tjr16698
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Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday

Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:58 am

Dear all

I was walking accross the new North Terminal bridge at Gatwick yesterday for my flight to Pisa when I saw an incoming flight (didn't get chance to see which carrier) have to pull up pretty dramatically to avoid landing on the EK 777 to Dubai that moved onto the runway to start its takeoff.

Anyone know what happened?

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RE: Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday

Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:03 am

Happens about three or four times a day at LGW - no big deal.

More likely the EK 777 didnt get off quick enough and the incoming flight had to G/A. Happens all the time at LGW - its perfectly safe.
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RE: Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday

Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:45 am

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
Happens about three or four times a day at LGW - no big deal.

More likely the EK 777 didnt get off quick enough and the incoming flight had to G/A. Happens all the time at LGW - its perfectly safe.

I wouldn't say perfectly safe lol, Just kidding, Yes from my previous visits to LGW that does happen, Doesn't it make you wonder with LHR being busier and not far away.. How does LHR react to this.. They have planes landing i think its like every 55 - 60 secs... If there's a new pilot that doesn't recognise the airfield or misses the taxiway to exit and the next ones a far bit of way down.. The next aircraft would have to go around... At Heathrow with a holding delay would this go around aircraft get any priority or would he be put back into the hold at 8000 FT
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RE: Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday

Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:48 am

I was just at Gatwick yesterday as well. Easy Jet 5493 LGW-PRG. Saw the Emirates jet, didn't see this happen. About what time did it happen?
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RE: Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday

Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:06 am

Quoting SpeedBird203 (Reply 2):
If there's a new pilot that doesn't recognise the airfield or misses the taxiway to exit and the next ones a far bit of way down..

Heathrow is able to get away with the land after quite often... The schlep with LGW is the single runway ops and some of the pilots that fly into there aren't accustomed to high-density traffic...

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
More likely the EK 777

Maybe... Maybe not... It's difficult to say without being there... Maybe...
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RE: Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday

Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:27 pm

Quoting SpeedBird203 (Reply 2):
Doesn't it make you wonder with LHR being busier and not far away.. How does LHR react to this.. They have planes landing i think its like every 55 - 60 secs... If there's a new pilot that doesn't recognise the airfield or misses the taxiway to exit and the next ones a far bit of way down.. The next aircraft would have to go around... At Heathrow with a holding delay would this go around aircraft get any priority or would he be put back into the hold at 8000 FT

I was travelling on a VS A346 last week and approaching 27L at LHR. Seconds before touchdown (I could see Hatton Cross tube station and the maintenance hangars), the engines roared back into life and we were G/A. Apparently the previous landing aircraft had not yet vacated the runway. We did have priority to land and didn't go back into the holding pattern. We were on the ground less than 15 minutes later. Quite an experience!
 
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RE: Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday

Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:52 pm

Quoting SpeedBird203 (Reply 2):
At Heathrow with a holding delay would this go around aircraft get any priority or would he be put back into the hold at 8000 FT

This question has been clarified for us recently by ATC at LHR. We have been notified that we can expect a 40NM radar circuit after such an event which will take about 12 minutes, and in our case, about 800kg of fuel.

So, no it won't mean a climb back up to the hold, probably a climb to 4000ft and a radar circuit from the initial go-around track.

Quoting Tjr16698 (Thread starter):
have to pull up pretty dramatically to avoid landing on the EK 777 to Dubai that moved onto the runway to start its takeoff.

I'm sure that the crew would have been using standard go-around procedures, which for most types would involve the immediate application of go-around thrust, increasing pitch to about 15 degrees and selecting flaps to the appropriate position. The manouvre is designed to involve a minimum loss of altitude in a low visibility or bad weather scenario. As a result, it can & does look fairly dramatic from a bystanders point of view.

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
Happens about three or four times a day at LGW - no big deal.

Absolutely, the ATC boys/girls at LGW do a great job of squeezing the maximum capacity out of a single runway at a very busy international airport, I take my hat of to them. Just occasionally though, it does go wrong as there are lots of variables, and a go-around results.

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RE: Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday

Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:22 pm

Quoting 777STL (Reply 3):
I was just at Gatwick yesterday as well. Easy Jet 5493 LGW-PRG. Saw the Emirates jet, didn't see this happen. About what time did it happen?

It was at 13:50. I was watching the incoming flight approach, and then the EK 777 moved onto the runway and started rolling. The incoming pulled up when it was above the start of the runway. They were nowhere near collision but it was a little closer than comfortable.
 
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RE: Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday

Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:44 am

Thanks for that information... I thought they would have some priority... Let's hope everything goes nice and smooth for my arrival on Saturday... Although that would be an experience.
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RE: Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday

Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:50 am

Quoting Feroze (Reply 5):
G/A.

Could someone explain what this means?
 
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RE: Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday

Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:20 am

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 9):
Could someone explain what this means?

G/A = Go Around or Going Around maybe in the case of the original poster.
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Feroze
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RE: Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday

Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:30 pm

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 9):

Quoting Feroze (Reply 5):
G/A.

Could someone explain what this means?

Going Around. Apologies for the abbreviation.
 
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RE: Aborted Landing At LGW Yesterday

Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:38 pm

Fairly typical for things like this to happen at busy single runway or mixed operation airports (airports that alternate take offs and landings on the same runway), and occurs less frequently (but still occurs) at airports like LHR that run with one runway just landing and another dedicated to taking off.

I find them kind of fun, myself. You have no idea what a 757 can do until you have do a g/a fairly last minute.......
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