo International, which began operations on 5 August, may acquire six more aircraft as part of a fleet expansion. The airline's initial fleet plan comprised six Boeing 747-400ERFs, but another six aircraft could join the fleet from 2009 or 2010. No decision has been made on the type of aircraft to be added.

Source:
FI: Air Transport in brief

And something that might indicate what they won't operate in the future:

Quote:
That said, the 747-400ERF is a rather curious aircraft to use on intra-Asian routes. Lubecki insists it can be viable, but admits the airline originally planned to use A300-600s for regional routes, but was banned from wet-leasing them by the Chinese authorities. "It was always our intention to operate intercontinentally, but it would have been nice to have the intra-Asian network in place first," he says.

Soure: FI: Cargo special report: Gold rush in China

[Edited 2006-11-26 14:44:32]
 
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RE: Jade Cargo: Maybe 6 Freighters More

Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:06 pm

Quoting Columba (Reply 5):
First of thank you PanAm informative as always

You're welcome Columba and it's always nice to have a discussion on so many similar threads with you. Thank you for the update, I appreciate it.

Brendows Again, I thank you too for the links provided and appreciate the effort you put into your response.

Of note, I find the following of interest;

Why is it that KE & Sinotrans can use A300Fs as per link provided;

Around the same time, Korean Air announced it had picked former Chinese state forwarder Sinotrans as its partner in a joint venture airline to be set up in Tianjin in mid-2007. The carrier will initially operate with one 747-400 freighter leased from Korean, and two Airbus A300-600s for regional feeds

Whilst Jade appears to have to go for new build frames if they wish to establish a regional feed?

Lubecki insists it can be viable, but admits the airline originally planned to use A300-600s for regional routes, but was banned from wet-leasing them by the Chinese authorities.

 Confused

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