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New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:00 am

Hi All,

What do you all think of the new colours of Excel Airways?


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Personally I think there very modern and the tail design is exceptional, it's the best i've seen in a while. The front section could have had a bit more to it though and they could have expanded on the tail's design theme at the front.

All in all though, very nice!

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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:05 am

Is it Extra Large (XL) Airways or Excel Airways still? They could have actually put Excel on there if you ask me!

Apart from it looking like something somebody smoking cannabis drew up it's not too bad I guess. It's not boring and not too ghastly.

[Edited 2006-11-22 00:06:10]
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:19 am

Well for starters, I don't even see why Excels livery needed replacing. It isn't even that old is it?

I think the tail design is quite clever, and very detailed, but leaves the front and mid-section of the aircraft very bland.

As said before, the whole title of 'Excel Airways' should have been written, so it does not look so white and boring.

Perhaps the website could have gone on the engines?
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:32 am

Agreed with the above comments...

Firstly, I think the tail's really good.

But the fuselage? And the titles "XL"? Nah...
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:57 am

How original. A predominately white fuselage. I'm surprised other airlines haven't thought of this idea.
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:56 pm

While the white fuselage might be boring the lettering is done well and if applied to a different background would be better than the current scheme.
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:30 pm

Hi all

Unfortunately, most airlines seem to be going with the bland/white fuselage these days.

I do think this is one of the better scheme's to come along though.

Hopefully it shall be making a visit to Manchester in the near future and I'll see it up close.

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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:14 pm

Does anyone know what this a/c was doing in Las Vegas this past Friday?
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:08 pm

Will the 747s be painted with the "little" color the new scheme has?


Instead of putting some color on the fuselage or at least the rear of it, they put some weird waves in the tail, where it doesn't need it.
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:52 pm

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 8):
they put some weird waves in the tail, where it doesn't need it.

Good looking tail, nice colours, very visable brand but the rest is quite common 'eurowhity'. Very true what MIAMIx707 is writing, some waves are not necessary and disturbs the rest of the tail paint design.

The length position and size of the 'XL' on the fuselage is good although it could have been positioned a bit higher with the center of the 'X' in the heart of the window line. The position of the '.com' extension looks artificial.

P.s. Indeed XL is very well known as an abbreviation for 'extra large' and not as 'excel': advantage or disadvantage? Having such a short and easy to remember brand name is an advantage though. An additional 'Airlines' of 'Air' would have been better: XL Airlines or AirXL. Time will learn.

[Edited 2006-11-22 12:56:44]
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:04 pm

I've learnt from a source at Excel ops that it was rushed out of the paint shop and that the engines are going to change. If you haven't noticed they've remained the same as the old scheme.
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:08 pm

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 7):
Does anyone know what this a/c was doing in Las Vegas this past Friday?

Dont think it was AC Crownvic as this aircraft has been in the paintshop in SEN, but likely you saw one of the other XL units which is now over in the US operating for XTRA airways for the winter.

XL.com has just (in the last few minutes) switched to the new branding on their website too.
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:31 pm

Quite a good scheme, looks very fresh, love the tail!

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 2):
Well for starters, I don't even see why Excels livery needed replacing. It isn't even that old is it?

It wasn't that old, no, but I guess there are a few reasons for changing

Excel really seem to be trying to make a fresh start. The last couple of summers they have had some real problems, older aircraft being unreliable, passengers having flight times continually changed, flights being sold then cancelled and customer service soemtimes lacking. They do seem to want to change though, older aircraft are leaving the fleet and there are new A330s on the way which should improve things on long haul. More 738s coming as well.

Also Excel have been sold by the Avion group. All of which will tie in to the above, a fresh start. If you look on the new website there is even a section "The Future". Excel had a great reputation in their first couple of years, I think they want to go back to that.

Quoting 777FlyGuy (Reply 4):
How original. A predominately white fuselage. I'm surprised other airlines haven't thought of this idea.

While white is very common, in todays market where margins are so so small (especially in the ever declining British charter market), it makes sense, its the cheapest. There are also other issues, white is brilliant at reflecting heat, which when at 33,000ft is very useful and helps take work laod of the air conditioning systems.

Well done Excel, looks very smart!
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:42 pm

Quoting Jmc757 (Reply 12):

Saw one in BRS yesterday.It was a 737/8 with winglets,but sure it did'nt yet have the XL titles on it.
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:46 pm

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 10):
ve learnt from a source at Excel ops that it was rushed out of the paint shop and that the engines are going to change. If you haven't noticed they've remained the same as the old scheme.

Ahh thanks for clearing that up, I wondered why they were still pretty much untouched.

Quoting Jmc757 (Reply 12):
Also Excel have been sold by the Avion group.

Really? wow I must have had my head in the sand there, well that is great news for Excel since to be quite honest Avion didn't bring anything other than money to the airline. So does this mean the 747s are going back to Air Atlanta Icelandic (since EUK was merged into XLA)?

As far as the livery goes, I like the tail - the old one was good and this new one is actually quite imaginiative with the waves and shapes but the rest of the fueselage leaves a lot to be desired, the large titles don't do it on their own. Really they should have taken a shade of blue from the tale (the bottom one) and painted the fuse in that, then faded the XL titles into that and then had Excel (or Excel Airways) in normal titles over that.

A shame because the livery has much more potential and also because they seem to have dropped "Excel" completly and are swapping over to "Extra Large".

Still I hope that now they have been set free they will have a much better future ahead of them  Smile

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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:49 pm

Quoting PictureThis (Thread starter):
What do you all think of the new colours of Excel Airways?

I think its really smart, i don't think thats the livery finished with just yet, the engines look a bit plain, I heard it was a rush to get it out of the paint shop for promotional purposes yesterday. So you could see it getting a bit more done on that livery yet.

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 7):
Does anyone know what this a/c was doing in Las Vegas this past Friday?

They have leased a few aircraft to Miami Air, and a few to Xtra Airways for winter.

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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:31 pm

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 1):
Is it Extra Large (XL) Airways or Excel Airways still? They could have actually put Excel on there if you ask me!

This section on the website confirms no longer Excel, now just XL

Quoting Jmc757 (Reply 12):
If you look on the new website there is even a section "The Future".
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:35 pm

Quoting Jmc757 (Reply 12):
While white is very common, in todays market where margins are so so small (especially in the ever declining British charter market), it makes sense, its the cheapest. There are also other issues, white is brilliant at reflecting heat, which when at 33,000ft is very useful and helps take work laod of the air conditioning systems.

My post was sarcasm in the event no one got it. I'm well aware of the economics of white. I actually do like the logo although I saw nothing wrong with the old one. XL is an airline we don't see around these parts (BNA).
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:14 am

Quoting OwlEye (Reply 9):
An additional 'Airlines' of 'Air' would have been better: XL Airlines or AirXL. Time will learn.

Exactly, as it is those two billboard letters look more like an advertising for some weird "XL" company, and not the airline name.

I guess they're trying to go 'futuristic' with the name XL.. renaming themselves as a clothing size too common in America  Smile (usually the only size left whem I'm looking for a medium! grrr)

I thought the full name Excel was better.
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:08 am

Quoting Jmc757 (Reply 12):
More 738s coming as well.

Are they getting the ex Ajet/Helios planes? They are only 3-4 years old.
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:18 am

Dunno why but the big letters remind me of some TUI liveries.


I like it though, I think the tail is very nice and the blue and white looks very modern. I agree, and excel airways in the same font but smaller next to it would have been nice
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:18 am

I like the new colours i think they look modern and fresh although i prefer the old design im sure it will grow on me.

Will this re-branding include a new interior re-fit aswel? I know the inflight service will be changed slighty from next summer where all shorthaul flights will have pay for meals and more options to choose onboard just like most of the other UK charters.
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:21 am

I wonder how many people will be calling it Extra Large airways.. :P

Livery looks nice though.  Smile
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:06 am

sorry, but I find it REALLY ugly!!!
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:31 am

well LY777 if you're in France it will be coming to an A320 and A330 near you, as from now Star Airlines are XL Airways (france), so you'd better get used to it
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:37 am

Are XL getting the leased Finnair 757 back in next summer for their NCL ops, or will it be 2 x 738s + FJE 757?
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:57 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 10):
I've learnt from a source at Excel ops that it was rushed out of the paint shop and that the engines are going to change. If you haven't noticed they've remained the same as the old scheme.

That would certainly be nice...

... but I found this on the Star Airlines (sorry - XL France) website:



Interesting to note, also, that Star Airlines calls itself:
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:31 am

They had a rebrand party at LGW Hilton on Tuesday night.

Have to say, I really don't like it at all.

Can't see how it will translate onto the larger aircraft, 767/747.

Looks very amateurish to me. Sorry.
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:45 am

Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 14):
Really? wow I must have had my head in the sand there, well that is great news for Excel since to be quite honest Avion didn't bring anything other than money to the airline. So does this mean the 747s are going back to Air Atlanta Icelandic (since EUK was merged into XLA)?

Don't worry you didn't have your head in the sand, it was very very low key. Just a press release on Avion Group's website. That has sinced vanished as have nearly all the references to Excel. There is a story about it on Travel Mole if you search Google for "Excel airways sold" its on the second page. Can't post the link as it asks for a log in, but if you click from Google seems to work?!
 
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RE: New Excel Airways Colours...

Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:34 am

Quoting Jmc757 (Reply 28):
Don't worry you didn't have your head in the sand, it was very very low key. Just a press release on Avion Group's website. That has sinced vanished as have nearly all the references to Excel. There is a story about it on Travel Mole if you search Google for "Excel airways sold" its on the second page. Can't post the link as it asks for a log in, but if you click from Google seems to work?!

Thanks for that, and they have bought STAR of France? Well that could at least make a nice tie in with Air Transat  Wink

Quoting Jmc777 (Reply 27):
Can't see how it will translate onto the larger aircraft, 767/747.

Well the 767s could be getting replaced with those A330s just like the 757s should be on their way out with the 739ER. I wonder if they are going to try and offload those 747s though because of their somewhat knacked condition  Wink

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